tbutkovich

This is what Medicare for all (Politicians Excepted) will get you if the Democrats have their way if they pass a revised single payer health care or Medicare for All health care initiative. They almost ruined the healthcare system with Obamacare. They will destroy it with their planned initiatives. You will be subjected to the system but they won't. Go figure!

CANADIAN DOCTORS CRITICIZE OVERCROWDING IN EMERGENCY ROOMS, SAY PATIENTS WERE TREATED IN SUPPLY CLOSETS
BY K THOR JENSEN ON 1/15/20 AT 3:20 PM EST

Three doctors at a Nova Scotia hospital have spoken out about untenable conditions there, including emergency room overcrowding that is so bad patients are being treated in supply closets.

CBC News reported that Dr. Rob Miller, Dr. Rebecca Brewer and Dr. Keith MacCormick all spoke out about the situation at Valley Regional Hospital in Kentville to administrators a year ago, but no progress is being made.

They reported that on one day in March 2019, there were so many patients in the ER that spillovers had to be seen in closets and kitchens, where public safety was at risk.

The doctors requested an external review of the hospital to evaluate the emergency department's ability to cope with overcrowding, as well as the unit's leadership. That review was completed in November, but the doctors say that none of the specific recommendations brought up in it have been addressed.

Miller, who has worked in the hospital's emergency room for 14 years, told CBC "I mean, they're basically acting like there is no crisis and heavy handed, top down approaches don't work."

As a result, he says he will be leaving the hospital staff at the end of February. He says that McCormick plans to leave before then, and Brewer will take fewer shifts.

The emergency program's senior director, Dr. David Petrie, told CBC that the missing shifts will be covered, but moving forward staff will have to "work a little harder and a little longer and doing some extra weekends to make this work."

Overcrowding is a persistent problem in Canada's state-run healthcare system. Because health care needs, especially on the emergency room level, are fluid and difficult to predict, facilities can be overstaffed one night and understaffed the next.

In March, the Halifax Infirmary emergency room was so slammed that the nurses requested a Code Orange be called by administrators. That status is typically reserved for a mass casualty event, and would have allowed the hospital to delay surgeries and allow standby staff to be brought in.

The request was denied. That night, 42 patients left the hospital without being seen by a doctor, according to the CBC.

Emergency departments are often used to "warehouse" patients when other wards are overcrowded at hospitals, leading to a bottleneck in care.

According to the Canadian Association of Emergency Physicians, the root cause of hospital overcrowding is not inappropriate use of hospital services but rather the inability to t***sfer patients to other hospital departments for care in a timely manner. The group released a paper in 2013 stating that ER overcrowding has been an issue in the system for decades and looks to only get worse as populations grow.

Their recommendation was to institute a national benchmarking program to monitor wait times, time from intake to being placed in an in-patient bed and other metrics, as well as working to optimize bed management to more efficiently use hospital resources.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

How is that different than in our system?

https://emj.bmj.com/content/20/5/402

We just pay more to be crowded in ERs.

tbutkovich

It appears the Canadian hospitals problems are going to only get worse when the doctor's assigned to the emergency room decide to turn in their resignation.

The doctors will probably get visa's to emigrate to the US to get a job in a US Hospital. They need to be cautious if they make this choice because if the Democrats get elected, the healthcare system in the US will end up in the same condition as those in Canada.

If the Democrats get their way, the availability of Doctors, Quality of Care, Access to Qualified Medical Professionals will soon vanish and people will have to go to the local veterinarian for treatment..

tbutkovich

Could the overcrowding of our emergency rooms be caused in part by the estimated 24 million i*****l i*******ts that flooded our borders? That would add 10 Percent to the emergency casework. Another "problem created by the Democrats" with their push for open borders and efforts to delay construction of the border wall.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

One out of 6 folks in the US are i******s? Did not know that.

tbutkovich

More Statistics on Wait Times for Treatment:

Waiting for treatment has become a defining characteristic of Canadian health care. In order to document the lengthy queues for visits to specialists and for diagnostic and surgical procedures in the country, the Fraser Institute has—for over two decades—surveyed specialist physicians across 12 specialties and 10 provinces.

This edition of Waiting Your Turn indicates that, overall, waiting times for medically necessary treatment have in-creased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed report a median waiting time of 21.2 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of treatment—longer than the wait of 20.0 weeks reported in 2016. This year’s wait time—the longest ever recorded in this survey’s history—is 128% longer than in 1993, when it was just 9.3 weeks.

There is a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. Ontario reports the shortest total wait (15.4 weeks), while New Brunswick reports the longest (41.7 weeks). There is also a great deal of variation among specialties. Patients wait longest between a GP referral and orthopaedic surgery (41.7 weeks), while those waiting for medical oncology begin treatment in 3.2 weeks.

The total wait time that patients face can be examined in two consecutive segments.

From referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist. The waiting time in this segment increased from 9.4 weeks in 2016 to 10.2 weeks this year. This wait time is 177% longer than in 1993, when it was 3.7 weeks. The shortest waits for specialist consultations are in Ontario (6.7 weeks) while the longest occur in New Brunswick (26.6 weeks).
From the consultation with a specialist to the point at which the patient receives treatment. The waiting time in this segment increased from 10.6 weeks in 2016 to 10.9 weeks this year. This wait time is 95% longer than in 1993 when it was 5.6 weeks, and more than three weeks longer than what physicians consider to be clinically “reasonable” (7.2 weeks). The shortest specialist-to-treatment waits are found in Ontario (8.6 weeks), while the longest are in Manitoba (16.3 weeks).
It is estimated that, across the 10 provinces, the total number of procedures for which people are waiting in 2017 is 1,040,791. This means that, assuming that each person waits for only one procedure, 2.9% of Canadians are waiting for treatment in 2017. The proportion of the population waiting for treatment varies from a low of 1.7% in Quebec to a high of 5.7% in Nova Scotia. It is important to note that physicians report that only about 11.5% of their patients are on a waiting list because they requested a delay or postponement.

Patients also experience significant waiting times for various diagnostic technologies across the provinces. This year, Canadians could expect to wait 4.1 weeks for a computed tomography (CT) scan, 10.8 weeks for a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan, and 3.9 weeks for an ultrasound.

Research has repeatedly indicated that wait times for medically necessary treatment are not benign inconveniences. Wait times can, and do, have serious consequences such as increased pain, suffering, and mental anguish. In certain instances, they can also result in poorer medical outcomes—t***sforming potentially reversible illnesses or injuries into chronic, irreversible conditions, or even permanent disabilities. In many instances, patients may also have to forgo their wages while they wait for treatment, resulting in an economic cost to the individuals themselves and the economy in general.

The results of this year’s survey indicate that despite provincial strategies to reduce wait times and high levels of health expenditure, it is clear that patients in Canada continue to wait too long to receive medically necessary treatment.

tbutkovich

So don't be surprised if you go to the ER with a heart attack and they tell you take three aspirins and report back in three weeks for treatment.

American Vet

Multiple problems in the European versions as well.

tbutkovich

Problem with Government Controlled Medicare is basic economics, Economics 101, which is apparently not taught at Harvard where Elizabeth Warren obtained her degree!

The “Medicare For All System” will be controlled by the Government, paid for by the taxpayer, at a cost projected to be over $25 Trillion. The system will be based on price controls which are designed to keep costs under control. The price controls imposed on health care providers and drug companies will reduce the number of physicians, number of pharmaceutical companies, reduce the availability, quality of service and access. The effects of supply and demand with price controls imposed by a federally run program will have disastrous effects on our current healthcare system. Bernie Saunders claimed, in the debate this past week, that the cost of a federally run healthcare system would save money because the cost of the insurance industry would be removed. What he fails to recognize is that those lost insurance industry jobs would become federal administrative not for profit bureaucratic jobs! In other words, more government intrusion into our lives, more control, and fewer choices. Bernie Saunders and Elizabeth Warren, in spite of their attendance at our so-called most prestigious institutions, need to go back to school and take a course in basic economics! Honestly, I truly believe they know their bogus health care plan is a Trojan Horse, but in spite of this falsehood, they continue to campaign hard to convince the v****g public that they will be better off! The f**e campaign strategy continues with these two deceitful blabbermouths. After listening to the remarks by self made billionaire, I have to conclude that “Tom Steyer is equally as ignorant!”

The Democrat candidates campaign strategy consisting of impossible promises simply to acquire v**es continues!

tbutkovich

While in Ottawa, I read an article in the local newspaper, that a woman’s husband suffered a heart attack and needed urgent surgery. The patient was wait listed three weeks before he could be scheduled for surgery. The women took the matter into her own hands and had her husband t***sported to Henry Ford Hospital, in Dearborn Michigan, for immediate surgery. They did heart bypass surgery and saved his life. He was able to return to work in three weeks.

I do not know the wife’s, personal situation, but suppose she was a normal housewife without a college education, and her husband a professional. Suppose he were to not had the critical procedure, waited for surgery and died. For that wife and her children, such an outcome would be a life changing experience. For those who think access isn’t important, think again!

America has the best healthcare system in the world, and in spite of its higher cost, when it becomes a matter of life or death, it is well worth the higher price!