I couldn’t say it better than this...
remember to pull up all those old archives of past about my predictions for this and other things coming...
Most of you still have no clue who or what you’re really dealing with, but you’re about to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: Bob Livingston Alerts
In my article 'Trump Impeachment And The Civil War Scenario', I warned that conservatives and l*****ts are being pushed to the brink of a shooting war using various methods of social manipulation and 4th Gen warfare, and that this conflict, if dictated by Left/Right politics, would only benefit establishment elites in the long run. Internal division among the public is designed to keep us at each other's throats while losing focus on the real enemies.
Hard line democrats and the social justice cult are merely a symptom of the disease, they are not the source of the disease. However, I also acknowledge that the rift between conservatives and the political left has become so extreme that reconciliation is almost impossible. War might be unavoidable, and the g*******ts love it. If they can pretend like they had nothing to do with creating tensions, and if conservatives are so blinded by anger against Democrats that they refuse to admit that some of their own political leaders (including Trump) have been co-opted, the elites win.
The danger in any civil war is that both sides end up being manipulated and controlled, and that the situation is maneuvered toward an outcome that only serves the interests of a select few elites.
Virginia may be a test bed, a trial run for a nationwide conf**gration, and if it does hit a point where state officials compel a violent response from the citizenry, then it is important that liberty advocates remain vigilant and steer clear of incompetent or controlled leaders. It is also important that they remember there is a much larger agenda at play here; the Democrats may be useful i***ts fueling that agenda, but most of them are oblivious to their role. Our fight is not with the Democrats, our fight is with the g*******ts that influence them; the same g*******ts that are trying to influence us.
Claim Your 'Trump Check' Before the Next Batch is Sent
President Trump's secret order just cleared the way for you to receive fat checks like $2,493... $4,112... and even $6,383. And the next batch is about to be sent out. You could rake in these checks month after month! So if you haven't gotten your first check yet, get your name on the list now before the next batch goes out!
The current situation in Virginia remains a battle of political rhetoric and "fluid" interpretations of the law. Here are the arguments I've seen from the political left so far on the issue of 2nd Amendment Sanctuaries:
L*****ts argue that sanctuary county resolutions are "purely symbolic" and have no force of law behind them.
This is a rather naive (perhaps deliberately naive) position, as it ignores the fundamentals. The force of law is either compelled by conscience, or it is compelled by violence. The law itself is meaningless without these two factors. If groups of citizens choose not to follow a law because they find it morally reprehensible, there is nothing the state can do except try to frighten them into compliance with the threat of violence. The concept of a law by itself has no energy, and claiming that something is "right" because it is now "law" is not a valid argument.
In the case of anti-gun laws in Virginia, the vast majority of counties in the state and the people in those counties have made it clear that they will not comply. The l*****ts have completely ignored this fact by simply saying "They have to comply because the law says so..." This is the type of attitude that leads to war.
L*****ts argue that state laws supersede county authority and there is no legal standing for sanctuary resolutions.
The problem with this argument is that it ignores the fact that constitutional protections provided by the Bill of Rights supersede all other laws. It does not matter if attempts are being made by state governments or the federal government to degrade constitutional rights, the people are empowered to refuse and fight against any laws which violate constitutional laws.
For example, Democrats often bring up the history of Jim Crow Laws as a rationale for Federal intervention in the legal affairs of states. Jim Crow laws were segregation laws passed by state government, and in many cases there was resistance on a public level to these laws. Democrats like to cite Jim Crow laws whenever conservatives argue for states rights and 10th Amendment nullification of unconstitutional federal laws. They have conveniently memory-holed the issue whenever state laws are working in favor of their agenda.
The bottom line is this: The constitution takes precedence over all other law, and if Democrats are going to use legal technicality as their foundation for draconian gun control measures, then they really have no leg to stand on. If their argument is that citizens and counties have no legal right to nullify state laws no matter how immoral or unconstitutional, then what would they say if a state government brought back Jim Crow, or legalized s***ery? Virginia's gun control efforts are no different.
L*****ts assert that new laws are "standard" because similar laws have been passed in other states.
This is the totalitarian tiptoe at work. Once an unconstitutional law is passed in California, New York or Illinois, this therefore means that the laws have become "standard" and are thus acceptable. An unconstitutional law is an unconstitutional law. It does not matter how many states pass such a law and proclaim it normal or standard. The people of Virginia have announced in mass that they have no intention of following new gun control laws. The people have spoken, over 90 percent of counties in Virginia have passed 2nd Amendment resolutions with the support of the citizenry. Democrats gaining seats in an e******n does not give them the power to deny constitutional rights to Virginians.
Beyond this, the Virginia laws are nowhere near standard. Clearly, Virginia is being used as a testing ground for Red F**g laws, which are the most concerning. Red F**g laws allow gun confiscation without due process based on ambiguous accusations; it is prosecution and punishment without representation or defense. Red F**g gun laws are a means by which the state can violate your rights while circumventing due process.
The numerous laws Virginia's government hopes to implement set the stage for the incremental removal of all gun rights. They are pushing the envelope to see how far they can move the boundary of what is "standard" when it comes to anti-gun laws. The people of Virginia know this is the agenda. It has always been the l*****t agenda (not to mention a g*******t agenda) to seek out total disarmament of the population. This is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.
L*****ts argue that law enforcement authorities that refuse to enforce new gun laws risk losing their "official immunity."
I'm not sure that "official immunity" has anything to do with the enforcement of gun laws; it is meant to protect LEOs from civil litigation while conducting normal ministerial duties. This sounds more like an a thinly veiled threat against county officials and law enforcement who refuse to comply. It is also an empty threat.
County officials cannot be compelled by the state to actively enforce gun control laws, nor can the state force a county to set aside funds for such an effort. In the case of county sheriffs, these are officials elected by the people of the county, and they answer to the those people, not the state government. County officials can be punished for breaking the law, but they cannot be punished for not enforcing the law to the arbitrary degree that the state sees as acceptable.
L*****ts are pursuing other avenues to enforce new gun laws.
The state government has threatened the use of the National Guard to force counties to comply. They have also sought to form a gun control "task force," essentially a goon squad, which would be used as a weapon to enter into sanctuary counties and enforce the law by circumventing local law enforcement, much like the federal government used the FBI or ATF to circumvent state authorities when it pleases them. I would suggest to the government of Virginia that these actions are a detrimental mistake.
The National Guard of Virginia is made up of the citizens of Virginia, and many of these people may not comply either. If they do, or if the state establishes an enforcement arm to target individual citizens to make examples out of them, the most likely outcome is that people will defend themselves and their constitutional rights. People on both sides might be hurt in the process.
The question then arises: Are these laws worth dying for? I can say with some authority that the majority of conservatives are willing to risk death to protect their rights. Are state authorities willing to risk death to enforce unconstitutional laws? Because this is where the situation is headed...
L*****ts assume this is all about Virginia.
Conservatives don't see it that way. A conflict in Virginia will likely attract thousands of people from outside the state, because the view will be that the line is being drawn there.
Now, it's important for conservatives, especially those that actually live in Virginia, to understand that there will be con men and shysters who will show up out of nowhere and try to exploit the situation to elevate their own careers or public image. They will try to make as much money as they can while shamelessly self-promoting. They will pretend to help while offering substandard advice and substandard training. And if the manure hits the fan, these guys will suddenly disappear as quickly as they arrived.
There will also be people who will try to steer the conflict toward a left vs right paradigm, as I noted earlier. Sanctuary counties should maintain local leadership and local representation in these matters to avoid being manipulated. If people outside the state want to help, then they should be fine with doing this under the supervision and management of the locals.
The best possible scenario would be that the state government of Virginia realizes that it's not worth it to try to enforce unconstitutional gun laws, and that the risks are far too high to manage. They would abandon such endeavors and recognize that counties will not comply even if they try to apply leverage to them.
The worst-case scenario is that this is an establishment beta test for the rest of the country, and that they may want to start a conflict, in the hopes that this will spread into a national civil war. If this is the case, and a wider conflict is triggered, conservatives must not lose sight of the bigger picture. The g*******ts should be the focus of our ire; the democrats are being used. A conflict based only on political division will mean defeat for us all, and a win for the elites.
To t***h and knowledge,
By: Brandon Smith
Sicilianthing wrote:
I couldn’t say it better than this...
remember to pull up all those old archives of past about my predictions for this and other things coming...
Most of you still have no clue who or what you’re really dealing with, but you’re about to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: Bob Livingston Alerts
In my article 'Trump Impeachment And The Civil War Scenario', I warned that conservatives and l*****ts are being pushed to the brink of a shooting war using various methods of social manipulation and 4th Gen warfare, and that this conflict, if dictated by Left/Right politics, would only benefit establishment elites in the long run. Internal division among the public is designed to keep us at each other's throats while losing focus on the real enemies.
Hard line democrats and the social justice cult are merely a symptom of the disease, they are not the source of the disease. However, I also acknowledge that the rift between conservatives and the political left has become so extreme that reconciliation is almost impossible. War might be unavoidable, and the g*******ts love it. If they can pretend like they had nothing to do with creating tensions, and if conservatives are so blinded by anger against Democrats that they refuse to admit that some of their own political leaders (including Trump) have been co-opted, the elites win.
The danger in any civil war is that both sides end up being manipulated and controlled, and that the situation is maneuvered toward an outcome that only serves the interests of a select few elites.
Virginia may be a test bed, a trial run for a nationwide conf**gration, and if it does hit a point where state officials compel a violent response from the citizenry, then it is important that liberty advocates remain vigilant and steer clear of incompetent or controlled leaders. It is also important that they remember there is a much larger agenda at play here; the Democrats may be useful i***ts fueling that agenda, but most of them are oblivious to their role. Our fight is not with the Democrats, our fight is with the g*******ts that influence them; the same g*******ts that are trying to influence us.
Claim Your 'Trump Check' Before the Next Batch is Sent
President Trump's secret order just cleared the way for you to receive fat checks like $2,493... $4,112... and even $6,383. And the next batch is about to be sent out. You could rake in these checks month after month! So if you haven't gotten your first check yet, get your name on the list now before the next batch goes out!
The current situation in Virginia remains a battle of political rhetoric and "fluid" interpretations of the law. Here are the arguments I've seen from the political left so far on the issue of 2nd Amendment Sanctuaries:
L*****ts argue that sanctuary county resolutions are "purely symbolic" and have no force of law behind them.
This is a rather naive (perhaps deliberately naive) position, as it ignores the fundamentals. The force of law is either compelled by conscience, or it is compelled by violence. The law itself is meaningless without these two factors. If groups of citizens choose not to follow a law because they find it morally reprehensible, there is nothing the state can do except try to frighten them into compliance with the threat of violence. The concept of a law by itself has no energy, and claiming that something is "right" because it is now "law" is not a valid argument.
In the case of anti-gun laws in Virginia, the vast majority of counties in the state and the people in those counties have made it clear that they will not comply. The l*****ts have completely ignored this fact by simply saying "They have to comply because the law says so..." This is the type of attitude that leads to war.
L*****ts argue that state laws supersede county authority and there is no legal standing for sanctuary resolutions.
The problem with this argument is that it ignores the fact that constitutional protections provided by the Bill of Rights supersede all other laws. It does not matter if attempts are being made by state governments or the federal government to degrade constitutional rights, the people are empowered to refuse and fight against any laws which violate constitutional laws.
For example, Democrats often bring up the history of Jim Crow Laws as a rationale for Federal intervention in the legal affairs of states. Jim Crow laws were segregation laws passed by state government, and in many cases there was resistance on a public level to these laws. Democrats like to cite Jim Crow laws whenever conservatives argue for states rights and 10th Amendment nullification of unconstitutional federal laws. They have conveniently memory-holed the issue whenever state laws are working in favor of their agenda.
The bottom line is this: The constitution takes precedence over all other law, and if Democrats are going to use legal technicality as their foundation for draconian gun control measures, then they really have no leg to stand on. If their argument is that citizens and counties have no legal right to nullify state laws no matter how immoral or unconstitutional, then what would they say if a state government brought back Jim Crow, or legalized s***ery? Virginia's gun control efforts are no different.
L*****ts assert that new laws are "standard" because similar laws have been passed in other states.
This is the totalitarian tiptoe at work. Once an unconstitutional law is passed in California, New York or Illinois, this therefore means that the laws have become "standard" and are thus acceptable. An unconstitutional law is an unconstitutional law. It does not matter how many states pass such a law and proclaim it normal or standard. The people of Virginia have announced in mass that they have no intention of following new gun control laws. The people have spoken, over 90 percent of counties in Virginia have passed 2nd Amendment resolutions with the support of the citizenry. Democrats gaining seats in an e******n does not give them the power to deny constitutional rights to Virginians.
Beyond this, the Virginia laws are nowhere near standard. Clearly, Virginia is being used as a testing ground for Red F**g laws, which are the most concerning. Red F**g laws allow gun confiscation without due process based on ambiguous accusations; it is prosecution and punishment without representation or defense. Red F**g gun laws are a means by which the state can violate your rights while circumventing due process.
The numerous laws Virginia's government hopes to implement set the stage for the incremental removal of all gun rights. They are pushing the envelope to see how far they can move the boundary of what is "standard" when it comes to anti-gun laws. The people of Virginia know this is the agenda. It has always been the l*****t agenda (not to mention a g*******t agenda) to seek out total disarmament of the population. This is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.
L*****ts argue that law enforcement authorities that refuse to enforce new gun laws risk losing their "official immunity."
I'm not sure that "official immunity" has anything to do with the enforcement of gun laws; it is meant to protect LEOs from civil litigation while conducting normal ministerial duties. This sounds more like an a thinly veiled threat against county officials and law enforcement who refuse to comply. It is also an empty threat.
County officials cannot be compelled by the state to actively enforce gun control laws, nor can the state force a county to set aside funds for such an effort. In the case of county sheriffs, these are officials elected by the people of the county, and they answer to the those people, not the state government. County officials can be punished for breaking the law, but they cannot be punished for not enforcing the law to the arbitrary degree that the state sees as acceptable.
L*****ts are pursuing other avenues to enforce new gun laws.
The state government has threatened the use of the National Guard to force counties to comply. They have also sought to form a gun control "task force," essentially a goon squad, which would be used as a weapon to enter into sanctuary counties and enforce the law by circumventing local law enforcement, much like the federal government used the FBI or ATF to circumvent state authorities when it pleases them. I would suggest to the government of Virginia that these actions are a detrimental mistake.
The National Guard of Virginia is made up of the citizens of Virginia, and many of these people may not comply either. If they do, or if the state establishes an enforcement arm to target individual citizens to make examples out of them, the most likely outcome is that people will defend themselves and their constitutional rights. People on both sides might be hurt in the process.
The question then arises: Are these laws worth dying for? I can say with some authority that the majority of conservatives are willing to risk death to protect their rights. Are state authorities willing to risk death to enforce unconstitutional laws? Because this is where the situation is headed...
L*****ts assume this is all about Virginia.
Conservatives don't see it that way. A conflict in Virginia will likely attract thousands of people from outside the state, because the view will be that the line is being drawn there.
Now, it's important for conservatives, especially those that actually live in Virginia, to understand that there will be con men and shysters who will show up out of nowhere and try to exploit the situation to elevate their own careers or public image. They will try to make as much money as they can while shamelessly self-promoting. They will pretend to help while offering substandard advice and substandard training. And if the manure hits the fan, these guys will suddenly disappear as quickly as they arrived.
There will also be people who will try to steer the conflict toward a left vs right paradigm, as I noted earlier. Sanctuary counties should maintain local leadership and local representation in these matters to avoid being manipulated. If people outside the state want to help, then they should be fine with doing this under the supervision and management of the locals.
The best possible scenario would be that the state government of Virginia realizes that it's not worth it to try to enforce unconstitutional gun laws, and that the risks are far too high to manage. They would abandon such endeavors and recognize that counties will not comply even if they try to apply leverage to them.
The worst-case scenario is that this is an establishment beta test for the rest of the country, and that they may want to start a conflict, in the hopes that this will spread into a national civil war. If this is the case, and a wider conflict is triggered, conservatives must not lose sight of the bigger picture. The g*******ts should be the focus of our ire; the democrats are being used. A conflict based only on political division will mean defeat for us all, and a win for the elites.
To t***h and knowledge,
By: Brandon Smith
I couldn’t say it better than this... br remember... (
show quote)
One more time. This whole circus could have been avoided had Republicans, (who outnumber Democrats in Virginia) gotten off their asses and v**ed. Personally, I find the whole idea of this seeming statewide outrage ludicrous because of that. As a Conservative, I doubt that the prospect of an armed revolution being prosecuted by people too lazy to v**e has Nancy boy Liberals shaking in their green friendly g****r neutral boots.
One more time once more; Republicans outnumber Democrats in Virginia. Sixty percent of the registered v**ers in VA DID NOT V**E. For those Virginians who took it seriously and v**ed, you have my admiration. For you worthless buck passing dipsticks who didn't, you have my contempt.
Sicilianthing wrote:
I couldn’t say it better than this...
remember to pull up all those old archives of past about my predictions for this and other things coming...
Most of you still have no clue who or what you’re really dealing with, but you’re about to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: Bob Livingston Alerts
In my article 'Trump Impeachment And The Civil War Scenario', I warned that conservatives and l*****ts are being pushed to the brink of a shooting war using various methods of social manipulation and 4th Gen warfare, and that this conflict, if dictated by Left/Right politics, would only benefit establishment elites in the long run. Internal division among the public is designed to keep us at each other's throats while losing focus on the real enemies.
Hard line democrats and the social justice cult are merely a symptom of the disease, they are not the source of the disease. However, I also acknowledge that the rift between conservatives and the political left has become so extreme that reconciliation is almost impossible. War might be unavoidable, and the g*******ts love it. If they can pretend like they had nothing to do with creating tensions, and if conservatives are so blinded by anger against Democrats that they refuse to admit that some of their own political leaders (including Trump) have been co-opted, the elites win.
The danger in any civil war is that both sides end up being manipulated and controlled, and that the situation is maneuvered toward an outcome that only serves the interests of a select few elites.
Virginia may be a test bed, a trial run for a nationwide conf**gration, and if it does hit a point where state officials compel a violent response from the citizenry, then it is important that liberty advocates remain vigilant and steer clear of incompetent or controlled leaders. It is also important that they remember there is a much larger agenda at play here; the Democrats may be useful i***ts fueling that agenda, but most of them are oblivious to their role. Our fight is not with the Democrats, our fight is with the g*******ts that influence them; the same g*******ts that are trying to influence us.
Claim Your 'Trump Check' Before the Next Batch is Sent
President Trump's secret order just cleared the way for you to receive fat checks like $2,493... $4,112... and even $6,383. And the next batch is about to be sent out. You could rake in these checks month after month! So if you haven't gotten your first check yet, get your name on the list now before the next batch goes out!
The current situation in Virginia remains a battle of political rhetoric and "fluid" interpretations of the law. Here are the arguments I've seen from the political left so far on the issue of 2nd Amendment Sanctuaries:
L*****ts argue that sanctuary county resolutions are "purely symbolic" and have no force of law behind them.
This is a rather naive (perhaps deliberately naive) position, as it ignores the fundamentals. The force of law is either compelled by conscience, or it is compelled by violence. The law itself is meaningless without these two factors. If groups of citizens choose not to follow a law because they find it morally reprehensible, there is nothing the state can do except try to frighten them into compliance with the threat of violence. The concept of a law by itself has no energy, and claiming that something is "right" because it is now "law" is not a valid argument.
In the case of anti-gun laws in Virginia, the vast majority of counties in the state and the people in those counties have made it clear that they will not comply. The l*****ts have completely ignored this fact by simply saying "They have to comply because the law says so..." This is the type of attitude that leads to war.
L*****ts argue that state laws supersede county authority and there is no legal standing for sanctuary resolutions.
The problem with this argument is that it ignores the fact that constitutional protections provided by the Bill of Rights supersede all other laws. It does not matter if attempts are being made by state governments or the federal government to degrade constitutional rights, the people are empowered to refuse and fight against any laws which violate constitutional laws.
For example, Democrats often bring up the history of Jim Crow Laws as a rationale for Federal intervention in the legal affairs of states. Jim Crow laws were segregation laws passed by state government, and in many cases there was resistance on a public level to these laws. Democrats like to cite Jim Crow laws whenever conservatives argue for states rights and 10th Amendment nullification of unconstitutional federal laws. They have conveniently memory-holed the issue whenever state laws are working in favor of their agenda.
The bottom line is this: The constitution takes precedence over all other law, and if Democrats are going to use legal technicality as their foundation for draconian gun control measures, then they really have no leg to stand on. If their argument is that citizens and counties have no legal right to nullify state laws no matter how immoral or unconstitutional, then what would they say if a state government brought back Jim Crow, or legalized s***ery? Virginia's gun control efforts are no different.
L*****ts assert that new laws are "standard" because similar laws have been passed in other states.
This is the totalitarian tiptoe at work. Once an unconstitutional law is passed in California, New York or Illinois, this therefore means that the laws have become "standard" and are thus acceptable. An unconstitutional law is an unconstitutional law. It does not matter how many states pass such a law and proclaim it normal or standard. The people of Virginia have announced in mass that they have no intention of following new gun control laws. The people have spoken, over 90 percent of counties in Virginia have passed 2nd Amendment resolutions with the support of the citizenry. Democrats gaining seats in an e******n does not give them the power to deny constitutional rights to Virginians.
Beyond this, the Virginia laws are nowhere near standard. Clearly, Virginia is being used as a testing ground for Red F**g laws, which are the most concerning. Red F**g laws allow gun confiscation without due process based on ambiguous accusations; it is prosecution and punishment without representation or defense. Red F**g gun laws are a means by which the state can violate your rights while circumventing due process.
The numerous laws Virginia's government hopes to implement set the stage for the incremental removal of all gun rights. They are pushing the envelope to see how far they can move the boundary of what is "standard" when it comes to anti-gun laws. The people of Virginia know this is the agenda. It has always been the l*****t agenda (not to mention a g*******t agenda) to seek out total disarmament of the population. This is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.
L*****ts argue that law enforcement authorities that refuse to enforce new gun laws risk losing their "official immunity."
I'm not sure that "official immunity" has anything to do with the enforcement of gun laws; it is meant to protect LEOs from civil litigation while conducting normal ministerial duties. This sounds more like an a thinly veiled threat against county officials and law enforcement who refuse to comply. It is also an empty threat.
County officials cannot be compelled by the state to actively enforce gun control laws, nor can the state force a county to set aside funds for such an effort. In the case of county sheriffs, these are officials elected by the people of the county, and they answer to the those people, not the state government. County officials can be punished for breaking the law, but they cannot be punished for not enforcing the law to the arbitrary degree that the state sees as acceptable.
L*****ts are pursuing other avenues to enforce new gun laws.
The state government has threatened the use of the National Guard to force counties to comply. They have also sought to form a gun control "task force," essentially a goon squad, which would be used as a weapon to enter into sanctuary counties and enforce the law by circumventing local law enforcement, much like the federal government used the FBI or ATF to circumvent state authorities when it pleases them. I would suggest to the government of Virginia that these actions are a detrimental mistake.
The National Guard of Virginia is made up of the citizens of Virginia, and many of these people may not comply either. If they do, or if the state establishes an enforcement arm to target individual citizens to make examples out of them, the most likely outcome is that people will defend themselves and their constitutional rights. People on both sides might be hurt in the process.
The question then arises: Are these laws worth dying for? I can say with some authority that the majority of conservatives are willing to risk death to protect their rights. Are state authorities willing to risk death to enforce unconstitutional laws? Because this is where the situation is headed...
L*****ts assume this is all about Virginia.
Conservatives don't see it that way. A conflict in Virginia will likely attract thousands of people from outside the state, because the view will be that the line is being drawn there.
Now, it's important for conservatives, especially those that actually live in Virginia, to understand that there will be con men and shysters who will show up out of nowhere and try to exploit the situation to elevate their own careers or public image. They will try to make as much money as they can while shamelessly self-promoting. They will pretend to help while offering substandard advice and substandard training. And if the manure hits the fan, these guys will suddenly disappear as quickly as they arrived.
There will also be people who will try to steer the conflict toward a left vs right paradigm, as I noted earlier. Sanctuary counties should maintain local leadership and local representation in these matters to avoid being manipulated. If people outside the state want to help, then they should be fine with doing this under the supervision and management of the locals.
The best possible scenario would be that the state government of Virginia realizes that it's not worth it to try to enforce unconstitutional gun laws, and that the risks are far too high to manage. They would abandon such endeavors and recognize that counties will not comply even if they try to apply leverage to them.
The worst-case scenario is that this is an establishment beta test for the rest of the country, and that they may want to start a conflict, in the hopes that this will spread into a national civil war. If this is the case, and a wider conflict is triggered, conservatives must not lose sight of the bigger picture. The g*******ts should be the focus of our ire; the democrats are being used. A conflict based only on political division will mean defeat for us all, and a win for the elites.
To t***h and knowledge,
By: Brandon Smith
I couldn’t say it better than this... br remember... (
show quote)
This was all very interesting, but also confirmed what I’ve been thinking. We have more enemies out there than just the Democrats. Virginia is a test state where a new governor comes in and creates a law that goes against the Constitution and the hearts and minds of the majority of the citizens of that state. In Germany, many Germans tried to go against Hitler’s edicts and died for their trouble, the few who just went along to save their skin and to save their families were later accused of crimes against humanity. And, indeed, they were guilty of putting self before honor. Using Virginia, the birthplace of George Washington and many more of our greatest leaders, is the biggest sin of all. As the saying goes, they must be spinning in their graves. We are spitting in the face of their sacrifices. As we learned in Typing I, now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Welcome back, Sicilian Thing.
I live in a state with fsirly strict gun laws. We have a low murder rate, and have not had a mass shooting.
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
One more time. This whole circus could have been avoided had Republicans, (who outnumber Democrats in Virginia) gotten off their asses and v**ed. Personally, I find the whole idea of this seeming statewide outrage ludicrous because of that. As a Conservative, I doubt that the prospect of an armed revolution being prosecuted by people too lazy to v**e has Nancy boy Liberals shaking in their green friendly g****r neutral boots.
One more time once more; Republicans outnumber Democrats in Virginia. Sixty percent of the registered v**ers in VA DID NOT V**E. For those Virginians who took it seriously and v**ed, you have my admiration. For you worthless buck passing dipsticks who didn't, you have my contempt.
One more time. This whole circus could have been a... (
show quote)
This wasn’t the first time they sat down and failed to v**e. Awhile back, they allowed
a First Black Governor to be elected. My daughter and son in law were living in Virginia then and I kept telling them to get out and v**e. They didn’t and many other Republicans didn’t either.
peg w wrote:
I live in a state with fsirly strict gun laws. We have a low murder rate, and have not had a mass shooting.
I live in a state with "fairly" lax gun laws including constitutional carry. We also have a low murder rate, nor have we had a mass shooting. This must mean that the gun laws aren't the common denominator, but maybe something like respect for the rule of law, or good family value upbringings.
Sicilianthing wrote:
I couldn’t say it better than this...
remember to pull up all those old archives of past about my predictions for this and other things coming...
Most of you still have no clue who or what you’re really dealing with, but you’re about to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: Bob Livingston Alerts
In my article 'Trump Impeachment And The Civil War Scenario', I warned that conservatives and l*****ts are being pushed to the brink of a shooting war using various methods of social manipulation and 4th Gen warfare, and that this conflict, if dictated by Left/Right politics, would only benefit establishment elites in the long run. Internal division among the public is designed to keep us at each other's throats while losing focus on the real enemies.
Hard line democrats and the social justice cult are merely a symptom of the disease, they are not the source of the disease. However, I also acknowledge that the rift between conservatives and the political left has become so extreme that reconciliation is almost impossible. War might be unavoidable, and the g*******ts love it. If they can pretend like they had nothing to do with creating tensions, and if conservatives are so blinded by anger against Democrats that they refuse to admit that some of their own political leaders (including Trump) have been co-opted, the elites win.
The danger in any civil war is that both sides end up being manipulated and controlled, and that the situation is maneuvered toward an outcome that only serves the interests of a select few elites.
Virginia may be a test bed, a trial run for a nationwide conf**gration, and if it does hit a point where state officials compel a violent response from the citizenry, then it is important that liberty advocates remain vigilant and steer clear of incompetent or controlled leaders. It is also important that they remember there is a much larger agenda at play here; the Democrats may be useful i***ts fueling that agenda, but most of them are oblivious to their role. Our fight is not with the Democrats, our fight is with the g*******ts that influence them; the same g*******ts that are trying to influence us.
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The current situation in Virginia remains a battle of political rhetoric and "fluid" interpretations of the law. Here are the arguments I've seen from the political left so far on the issue of 2nd Amendment Sanctuaries:
L*****ts argue that sanctuary county resolutions are "purely symbolic" and have no force of law behind them.
This is a rather naive (perhaps deliberately naive) position, as it ignores the fundamentals. The force of law is either compelled by conscience, or it is compelled by violence. The law itself is meaningless without these two factors. If groups of citizens choose not to follow a law because they find it morally reprehensible, there is nothing the state can do except try to frighten them into compliance with the threat of violence. The concept of a law by itself has no energy, and claiming that something is "right" because it is now "law" is not a valid argument.
In the case of anti-gun laws in Virginia, the vast majority of counties in the state and the people in those counties have made it clear that they will not comply. The l*****ts have completely ignored this fact by simply saying "They have to comply because the law says so..." This is the type of attitude that leads to war.
L*****ts argue that state laws supersede county authority and there is no legal standing for sanctuary resolutions.
The problem with this argument is that it ignores the fact that constitutional protections provided by the Bill of Rights supersede all other laws. It does not matter if attempts are being made by state governments or the federal government to degrade constitutional rights, the people are empowered to refuse and fight against any laws which violate constitutional laws.
For example, Democrats often bring up the history of Jim Crow Laws as a rationale for Federal intervention in the legal affairs of states. Jim Crow laws were segregation laws passed by state government, and in many cases there was resistance on a public level to these laws. Democrats like to cite Jim Crow laws whenever conservatives argue for states rights and 10th Amendment nullification of unconstitutional federal laws. They have conveniently memory-holed the issue whenever state laws are working in favor of their agenda.
The bottom line is this: The constitution takes precedence over all other law, and if Democrats are going to use legal technicality as their foundation for draconian gun control measures, then they really have no leg to stand on. If their argument is that citizens and counties have no legal right to nullify state laws no matter how immoral or unconstitutional, then what would they say if a state government brought back Jim Crow, or legalized s***ery? Virginia's gun control efforts are no different.
L*****ts assert that new laws are "standard" because similar laws have been passed in other states.
This is the totalitarian tiptoe at work. Once an unconstitutional law is passed in California, New York or Illinois, this therefore means that the laws have become "standard" and are thus acceptable. An unconstitutional law is an unconstitutional law. It does not matter how many states pass such a law and proclaim it normal or standard. The people of Virginia have announced in mass that they have no intention of following new gun control laws. The people have spoken, over 90 percent of counties in Virginia have passed 2nd Amendment resolutions with the support of the citizenry. Democrats gaining seats in an e******n does not give them the power to deny constitutional rights to Virginians.
Beyond this, the Virginia laws are nowhere near standard. Clearly, Virginia is being used as a testing ground for Red F**g laws, which are the most concerning. Red F**g laws allow gun confiscation without due process based on ambiguous accusations; it is prosecution and punishment without representation or defense. Red F**g gun laws are a means by which the state can violate your rights while circumventing due process.
The numerous laws Virginia's government hopes to implement set the stage for the incremental removal of all gun rights. They are pushing the envelope to see how far they can move the boundary of what is "standard" when it comes to anti-gun laws. The people of Virginia know this is the agenda. It has always been the l*****t agenda (not to mention a g*******t agenda) to seek out total disarmament of the population. This is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.
L*****ts argue that law enforcement authorities that refuse to enforce new gun laws risk losing their "official immunity."
I'm not sure that "official immunity" has anything to do with the enforcement of gun laws; it is meant to protect LEOs from civil litigation while conducting normal ministerial duties. This sounds more like an a thinly veiled threat against county officials and law enforcement who refuse to comply. It is also an empty threat.
County officials cannot be compelled by the state to actively enforce gun control laws, nor can the state force a county to set aside funds for such an effort. In the case of county sheriffs, these are officials elected by the people of the county, and they answer to the those people, not the state government. County officials can be punished for breaking the law, but they cannot be punished for not enforcing the law to the arbitrary degree that the state sees as acceptable.
L*****ts are pursuing other avenues to enforce new gun laws.
The state government has threatened the use of the National Guard to force counties to comply. They have also sought to form a gun control "task force," essentially a goon squad, which would be used as a weapon to enter into sanctuary counties and enforce the law by circumventing local law enforcement, much like the federal government used the FBI or ATF to circumvent state authorities when it pleases them. I would suggest to the government of Virginia that these actions are a detrimental mistake.
The National Guard of Virginia is made up of the citizens of Virginia, and many of these people may not comply either. If they do, or if the state establishes an enforcement arm to target individual citizens to make examples out of them, the most likely outcome is that people will defend themselves and their constitutional rights. People on both sides might be hurt in the process.
The question then arises: Are these laws worth dying for? I can say with some authority that the majority of conservatives are willing to risk death to protect their rights. Are state authorities willing to risk death to enforce unconstitutional laws? Because this is where the situation is headed...
L*****ts assume this is all about Virginia.
Conservatives don't see it that way. A conflict in Virginia will likely attract thousands of people from outside the state, because the view will be that the line is being drawn there.
Now, it's important for conservatives, especially those that actually live in Virginia, to understand that there will be con men and shysters who will show up out of nowhere and try to exploit the situation to elevate their own careers or public image. They will try to make as much money as they can while shamelessly self-promoting. They will pretend to help while offering substandard advice and substandard training. And if the manure hits the fan, these guys will suddenly disappear as quickly as they arrived.
There will also be people who will try to steer the conflict toward a left vs right paradigm, as I noted earlier. Sanctuary counties should maintain local leadership and local representation in these matters to avoid being manipulated. If people outside the state want to help, then they should be fine with doing this under the supervision and management of the locals.
The best possible scenario would be that the state government of Virginia realizes that it's not worth it to try to enforce unconstitutional gun laws, and that the risks are far too high to manage. They would abandon such endeavors and recognize that counties will not comply even if they try to apply leverage to them.
The worst-case scenario is that this is an establishment beta test for the rest of the country, and that they may want to start a conflict, in the hopes that this will spread into a national civil war. If this is the case, and a wider conflict is triggered, conservatives must not lose sight of the bigger picture. The g*******ts should be the focus of our ire; the democrats are being used. A conflict based only on political division will mean defeat for us all, and a win for the elites.
To t***h and knowledge,
By: Brandon Smith
I couldn’t say it better than this... br remember... (
show quote)
Great article and I agree with every word except that Trump has been co-opted. If he had he would have f**ed it and reverted back to type by now, he hasn't done that. I don't care what Brandon Livingstone or Smith think or write. Adding that line just makes them look fair and square. The evidence doesn't support it. When you look at i******s look at the daily apprehension rates, those stats tell the true story. Listen to everyone, believe no one, until you verify things yourself.
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
One more time. This whole circus could have been avoided had Republicans, (who outnumber Democrats in Virginia) gotten off their asses and v**ed. Personally, I find the whole idea of this seeming statewide outrage ludicrous because of that. As a Conservative, I doubt that the prospect of an armed revolution being prosecuted by people too lazy to v**e has Nancy boy Liberals shaking in their green friendly g****r neutral boots.
One more time once more; Republicans outnumber Democrats in Virginia. Sixty percent of the registered v**ers in VA DID NOT V**E. For those Virginians who took it seriously and v**ed, you have my admiration. For you worthless buck passing dipsticks who didn't, you have my contempt.
One more time. This whole circus could have been a... (
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Great Post Smedley, Thank You, makes total sense to me.
Now we sit, wait and watch.
Carol Kelly wrote:
This was all very interesting, but also confirmed what I’ve been thinking. We have more enemies out there than just the Democrats. Virginia is a test state where a new governor comes in and creates a law that goes against the Constitution and the hearts and minds of the majority of the citizens of that state. In Germany, many Germans tried to go against Hitler’s edicts and died for their trouble, the few who just went along to save their skin and to save their families were later accused of crimes against humanity. And, indeed, they were guilty of putting self before honor. Using Virginia, the birthplace of George Washington and many more of our greatest leaders, is the biggest sin of all. As the saying goes, they must be spinning in their graves. We are spitting in the face of their sacrifices. As we learned in Typing I, now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Welcome back, Sicilian Thing.
This was all very interesting, but also confirmed ... (
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NOted, Great post and points.
And, Thank You... remember to compare my notes and predictions of past to what’s unfolding today.
More on this later and what’s to come in 2020.
Get ready for flashpoints, wildcards and really really bad things...
peg w wrote:
I live in a state with fsirly strict gun laws. We have a low murder rate, and have not had a mass shooting.
>>>
Noted, we need 50 state Concealed and Open Carry if necessary going forward.
Things will continue to escalate from here as they will never cease to disarm us unless we remove them.
V****g is not going to work.
Peewee wrote:
Great article and I agree with every word except that Trump has been co-opted. If he had he would have f**ed it and reverted back to type by now, he hasn't done that. I don't care what Brandon Livingstone or Smith think or write. Adding that line just makes them look fair and square. The evidence doesn't support it. When you look at i******s look at the daily apprehension rates, those stats tell the true story. Listen to everyone, believe no one, until you verify things yourself.
>>>
Trump started all this Red F**g Law Bulls**t... he’s to blame for it... should never have opened his mouth about it... this is posted in the other Topic = Trump’s Unholy Wars... all the data is there.
More on this later.
Sicilianthing wrote:
I couldn’t say it better than this...
remember to pull up all those old archives of past about my predictions for this and other things coming...
Most of you still have no clue who or what you’re really dealing with, but you’re about to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: Bob Livingston Alerts
In my article 'Trump Impeachment And The Civil War Scenario', I warned that conservatives and l*****ts are being pushed to the brink of a shooting war using various methods of social manipulation and 4th Gen warfare, and that this conflict, if dictated by Left/Right politics, would only benefit establishment elites in the long run. Internal division among the public is designed to keep us at each other's throats while losing focus on the real enemies.
Hard line democrats and the social justice cult are merely a symptom of the disease, they are not the source of the disease. However, I also acknowledge that the rift between conservatives and the political left has become so extreme that reconciliation is almost impossible. War might be unavoidable, and the g*******ts love it. If they can pretend like they had nothing to do with creating tensions, and if conservatives are so blinded by anger against Democrats that they refuse to admit that some of their own political leaders (including Trump) have been co-opted, the elites win.
The danger in any civil war is that both sides end up being manipulated and controlled, and that the situation is maneuvered toward an outcome that only serves the interests of a select few elites.
Virginia may be a test bed, a trial run for a nationwide conf**gration, and if it does hit a point where state officials compel a violent response from the citizenry, then it is important that liberty advocates remain vigilant and steer clear of incompetent or controlled leaders. It is also important that they remember there is a much larger agenda at play here; the Democrats may be useful i***ts fueling that agenda, but most of them are oblivious to their role. Our fight is not with the Democrats, our fight is with the g*******ts that influence them; the same g*******ts that are trying to influence us.
Claim Your 'Trump Check' Before the Next Batch is Sent
President Trump's secret order just cleared the way for you to receive fat checks like $2,493... $4,112... and even $6,383. And the next batch is about to be sent out. You could rake in these checks month after month! So if you haven't gotten your first check yet, get your name on the list now before the next batch goes out!
The current situation in Virginia remains a battle of political rhetoric and "fluid" interpretations of the law. Here are the arguments I've seen from the political left so far on the issue of 2nd Amendment Sanctuaries:
L*****ts argue that sanctuary county resolutions are "purely symbolic" and have no force of law behind them.
This is a rather naive (perhaps deliberately naive) position, as it ignores the fundamentals. The force of law is either compelled by conscience, or it is compelled by violence. The law itself is meaningless without these two factors. If groups of citizens choose not to follow a law because they find it morally reprehensible, there is nothing the state can do except try to frighten them into compliance with the threat of violence. The concept of a law by itself has no energy, and claiming that something is "right" because it is now "law" is not a valid argument.
In the case of anti-gun laws in Virginia, the vast majority of counties in the state and the people in those counties have made it clear that they will not comply. The l*****ts have completely ignored this fact by simply saying "They have to comply because the law says so..." This is the type of attitude that leads to war.
L*****ts argue that state laws supersede county authority and there is no legal standing for sanctuary resolutions.
The problem with this argument is that it ignores the fact that constitutional protections provided by the Bill of Rights supersede all other laws. It does not matter if attempts are being made by state governments or the federal government to degrade constitutional rights, the people are empowered to refuse and fight against any laws which violate constitutional laws.
For example, Democrats often bring up the history of Jim Crow Laws as a rationale for Federal intervention in the legal affairs of states. Jim Crow laws were segregation laws passed by state government, and in many cases there was resistance on a public level to these laws. Democrats like to cite Jim Crow laws whenever conservatives argue for states rights and 10th Amendment nullification of unconstitutional federal laws. They have conveniently memory-holed the issue whenever state laws are working in favor of their agenda.
The bottom line is this: The constitution takes precedence over all other law, and if Democrats are going to use legal technicality as their foundation for draconian gun control measures, then they really have no leg to stand on. If their argument is that citizens and counties have no legal right to nullify state laws no matter how immoral or unconstitutional, then what would they say if a state government brought back Jim Crow, or legalized s***ery? Virginia's gun control efforts are no different.
L*****ts assert that new laws are "standard" because similar laws have been passed in other states.
This is the totalitarian tiptoe at work. Once an unconstitutional law is passed in California, New York or Illinois, this therefore means that the laws have become "standard" and are thus acceptable. An unconstitutional law is an unconstitutional law. It does not matter how many states pass such a law and proclaim it normal or standard. The people of Virginia have announced in mass that they have no intention of following new gun control laws. The people have spoken, over 90 percent of counties in Virginia have passed 2nd Amendment resolutions with the support of the citizenry. Democrats gaining seats in an e******n does not give them the power to deny constitutional rights to Virginians.
Beyond this, the Virginia laws are nowhere near standard. Clearly, Virginia is being used as a testing ground for Red F**g laws, which are the most concerning. Red F**g laws allow gun confiscation without due process based on ambiguous accusations; it is prosecution and punishment without representation or defense. Red F**g gun laws are a means by which the state can violate your rights while circumventing due process.
The numerous laws Virginia's government hopes to implement set the stage for the incremental removal of all gun rights. They are pushing the envelope to see how far they can move the boundary of what is "standard" when it comes to anti-gun laws. The people of Virginia know this is the agenda. It has always been the l*****t agenda (not to mention a g*******t agenda) to seek out total disarmament of the population. This is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.
L*****ts argue that law enforcement authorities that refuse to enforce new gun laws risk losing their "official immunity."
I'm not sure that "official immunity" has anything to do with the enforcement of gun laws; it is meant to protect LEOs from civil litigation while conducting normal ministerial duties. This sounds more like an a thinly veiled threat against county officials and law enforcement who refuse to comply. It is also an empty threat.
County officials cannot be compelled by the state to actively enforce gun control laws, nor can the state force a county to set aside funds for such an effort. In the case of county sheriffs, these are officials elected by the people of the county, and they answer to the those people, not the state government. County officials can be punished for breaking the law, but they cannot be punished for not enforcing the law to the arbitrary degree that the state sees as acceptable.
L*****ts are pursuing other avenues to enforce new gun laws.
The state government has threatened the use of the National Guard to force counties to comply. They have also sought to form a gun control "task force," essentially a goon squad, which would be used as a weapon to enter into sanctuary counties and enforce the law by circumventing local law enforcement, much like the federal government used the FBI or ATF to circumvent state authorities when it pleases them. I would suggest to the government of Virginia that these actions are a detrimental mistake.
The National Guard of Virginia is made up of the citizens of Virginia, and many of these people may not comply either. If they do, or if the state establishes an enforcement arm to target individual citizens to make examples out of them, the most likely outcome is that people will defend themselves and their constitutional rights. People on both sides might be hurt in the process.
The question then arises: Are these laws worth dying for? I can say with some authority that the majority of conservatives are willing to risk death to protect their rights. Are state authorities willing to risk death to enforce unconstitutional laws? Because this is where the situation is headed...
L*****ts assume this is all about Virginia.
Conservatives don't see it that way. A conflict in Virginia will likely attract thousands of people from outside the state, because the view will be that the line is being drawn there.
Now, it's important for conservatives, especially those that actually live in Virginia, to understand that there will be con men and shysters who will show up out of nowhere and try to exploit the situation to elevate their own careers or public image. They will try to make as much money as they can while shamelessly self-promoting. They will pretend to help while offering substandard advice and substandard training. And if the manure hits the fan, these guys will suddenly disappear as quickly as they arrived.
There will also be people who will try to steer the conflict toward a left vs right paradigm, as I noted earlier. Sanctuary counties should maintain local leadership and local representation in these matters to avoid being manipulated. If people outside the state want to help, then they should be fine with doing this under the supervision and management of the locals.
The best possible scenario would be that the state government of Virginia realizes that it's not worth it to try to enforce unconstitutional gun laws, and that the risks are far too high to manage. They would abandon such endeavors and recognize that counties will not comply even if they try to apply leverage to them.
The worst-case scenario is that this is an establishment beta test for the rest of the country, and that they may want to start a conflict, in the hopes that this will spread into a national civil war. If this is the case, and a wider conflict is triggered, conservatives must not lose sight of the bigger picture. The g*******ts should be the focus of our ire; the democrats are being used. A conflict based only on political division will mean defeat for us all, and a win for the elites.
To t***h and knowledge,
By: Brandon Smith
I couldn’t say it better than this... br remember... (
show quote)
This makes sense if and only if one variable fits in. The thing is we'll never know about it until who knows when. The variable-a****a is bringing in s**tloads of money. Money for what? Arms? They are kind of late. Body armor same thing. So who knows.
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
One more time. This whole circus could have been avoided had Republicans, (who outnumber Democrats in Virginia) gotten off their asses and v**ed. Personally, I find the whole idea of this seeming statewide outrage ludicrous because of that. As a Conservative, I doubt that the prospect of an armed revolution being prosecuted by people too lazy to v**e has Nancy boy Liberals shaking in their green friendly g****r neutral boots.
One more time once more; Republicans outnumber Democrats in Virginia. Sixty percent of the registered v**ers in VA DID NOT V**E. For those Virginians who took it seriously and v**ed, you have my admiration. For you worthless buck passing dipsticks who didn't, you have my contempt.
One more time. This whole circus could have been a... (
show quote)
Okay they didn't v**e. The problem is still there.
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
This makes sense if and only if one variable fits in. The thing is we'll never know about it until who knows when. The variable-a****a is bringing in s**tloads of money. Money for what? Arms? They are kind of late. Body armor same thing. So who knows.
>>>
For a false f**g... I just created 2 new topics for this Virginia thing
peg w wrote:
I live in a state with fsirly strict gun laws. We have a low murder rate, and have not had a mass shooting.
Good for you!! I however would prefer to carry to insure that, if I am not the first one shot in an incident I will be capable of protecting myself, which I am not able to do in states that have strict gun laws.
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