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Jan 12, 2020 20:21:25   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
Certain members of our progressive leaning members here on OPP were clap trapping about President Trump declaring he, his campaign and then presidency had been and were wiretapped. They were saying that he was delusional and paranoid. Well guess what(like most of us already knew) President Trump and company were in fact illegally wiretapped and spied upon using other methods as well. As a matter of fact every damn thing that President Trump has commented on regarding this issue along with many many others have been spot on! I guess all of you that cant stand Trump regardless of all of the GREAT accomplishments he has made for ALL of us must have really put your hearts and soul into electing one of the most egregious criminals of our time to the Oval Office. Im amazed that after everything that has come out about Clinton you would still support her. As teenagers like to write OMG!!!! What the heck is the matter with you?
Semper Fi
Mike

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Jan 12, 2020 21:39:12   #
Auntie Lulu
 
2bltap wrote:
Certain members of our progressive leaning members here on OPP were clap trapping about President Trump declaring he, his campaign and then presidency had been and were wiretapped. They were saying that he was delusional and paranoid. Well guess what(like most of us already knew) President Trump and company were in fact illegally wiretapped and spied upon using other methods as well. As a matter of fact every damn thing that President Trump has commented on regarding this issue along with many many others have been spot on! I guess all of you that cant stand Trump regardless of all of the GREAT accomplishments he has made for ALL of us must have really put your hearts and soul into electing one of the most egregious criminals of our time to the Oval Office. Im amazed that after everything that has come out about Clinton you would still support her. As teenagers like to write OMG!!!! What the heck is the matter with you?
Semper Fi
Mike
Certain members of our progressive leaning members... (show quote)



Amen to that! I just hope that by and by there will be criminal proceedings regarding these egregious acts.

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Jan 12, 2020 21:56:21   #
Seth
 
2bltap wrote:
Certain members of our progressive leaning members here on OPP were clap trapping about President Trump declaring he, his campaign and then presidency had been and were wiretapped. They were saying that he was delusional and paranoid. Well guess what(like most of us already knew) President Trump and company were in fact illegally wiretapped and spied upon using other methods as well. As a matter of fact every damn thing that President Trump has commented on regarding this issue along with many many others have been spot on! I guess all of you that cant stand Trump regardless of all of the GREAT accomplishments he has made for ALL of us must have really put your hearts and soul into electing one of the most egregious criminals of our time to the Oval Office. Im amazed that after everything that has come out about Clinton you would still support her. As teenagers like to write OMG!!!! What the heck is the matter with you?
Semper Fi
Mike
Certain members of our progressive leaning members... (show quote)


You'll notice that once the t***h came out, no lefties anywhere had the sense of honor to come out and admit they were wrong. Suddenly it's a dead subject.

That, or they grind on with the party line that it never happened, just as they do with the Russia collusion that Mueller and his "get Trump" crew couldn't produce any goods on.

Today's Democrats are trapped in their own sterile world of propaganda and Trump hatred that can not and will not be contaminated by The T***h®.

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Jan 12, 2020 21:56:51   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
Auntie Lulu wrote:
Amen to that! I just hope that by and by there will be criminal proceedings regarding these egregious acts.


Now wouldn't that be something Auntie Lulu! I also agree with your comment as well. Take good care now.
Semper Fi
Mike

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Jan 13, 2020 12:48:44   #
greenmountaineer Loc: Vermont
 
2bltap wrote:
Certain members of our progressive leaning members here on OPP were clap trapping about President Trump declaring he, his campaign and then presidency had been and were wiretapped. They were saying that he was delusional and paranoid. Well guess what(like most of us already knew) President Trump and company were in fact illegally wiretapped and spied upon using other methods as well. As a matter of fact every damn thing that President Trump has commented on regarding this issue along with many many others have been spot on! I guess all of you that cant stand Trump regardless of all of the GREAT accomplishments he has made for ALL of us must have really put your hearts and soul into electing one of the most egregious criminals of our time to the Oval Office. Im amazed that after everything that has come out about Clinton you would still support her. As teenagers like to write OMG!!!! What the heck is the matter with you?
Semper Fi
Mike
Certain members of our progressive leaning members... (show quote)


What evidence do you have that any of this ever occured? It's fine to say so, but that doesn't prove anything but your opinion. So show me the evidence. You have not cited any.

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Jan 13, 2020 13:19:48   #
American Vet
 
greenmountaineer wrote:
What evidence do you have that any of this ever occured? It's fine to say so, but that doesn't prove anything but your opinion. So show me the evidence. You have not cited any.


"From May 2013, from the Washington Post: “Journalists, First Amendment watchdogs and government t***sparency advocates reacted with outrage Monday to the revelation that the Justice Department had investigated the news gathering activities of a Fox News reporter as a potential crime in a probe of classified leaks.”

And just who was that Fox News personality?
James Rosen, the cable outlet’s chief Washington correspondent.

“It was downright chilling,” said Fox News executive Michael Clemente in a statement, of the government’s attempt to seize Rosen’s emails.
That’s just two surveillance operations on innocent Americans — members of the press, no less — from Team Obama.


"The notion of Obama and his supporters putting an American under surveillance for personal and political reasons is not a left-field thought. Really, considering the history of the previous White House, and all the secret surveillance that went on during those eight years, it would actually prove more surprising to find out Trump wasn’t placed under watch by Obama teammates and cheerleaders.

Trump’s claims may be unfounded; may be proven. But in the end, the bigger story is this: Obama’s presidency tapped into citizens’ private information all the time. Isn’t that, more than Trump’s accusations, cause for more concern?"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/20/trump-wiretap-claims-well-obama-did-secretly-spy/?utm_source=GOOGLE&utm_medium=cpc&utm_id=chacka&utm_campaign=TWT+-+DSA&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2vyd6paB5wIVD9vACh2AMwZyEAMYASAAEgLWQfD_BwE

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Jan 13, 2020 13:51:03   #
greenmountaineer Loc: Vermont
 
American Vet wrote:
"From May 2013, from the Washington Post: “Journalists, First Amendment watchdogs and government t***sparency advocates reacted with outrage Monday to the revelation that the Justice Department had investigated the news gathering activities of a Fox News reporter as a potential crime in a probe of classified leaks.”

And just who was that Fox News personality?
James Rosen, the cable outlet’s chief Washington correspondent.

“It was downright chilling,” said Fox News executive Michael Clemente in a statement, of the government’s attempt to seize Rosen’s emails.
That’s just two surveillance operations on innocent Americans — members of the press, no less — from Team Obama.


"The notion of Obama and his supporters putting an American under surveillance for personal and political reasons is not a left-field thought. Really, considering the history of the previous White House, and all the secret surveillance that went on during those eight years, it would actually prove more surprising to find out Trump wasn’t placed under watch by Obama teammates and cheerleaders.

Trump’s claims may be unfounded; may be proven. But in the end, the bigger story is this: Obama’s presidency tapped into citizens’ private information all the time. Isn’t that, more than Trump’s accusations, cause for more concern?"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/20/trump-wiretap-claims-well-obama-did-secretly-spy/?utm_source=GOOGLE&utm_medium=cpc&utm_id=chacka&utm_campaign=TWT+-+DSA&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2vyd6paB5wIVD9vACh2AMwZyEAMYASAAEgLWQfD_BwE
"From May 2013, from the Washington Post: “Jo... (show quote)


This article you cite does not say that Obama bugged candidate Trump. It says that they did surveillance on a reporter during an investigation of classified leaks. If somebody was leaking classified information, that would be a valid and legal reason to investigate them. Admitting that a lot of information is over-classified, when something is classified "secret" or "top secret" or one of the higher classifications, it is generally because somebody with the authority to do so has decided that that information would be damaging to the United States if it got out. Only folks with the proper security clearances and with the Need to Know due to their jobs, are cleared to know such stuff.

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Jan 13, 2020 14:16:14   #
American Vet
 
greenmountaineer wrote:
This article you cite does not say that Obama bugged candidate Trump. It says that they did surveillance on a reporter during an investigation of classified leaks. If somebody was leaking classified information, that would be a valid and legal reason to investigate them. Admitting that a lot of information is over-classified, when something is classified "secret" or "top secret" or one of the higher classifications, it is generally because somebody with the authority to do so has decided that that information would be damaging to the United States if it got out. Only folks with the proper security clearances and with the Need to Know due to their jobs, are cleared to know such stuff.
This article you cite does not say that Obama bugg... (show quote)


I never claimed it did (obama bugged President Trumps): Just that the article points out it would be no surprise.

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Jan 13, 2020 15:05:56   #
greenmountaineer Loc: Vermont
 
American Vet wrote:
I never claimed it did (obama bugged President Trumps): Just that the article points out it would be no surprise.


You may not have made such a claim but the original guy who posted this sure did. Read his post at the top of this series.

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Jan 13, 2020 16:24:35   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
greenmountaineer wrote:
What evidence do you have that any of this ever occured? It's fine to say so, but that doesn't prove anything but your opinion. So show me the evidence. You have not cited any.


Evidence? I don't have it, the torn-up wires were good enough for me.

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Jan 13, 2020 16:26:02   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
greenmountaineer wrote:
This article you cite does not say that Obama bugged candidate Trump. It says that they did surveillance on a reporter during an investigation of classified leaks. If somebody was leaking classified information, that would be a valid and legal reason to investigate them. Admitting that a lot of information is over-classified, when something is classified "secret" or "top secret" or one of the higher classifications, it is generally because somebody with the authority to do so has decided that that information would be damaging to the United States if it got out. Only folks with the proper security clearances and with the Need to Know due to their jobs, are cleared to know such stuff.
This article you cite does not say that Obama bugg... (show quote)


Obammie? Nope, he weaponized the cia who did it. I'm in touch as in live next door to a former nsa agent who told me about it.

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Jan 13, 2020 16:40:24   #
American Vet
 
greenmountaineer wrote:
You may not have made such a claim but the original guy who posted this sure did. Read his post at the top of this series.


And?

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