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Jan 12, 2020 18:34:33   #
Fodaoson Loc: South Texas
 
Virginia has gone nuts. It is taking guns away from law abiding citizens and giving the v**e to criminals. It is violating the second amendment and violating common sense

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Jan 12, 2020 18:37:53   #
Kevyn
 
Fodaoson wrote:
Virginia has gone nuts. It is taking guns away from law abiding citizens and giving the v**e to criminals. It is violating the second amendment and violating common sense


The sensible gun regulation Virginia is implementing has been tested in the courts when other states have done the same, and they are well within constitutional constraints. They are not taking anyone’s guns. Other than lunatics and felons.

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Jan 12, 2020 19:00:47   #
Fodaoson Loc: South Texas
 
Fodaoson wrote:
Virginia has gone nuts. It is taking guns away from law abiding citizens and giving the v**e to criminals. It is violating the second amendment and violating common sense


Here I go again, believing the nonsense I read on OPP

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Jan 12, 2020 19:56:22   #
Edulm1038
 
The only thing that's nuts in Virginia is Gov Northam who is ok with k*****g babies. But.............he makes them comfortable before they are murdered. I think he is a d********g moron.

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Jan 12, 2020 20:43:00   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Kevyn wrote:
The sensible gun regulation Virginia is implementing has been tested in the courts when other states have done the same, and they are well within constitutional constraints. They are not taking anyone’s guns. Other than lunatics and felons.
Is Virginia SB64 "within constitutional restraints"? Before you answer, what exactly constitutes a "constitutional restraint"?

The constitution - Articles, Sections, and paragraphs - describes what the federal government can do, how it is intended to function. OTH, the Bill of Rights defines what the federal government CANNOT DO. The 2nd amendment constrains the government. The right to bear arms is inalienable, it shall not be infringed.


Virginia Bill SB64 states that a person is guilty of a Felony if that person Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons. This doesn’t just apply to firearms, but your martial arts as well.

The law would instantly t***sform all martial arts instructors into criminal felons. This includes instructors who teach kickboxing, BJJ, Krav Maga, boxing and even Capoeira.

It would also criminalize all firearms training classes, including concealed carry classes.

It would even criminalize a father teaching his own son how to use a hunting rifle.

Specifically, the law says that a person “is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity” (a class 5 felony) if that person:

“Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons…”

The phrase “technique capable of causing injury or death to persons” covers all forms of martial arts and self-defense training, including Krav Maga, BJJ, boxing and other contact martial arts such as Tae Kwon Do or Tai Chi.

Under the proposed law, all forms of self-defense training — including hand-to-hand martial arts training — would be considered “paramilitary activity,” even if the training consists of private classes involving just one instructor and one student. That’s because every form of martial arts training imparts sk**ls which could be used to cause injury to other persons.

In fact, according to the language of the law, just “one” person learning such arts is a felony crime, which means that watching a DVD on Krav Maga would be a felony crime.

“Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons…”

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Jan 12, 2020 21:36:36   #
Auntie Lulu
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Is Virginia SB64 "within constitutional restraints"? Before you answer, what exactly constitutes a "constitutional restraint"?

The constitution - Articles, Sections, and paragraphs - describes what the federal government can do, how it is intended to function. OTH, the Bill of Rights defines what the federal government CANNOT DO. The 2nd amendment constrains the government. The right to bear arms is inalienable, it shall not be infringed.


Virginia Bill SB64 states that a person is guilty of a Felony if that person Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons. This doesn’t just apply to firearms, but your martial arts as well.

The law would instantly t***sform all martial arts instructors into criminal felons. This includes instructors who teach kickboxing, BJJ, Krav Maga, boxing and even Capoeira.

It would also criminalize all firearms training classes, including concealed carry classes.

It would even criminalize a father teaching his own son how to use a hunting rifle.

Specifically, the law says that a person “is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity” (a class 5 felony) if that person:

“Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons…”

The phrase “technique capable of causing injury or death to persons” covers all forms of martial arts and self-defense training, including Krav Maga, BJJ, boxing and other contact martial arts such as Tae Kwon Do or Tai Chi.

Under the proposed law, all forms of self-defense training — including hand-to-hand martial arts training — would be considered “paramilitary activity,” even if the training consists of private classes involving just one instructor and one student. That’s because every form of martial arts training imparts sk**ls which could be used to cause injury to other persons.

In fact, according to the language of the law, just “one” person learning such arts is a felony crime, which means that watching a DVD on Krav Maga would be a felony crime.

“Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons…”
Is Virginia SB64 "within constitutional restr... (show quote)



That is beyond scary. Did the people of Virginia know what a ham bone they were v****g into office?

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Jan 12, 2020 21:59:14   #
Seth
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Is Virginia SB64 "within constitutional restraints"? Before you answer, what exactly constitutes a "constitutional restraint"?

The constitution - Articles, Sections, and paragraphs - describes what the federal government can do, how it is intended to function. OTH, the Bill of Rights defines what the federal government CANNOT DO. The 2nd amendment constrains the government. The right to bear arms is inalienable, it shall not be infringed.


Virginia Bill SB64 states that a person is guilty of a Felony if that person Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons. This doesn’t just apply to firearms, but your martial arts as well.

The law would instantly t***sform all martial arts instructors into criminal felons. This includes instructors who teach kickboxing, BJJ, Krav Maga, boxing and even Capoeira.

It would also criminalize all firearms training classes, including concealed carry classes.

It would even criminalize a father teaching his own son how to use a hunting rifle.

Specifically, the law says that a person “is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity” (a class 5 felony) if that person:

“Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons…”

The phrase “technique capable of causing injury or death to persons” covers all forms of martial arts and self-defense training, including Krav Maga, BJJ, boxing and other contact martial arts such as Tae Kwon Do or Tai Chi.

Under the proposed law, all forms of self-defense training — including hand-to-hand martial arts training — would be considered “paramilitary activity,” even if the training consists of private classes involving just one instructor and one student. That’s because every form of martial arts training imparts sk**ls which could be used to cause injury to other persons.

In fact, according to the language of the law, just “one” person learning such arts is a felony crime, which means that watching a DVD on Krav Maga would be a felony crime.

“Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons…”
Is Virginia SB64 "within constitutional restr... (show quote)


Wait, are you talking about the U.S. State of Virginia, or the former Soviet Union?

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Jan 12, 2020 22:04:20   #
Fodaoson Loc: South Texas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Is Virginia SB64 "within constitutional restraints"? Before you answer, what exactly constitutes a "constitutional restraint"?

The constitution - Articles, Sections, and paragraphs - describes what the federal government can do, how it is intended to function. OTH, the Bill of Rights defines what the federal government CANNOT DO. The 2nd amendment constrains the government. The right to bear arms is inalienable, it shall not be infringed.


Virginia Bill SB64 states that a person is guilty of a Felony if that person Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons. This doesn’t just apply to firearms, but your martial arts as well.

The law would instantly t***sform all martial arts instructors into criminal felons. This includes instructors who teach kickboxing, BJJ, Krav Maga, boxing and even Capoeira.

It would also criminalize all firearms training classes, including concealed carry classes.

It would even criminalize a father teaching his own son how to use a hunting rifle.

Specifically, the law says that a person “is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity” (a class 5 felony) if that person:

“Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons…”

The phrase “technique capable of causing injury or death to persons” covers all forms of martial arts and self-defense training, including Krav Maga, BJJ, boxing and other contact martial arts such as Tae Kwon Do or Tai Chi.

Under the proposed law, all forms of self-defense training — including hand-to-hand martial arts training — would be considered “paramilitary activity,” even if the training consists of private classes involving just one instructor and one student. That’s because every form of martial arts training imparts sk**ls which could be used to cause injury to other persons.

In fact, according to the language of the law, just “one” person learning such arts is a felony crime, which means that watching a DVD on Krav Maga would be a felony crime.

“Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons…”
Is Virginia SB64 "within constitutional restr... (show quote)


Blade runner writes “The right to bear arms is inalienable, it shall not be infringed.” The declaration of independence mentions unalienable rights of life ,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness

The constitution protects the right to bear arms.
“ A well regulated M*****a, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”
Two different documents with two distinct purposes. The DOI is call to i**********n and r*******n. The constitution establishes a Democratic Republic

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Jan 12, 2020 22:50:02   #
okie don
 
Kevyn wrote:
The sensible gun regulation Virginia is implementing has been tested in the courts when other states have done the same, and they are well within constitutional constraints. They are not taking anyone’s guns. Other than lunatics and felons.

You ever heard the phrase " the camels nose is in the tent"
Ever heard the saying " shall not be infrienged".
Understand now???

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Jan 12, 2020 22:59:32   #
Seth
 
okie don wrote:
You ever heard the phrase " the camels nose is in the tent"
Ever heard the saying " shall not be infrienged".
Understand now???


Every single one of their agendas that the Democrats downplay as a "sensible" precaution is the camel's nose under the tent... "The body will soon follow."

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Jan 12, 2020 23:26:05   #
debeda
 
Edulm1038 wrote:
The only thing that's nuts in Virginia is Gov Northam who is ok with k*****g babies. But.............he makes them comfortable before they are murdered. I think he is a d********g moron.



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Jan 12, 2020 23:28:31   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Fodaoson wrote:
Blade runner writes “The right to bear arms is inalienable, it shall not be infringed.” The declaration of independence mentions unalienable rights of life ,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness

The constitution protects the right to bear arms.
“ A well regulated M*****a, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”
Two different documents with two distinct purposes. The DOI is call to i**********n and r*******n. The constitution establishes a Democratic Republic
Blade runner writes “The right to bear arms is in... (show quote)
The Constitution of the United States was built upon the foundation laid in the Declaration of Independence.

For those of you in Rio Linda, that means that the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States are intimately related. One exists because of the other. As a Native America would say, "they are Blood Brothers."

The Declaration of Independence says Americans are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that AMONG these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. . . .

For those of you in Rio Linda, the Right to Life is unalienable, we have the Right to live, and to do that we have the Right to protect and defend Life itself and our individual and collective lives. Sometimes we have to do that with a gun.



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Jan 13, 2020 00:49:49   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Fodaoson wrote:
Here I go again, believing the nonsense I read on OPP


The Democrats in Virginia want to pass laws that actually confiscate guns from law abiding citizens. They want to pass a very flawed red f**g law. Already over 100 counties and municipalities in Virginia have declared themselves sanctuary 2nd Amendment counties. My brother lives there and keeps me updated. You should never believe kevy. He’s a troll and a liar.

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Jan 13, 2020 02:51:43   #
Kevyn
 
okie don wrote:
You ever heard the phrase " the camels nose is in the tent"
Ever heard the saying " shall not be infrienged".
Understand now???


Ever heard the saying “well regulated” understand now???

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Jan 13, 2020 03:14:36   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Kevyn wrote:
Ever heard the saying “well regulated” understand now???
Yeah, we understand. "Well-regulated" DOES NOT mean regulated by the federal government.

Been over this a million times and you still haven't got it. Go figure.

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