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Democracy Has To Be The Will Of The Majority
Jun 19, 2014 23:53:58   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
You can't force democracy on people.

Democracy has to be a desire.

If a majority celebrate and embrace a theocracy or any other ideology, let them have it.

We can support threats of aggression on an established democracy that is truly the will of the people. However, we can not fight their battles as we tried in Vietnam. Democratic leaders have to understand why regions in their territory celebrate and embrace theocracy or in the case of Vietnam, c*******m. They need to decide if democracy can be sustained there or not. In the case of Vietnam, democracy was a façade and not real but rather a dictatorship that oppressed Buddhists and was used to get the US to sympathize and fight their war. It exploited a paranoia that c*******m would spread just as there is a paranoia that theocracy will spread today.

If a nation's leaders cannot convince a majority in a region that democracy is something worth fighting for, then any military action we take, as outsiders, to force democracy, will not be sustained.

The argument of forcing democracy as a deterrent to attacks on the homeland is not valid. When an enemy has political power in their region, they risk losing it with an attack on us. They have less to lose by attacking us when they are struggling to survive.

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Jun 20, 2014 00:10:16   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
UncleJesse wrote:
You can't force democracy on people.

Democracy has to be a desire.

If a majority celebrate and embrace a theocracy or any other ideology, let them have it.

We can support threats of aggression on an established democracy that is truly the will of the people. However, we can not fight their battles as we tried in Vietnam. Democratic leaders have to understand why regions in their territory celebrate and embrace theocracy or in the case of Vietnam, c*******m. They need to decide if democracy can be sustained there or not. In the case of Vietnam, democracy was a façade and not real but rather a dictatorship that oppressed Buddhists and was used to get the US to sympathize and fight their war. It exploited a paranoia that c*******m would spread just as there is a paranoia that theocracy will spread today.

If a nation's leaders cannot convince a majority in a region that democracy is something worth fighting for, then any military action we take, as outsiders, to force democracy, will not be sustained.

The argument of forcing democracy as a deterrent to attacks on the homeland is not valid. When an enemy has political power in their region, they risk losing it with an attack on us. They have less to lose by attacking us when they are struggling to survive.
You can't force democracy on people. br br Democr... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: UncleJesse, your post is somewhat in the same vein as Nickolai's, 'Who Won Iraq?'.
It was posted within minutes of yours.

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Jun 20, 2014 00:12:42   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
UncleJesse wrote:
You can't force democracy on people.

Democracy has to be a desire.

If a majority celebrate and embrace a theocracy or any other ideology, let them have it.

We can support threats of aggression on an established democracy that is truly the will of the people. However, we can not fight their battles as we tried in Vietnam. Democratic leaders have to understand why regions in their territory celebrate and embrace theocracy or in the case of Vietnam, c*******m. They need to decide if democracy can be sustained there or not. In the case of Vietnam, democracy was a façade and not real but rather a dictatorship that oppressed Buddhists and was used to get the US to sympathize and fight their war. It exploited a paranoia that c*******m would spread just as there is a paranoia that theocracy will spread today.

If a nation's leaders cannot convince a majority in a region that democracy is something worth fighting for, then any military action we take, as outsiders, to force democracy, will not be sustained.

The argument of forcing democracy as a deterrent to attacks on the homeland is not valid. When an enemy has political power in their region, they risk losing it with an attack on us. They have less to lose by attacking us when they are struggling to survive.
You can't force democracy on people. br br Democr... (show quote)


Very thoughtful. :thumbup:

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Jun 20, 2014 07:36:38   #
yogiman
 
The government isn't interested in forcing democracy on us. they are only interested in forcing c*******m on us.

If you have the time (1.5 hours) I strongly suggest you check
video 63749370 on google.

I also suggest you check the book "The Naked C*******t" and see how far back this has been going on. It will tell you why and how they put a constitutionally ineligible person in our Oval Office.

It will give you a good look at what we have in congress today.

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Jun 20, 2014 10:11:14   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
yogiman wrote:
The government isn't interested in forcing democracy on us. they are only interested in forcing c*******m on us.

If you have the time (1.5 hours) I strongly suggest you check
video 63749370 on google.

I also suggest you check the book "The Naked C*******t" and see how far back this has been going on. It will tell you why and how they put a constitutionally ineligible person in our Oval Office.

It will give you a good look at what we have in congress today.


I was referring to US nation building...Iraq.

It has nothing to do with the c*******t conspiracy theorists or alien astronaut scientists beliefs.

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Jun 20, 2014 10:24:05   #
Thunder
 
Democracy !! Hell that word is not even found in the US Constitution . Democracy is best described as MOB RULE BY A MINORITY . That's what we seem to have in our Republic run by 535 in Wash. D.C. To them it's ALL about CONTROL . GRRRRR

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Jun 20, 2014 10:26:27   #
emarine
 
UncleJesse wrote:
You can't force democracy on people.

Democracy has to be a desire.

If a majority celebrate and embrace a theocracy or any other ideology, let them have it.

We can support threats of aggression on an established democracy that is truly the will of the people. However, we can not fight their battles as we tried in Vietnam. Democratic leaders have to understand why regions in their territory celebrate and embrace theocracy or in the case of Vietnam, c*******m. They need to decide if democracy can be sustained there or not. In the case of Vietnam, democracy was a façade and not real but rather a dictatorship that oppressed Buddhists and was used to get the US to sympathize and fight their war. It exploited a paranoia that c*******m would spread just as there is a paranoia that theocracy will spread today.

If a nation's leaders cannot convince a majority in a region that democracy is something worth fighting for, then any military action we take, as outsiders, to force democracy, will not be sustained.

The argument of forcing democracy as a deterrent to attacks on the homeland is not valid. When an enemy has political power in their region, they risk losing it with an attack on us. They have less to lose by attacking us when they are struggling to survive.
You can't force democracy on people. br br Democr... (show quote)


Democracy by the people not for the people.... good theory

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Jun 20, 2014 10:48:46   #
just chris
 
UncleJesse wrote:
You can't force democracy on people.

Democracy has to be a desire.

If a majority celebrate and embrace a theocracy or any other ideology, let them have it.

We can support threats of aggression on an established democracy that is truly the will of the people. However, we can not fight their battles as we tried in Vietnam. Democratic leaders have to understand why regions in their territory celebrate and embrace theocracy or in the case of Vietnam, c*******m. They need to decide if democracy can be sustained there or not. In the case of Vietnam, democracy was a façade and not real but rather a dictatorship that oppressed Buddhists and was used to get the US to sympathize and fight their war. It exploited a paranoia that c*******m would spread just as there is a paranoia that theocracy will spread today.

If a nation's leaders cannot convince a majority in a region that democracy is something worth fighting for, then any military action we take, as outsiders, to force democracy, will not be sustained.

The argument of forcing democracy as a deterrent to attacks on the homeland is not valid. When an enemy has political power in their region, they risk losing it with an attack on us. They have less to lose by attacking us when they are struggling to survive.
You can't force democracy on people. br br Democr... (show quote)


Excellent post on the subject for a change how about the fact they just h**e us becuse we are there.

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Jun 20, 2014 11:14:14   #
yogiman
 
As a child, I was taught democracy was 'of the people, by the people and for the people'.

The congress of today see it as of the government, by the government, for the government... meaning them; to hell with the people.

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