thebigp

The Cato Institute released an updated 2016 study showing that welfare benefits pay more than a minimum wage job in 33 American states, and the District of Columbia.

Even worse, welfare pays more than $15 per hour to stay home in 13 states.

According to the study, welfare benefits have increased faster than minimum wage. It’s now more profitable to sit at home and watch TV than it is to earn an honest day’s pay.

Hawaii is the biggest offender, where welfare recipients earn $29.13 per hour, or a $60,590 yearly salary for doing nothing.

Here is the list of the states where the pre-tax equivalent “salary” that welfare recipients receive is higher than having a job:

1. Hawaii : $60,590
2. District of Columbia :$50,820 l
3. Massachusetts : $50,540
4. Connecticut : $44,370
5. New York : $43,700
6. New Jersey : $43,450
7. Rhode Island : $43,330
8. Vermont : $42,350
9. New Hampshire 39,750
10. Maryland : $38,160
11. California : $37,160
12 Oregon : $34,300
13. Wyoming : $32,620
14. Nevada : $29,820
15. Minnesota : $29,350
16. Delaware : $29,220
17. Washington : $28,840
18. North Dakota : $28,830
19. Pennsylvania : $28,670
20. New Mexico : $27,900
21. Montana : $26,930
22. South Dakota : $26,610
23. Kansas: $26,490
24. Michigan : $26,430
25. Alaska : $26,400
26. Ohio : $26,200
27. North Carolina : $25,760
28. West Virginia : $24,900
29. Alabama : $23,310
30. Indiana : $22,900
31. Missouri : $22,800
32. Oklahoma : $22,480
33. Louisiana : $22,250
34 South Carolina : $21,910

Hawaii, DC, and Massachusetts pay more in welfare than the average working folks earn there. Is it any wonder that they stay home rather than look for a job.

Time for a drastic change ... Americans are not stupid .
Note that California is $18.50 an hour. Are we Nuts or what? How do we un-do this type of stupidity …

Now if you think that’s bad, read about these salaries:

Salary of retired United States Presidents $180,000 FOR LIFE!

Salary of House/Senate...$174,000 FOR LIFE!

This is beyond stupid!

Salary of Speaker of the House ..$223,500 FOR LIFE!

This is really stupid.

Salary of Majority/Minority Leader $193,400 FOR LIFE!
Ditto last line.

Average Salary of a teacher ... $40,065

Average Salary of Soldier DEPLOYED IN AFGHANISTAN .. $38,000 Think about this!

Nancy Pelosi will retire as a Congress Person at $174,000 Dollars a year FOR LIFE! She will retire as SPEAKER at $223,500 a year Plus she will receive an additional $193,400 a year for when she was Minority Leader, the fact that she has become rich while in office notwithstanding.

THAT IS $803,700 DOLLARS A YEAR FOR LIFE! [THAT IS $2,202 EACH DAY!] including FREE medical which is not available to us ... the taxpayers. She is just one of the hundreds of Senators and Congresspersons that float in and out of Congress every year!

I think we found where the cuts should be made!
If you agree ... please pass this on, I just did.

AND, can you imagine paying AOC these sums for life?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Ridiculous! One could get welfare, do some yard work or odd jobs for cash and make out pretty well. Add in food stamps and medicaid and well!

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Who wouldn't be aghast at those numbers

Yet, to TheBigp and Nwtk, for both your edifications, read the following...

https://www.record-eagle.com/opinion/fact-check-pelosi-will-not-earn-a-year-for-life/article_061c6e03-84a9-5e53-a452-05819e696100.html

What's obscene is that one can be continually amazed at the amount of nonsense that is posted without verification.

Of course, as Seinfeld's George Constanza used to say, "It's not a lie if you believe it."

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

I'm afraid your link won't allow their content to be read while in private mode. Hmm. Apparently that link wants to "verify" it's readers.

woodguru

Kelly Anne Conway said in an interview that if enough people believe something it becomes an alternative t***h. I almost broke my jaw when I heard her defend lies that way...that it becomes their t***h.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Are you saying the stated amounts of welfare are incorrect? I was not referring to the "salaries" for life of gov members. I'm pretty sure that is a myth.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

You should, before ranting this BS, admit that the president never said there are good w***e s*********ts/neo-n**is; he never said all Mexicans are murderers and rapists or animals; that he never banned Muslims from entering the country; etc; etc.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

No, I was responding to the bottom half of the post, concerning salaries for life of congressional members. In particular, as it was addressed in the link I provided, Nancy Pelosi.

As far as the link I provided being unavailable...pay your internet bill, Nwtk.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

The pertinent part of the link is as follows...

In honor of Congress’ second-worst approval rating in Gallup history, let’s keep this simple: Do congressional lawmakers earn their salaries “FOR LIFE? Would House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi get “$803,700 Dollars a year for LIFE including FREE medical”? No. And really, really, really, no.

We’ll break it down. Do congressional lawmakers earn their salaries “FOR LIFE?

Let’s turn to the nonpartisan research arm of Congress, the Congressional Research Service, which explains laws so even lawmakers can understand them.

Members of Congress earn their $174,000 salaries only during their elected terms. (Nope, not for life.)

They’re eligible for congressional pensions only after five years of service. (For a member of the House, that would mean getting elected to office at least three times.)

Those pensions can’t be tapped until retirement age — and can’t be collected while a lawmaker still gets a federal salary. So John Kerry, for example, can’t collect his congressional pension while he serves as secretary of state, according to Pete Sepp of the National Taxpayers Union.

The size of the pension depends on years of service and the average of a lawmaker’s highest three years of salary. The exact formula depends on when they started. Meanwhile, every paycheck, lawmakers contribute to both their pensions and Social Security.

Most congressional pensions are nowhere near a lawmaker’s salary. Under a pre-1984 retirement formula, it couldn’t be more than 80 percent of a lawmaker’s final salary, not counting cost-of-living adjustments. Under current rules, lawmakers could theoretically get more than 80 percent of their salary, but most would need to serve more than 66 years to get that.

Would House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi get “$803,700 Dollars a year for LIFE including FREE medical”?
The email writer gets a whole host of things wrong here.

The message claims Pelosi will retire as a member of Congress making $174,000 — and that she’ll earn it annually, for life, on top of her full speaker’s salary of $223,500 and minority leader’s salary of $193,400, for a whopping “$803,700 Dollars a year for LIFE including FREE medical.” Nope.

Congressional leaders do get paid more than other lawmakers. The speaker of the House earns $223,500. The House minority leader earns $193,400. That’s more than the $174,000 earned by the rank and file. But those are annual salaries that leaders earn while they hold their titles, not lifetime guarantees that get stacked on top of one another.

First, even if her pension did equal all three salaries, they add up to $590,900, not $803,700. (Unless perhaps the writer’s suggesting the “free medical” is worth $212,800 a year. Talk about rising health care costs!) Second, that’s not how it works. See above. Third, lawmakers don’t get “free medical.” They pay a portion of their health insurance premiums, co-pays and co-insurance and can face a deductible, just like a lot of workers with employer-based health care. In January, their employer-offered health insurance will be a choice of plans offered on Obamacare’s federal exchange.

Pelosi’s higher salary as House speaker from 2007-11 will boost her pension. But the congresswoman, who’s been in office since 1987, would have to work at least two more decades for her starting pension to match a regular lawmaker’s pay, much less $803,700. She’s 73.

And, oh, btw, lawmakers haven’t given themselves a pay raise since January 2009.

We’re not saying they’re earning their keep.

But perhaps it’ll make you feel slightly better that their salaries this year hit their lowest inflation-adjusted levels since December 1990. And that more than 200 of them were refusing pay while the government was closed.

Our ruling: A v***l message claims congressional lawmakers earn their salaries “FOR LIFE,” which for House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi would add up to “$803,700 Dollars a year for LIFE including FREE medical.”

Lawmakers don’t earn a salary after their terms end. They may earn pensions based on years of service, but those don’t start until retirement. They don’t get “free medical.”

It might feel good to click Forward. But it wouldn’t make this claim any less Pants on Fire.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

It continually works for me. But, I pay my bill.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Luckily, I don't pay the hospital's internet bill!

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Then, please don't ask me to do so.

On a serious note, are you currently in the hospital, and if so, may I ask what for

Even for occasional antagonists, such as yourself, I am always concerned for any OPPer's health. Presuming it is in the DFW area, would you tell me which hospital you are in Although I lost my appetite for big city traffic a number of years ago, maybe I can make it up there to visit & brighten your day

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Not "in," but "at."

Working, although a bit sporadically!

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Good For that, I am thankful.

That would suggest that you're healthy and can remain as contrary as you are prone to being.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

That would be me but thanks for the concern!