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Some want to do away with law enforcement personnel
Jan 4, 2020 11:48:07   #
ExperienceCounts
 
Ok, perhaps places with the most vocal support for doing away with police departments should allow their entire departments to be borrowed by the departments in other states for a month without any replacements or backup officers entering the city. Play it up big on the news as a social achievement before putting the policy in action.

The mayor states, "The proud city of xyz is proud to announce that your elected officials in the interest of the public good, diversity, and good relationships within our communities, that our town's police department is being reassigned for a period of 30 days so that our citizens can make an informed decision as to their effectiveness in our fair city. The matter of disbanding our police department will be put to a b****t v**e on Tuesday, month, year at your v****g precincts. <Smirk!>

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Jan 4, 2020 12:03:50   #
Dwight Logan
 
ExperienceCounts wrote:
Ok, perhaps places with the most vocal support for doing away with police departments should allow their entire departments to be borrowed by the departments in other states for a month without any replacements or backup officers entering the city. Play it up big on the news as a social achievement before putting the policy in action.

The mayor states, "The proud city of xyz is proud to announce that your elected officials in the interest of the public good, diversity, and good relationships within our communities, that our town's police department is being reassigned for a period of 30 days so that our citizens can make an informed decision as to their effectiveness in our fair city. The matter of disbanding our police department will be put to a b****t v**e on Tuesday, month, year at your v****g precincts. <Smirk!>
Ok, perhaps places with the most vocal support for... (show quote)

I believe they want have Sharia law take over. Not only that but I feel that they are involved with cartels and organized crime.
I believe it was Stalin who said that Russia would take over America without firing a shot. (Don't be afraid to correct me if it was not Stalin. So many people on this venue edifying us "of our Senior Decades not just moments." I wecome them)

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Jan 4, 2020 12:06:08   #
Kevyn
 
ExperienceCounts wrote:
Ok, perhaps places with the most vocal support for doing away with police departments should allow their entire departments to be borrowed by the departments in other states for a month without any replacements or backup officers entering the city. Play it up big on the news as a social achievement before putting the policy in action.

The mayor states, "The proud city of xyz is proud to announce that your elected officials in the interest of the public good, diversity, and good relationships within our communities, that our town's police department is being reassigned for a period of 30 days so that our citizens can make an informed decision as to their effectiveness in our fair city. The matter of disbanding our police department will be put to a b****t v**e on Tuesday, month, year at your v****g precincts. <Smirk!>
Ok, perhaps places with the most vocal support for... (show quote)
I have been a victim of several crimes, a couple were investigated and one prosecuted the theft of a good chain saw and old snowblower from a shed. The result was the guy possessing my stuff plus other stolen things pled to a felony and spent some time in jail, not prison. The far more serious crimes have to do with a company polluting groundwater effecting a well on property I own and no one was arrested for this or did a day in prison although the crime cost me many fold that of the missing tools. Banks deliberately c***t thousands of Americans out of their homes this has lead to the destruction of communities and crushed the value of countless other properties. Landlords consistently fail to maintain property in safe sanitary conditions as required by law and never see the inside of a cell. Companies knowingly hire undocumented residents to beat labor laws and pay sub standard wages and the workers are arrested while the business owners go free. No one wants to do away with the police, this is nonsense, but if we assigned half of them to investigate and prosecute white collar and corporate crime the people who can’t get justice for a landlord that screws them might, and when they see there is also justice for the man and he is held accountable rather than just them jammed up on some stupid quality of life charge like jumping a turnstile it would give them faith that they were part of a just justice system rather than its victim.

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Jan 4, 2020 12:23:24   #
ExperienceCounts
 
Kevyn wrote:
I have been a victim of several crimes, a couple was investigated and one prosecuted the theft of a good chain saw and old snowblower from a shed. The result was the guy possessing my stuff plus other stolen things pled to a felony and spent some time in jail, not prison. The far more serious crimes have to do with a company polluting groundwater affecting a well on the property I own and no one was arrested for this or did a day in prison although the crime cost me many-fold that of the missing tools. Banks deliberately c***t thousands of Americans out of their homes this has lead to the destruction of communities and crushed the value of countless other properties. Landlords consistently fail to maintain the property in safe sanitary conditions as required by law and never see the inside of a cell. Companies knowingly hire undocumented residents to beat labor laws and pay substandard wages and the workers are arrested while the business owners go free. No one wants to do away with the police, this is nonsense, but if we assigned half of them to investigate and prosecute white-collar and corporate crime the people who can’t get justice for a landlord that screws them might, and when they see there is also justice for the man and he is held accountable rather than just them jammed up on some stupid quality of life charge like jumping a turnstile it would give them faith that they were part of a just justice system rather than its victim.
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Is that statement below your post a signature or attachment?

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Jan 4, 2020 12:42:59   #
Cherokee38 Loc: Atlanta
 
Kevyn wrote:
I have been a victim of several crimes, a couple were investigated and one prosecuted the theft of a good chain saw and old snowblower from a shed. The result was the guy possessing my stuff plus other stolen things pled to a felony and spent some time in jail, not prison. The far more serious crimes have to do with a company polluting groundwater effecting a well on property I own and no one was arrested for this or did a day in prison although the crime cost me many fold that of the missing tools. Banks deliberately c***t thousands of Americans out of their homes this has lead to the destruction of communities and crushed the value of countless other properties. Landlords consistently fail to maintain property in safe sanitary conditions as required by law and never see the inside of a cell. Companies knowingly hire undocumented residents to beat labor laws and pay sub standard wages and the workers are arrested while the business owners go free. No one wants to do away with the police, this is nonsense, but if we assigned half of them to investigate and prosecute white collar and corporate crime the people who can’t get justice for a landlord that screws them might, and when they see there is also justice for the man and he is held accountable rather than just them jammed up on some stupid quality of life charge like jumping a turnstile it would give them faith that they were part of a just justice system rather than its victim.
I have been a victim of several crimes, a couple w... (show quote)

Key problem is the number of laws we have. Over 2 million!! Who can know all of them? They chose to enforce the ones they like. We have too much symphony for law breakers. Prison and jail are punishment areas and not for the comfort of prisoners. Air conditioning1? Prayer areas? Food based on religion? Why aren't prisons self supporting? You say it is cruel and inhuman yet you don`t want to be in prison in Mexico. It works! If you don`t like it don`t break laws that put you there. I also like China's caning for minor laws. First time one stroke with bamboo cane that brings blood. Second time doubles to 2 strokes, third time doubles to 4 strokes. Most do not get to 4 strokes. No jail time and no cost to public. We have a drug problem in the USA. China had one with opium. Because of the severity of their problem if you were caught with drugs regardless of t***sporting, using, or selling it Carrie's an automatic death sentence. The trial is quick and the penalty is carried out also quickly. Guess what, drugs are not a problem anymore. Do this here and watch the problem disappear.

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Jan 4, 2020 12:53:17   #
Kevyn
 
Cherokee38 wrote:
Key problem is the number of laws we have. Over 2 million!! Who can know all of them? They chose to enforce the ones they like. We have too much symphony for law breakers. Prison and jail are punishment areas and not for the comfort of prisoners. Air conditioning1? Prayer areas? Food based on religion? Why aren't prisons self supporting? You say it is cruel and inhuman yet you don`t want to be in prison in Mexico. It works! If you don`t like it don`t break laws that put you there. I also like China's caning for minor laws. First time one stroke with bamboo cane that brings blood. Second time doubles to 2 strokes, third time doubles to 4 strokes. Most do not get to 4 strokes. No jail time and no cost to public. We have a drug problem in the USA. China had one with opium. Because of the severity of their problem if you were caught with drugs regardless of t***sporting, using, or selling it Carrie's an automatic death sentence. The trial is quick and the penalty is carried out also quickly. Guess what, drugs are not a problem anymore. Do this here and watch the problem disappear.
Key problem is the number of laws we have. Over 2... (show quote)

So you want to trade our judicial system for that of red China? I hope not too many here agree with you.

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Jan 4, 2020 12:55:56   #
JoyV
 
Kevyn wrote:
I have been a victim of several crimes, a couple were investigated and one prosecuted the theft of a good chain saw and old snowblower from a shed. The result was the guy possessing my stuff plus other stolen things pled to a felony and spent some time in jail, not prison. The far more serious crimes have to do with a company polluting groundwater effecting a well on property I own and no one was arrested for this or did a day in prison although the crime cost me many fold that of the missing tools. Banks deliberately c***t thousands of Americans out of their homes this has lead to the destruction of communities and crushed the value of countless other properties. Landlords consistently fail to maintain property in safe sanitary conditions as required by law and never see the inside of a cell. Companies knowingly hire undocumented residents to beat labor laws and pay sub standard wages and the workers are arrested while the business owners go free. No one wants to do away with the police, this is nonsense, but if we assigned half of them to investigate and prosecute white collar and corporate crime the people who can’t get justice for a landlord that screws them might, and when they see there is also justice for the man and he is held accountable rather than just them jammed up on some stupid quality of life charge like jumping a turnstile it would give them faith that they were part of a just justice system rather than its victim.
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And how would doing away with current law enforcement improve the situation?

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Jan 4, 2020 13:43:26   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Kevyn wrote:
So you want to trade our judicial system for that of red China? I hope not too many here agree with you.


Sure, if enforcing the laws we have doesn't work.
Moot point isn't it.

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Jan 4, 2020 15:09:26   #
Kevyn
 
JoyV wrote:
And how would doing away with current law enforcement improve the situation?


No one is suggesting doing away with them but simply changing how they operate. Focus at least half the resources on going after the white collar and corporate crime that effects most of us. If it is worth arresting a shoplifter it is worth going after a landlord who c***ts a tenant or a bank that c***ts borrowers. If a poor person could go to the Police when they are ripped off and get results they wouldn’t think the police just hassled them. Also treating drug use as a social and medical rather than criminal problem makes a lot of sense.

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Jan 4, 2020 17:49:27   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Kevyn wrote:
No one is suggesting doing away with them but simply changing how they operate. Focus at least half the resources on going after the white collar and corporate crime that effects most of us. If it is worth arresting a shoplifter it is worth going after a landlord who c***ts a tenant or a bank that c***ts borrowers. If a poor person could go to the Police when they are ripped off and get results they wouldn’t think the police just hassled them. Also treating drug use as a social and medical rather than criminal problem makes a lot of sense.
No one is suggesting doing away with them but simp... (show quote)


Treatment programs are available and usually will reduce or eliminate sentence.

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Jan 5, 2020 16:49:05   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
ExperienceCounts wrote:
Ok, perhaps places with the most vocal support for doing away with police departments should allow their entire departments to be borrowed by the departments in other states for a month without any replacements or backup officers entering the city. Play it up big on the news as a social achievement before putting the policy in action.

The mayor states, "The proud city of xyz is proud to announce that your elected officials in the interest of the public good, diversity, and good relationships within our communities, that our town's police department is being reassigned for a period of 30 days so that our citizens can make an informed decision as to their effectiveness in our fair city. The matter of disbanding our police department will be put to a b****t v**e on Tuesday, month, year at your v****g precincts. <Smirk!>
Ok, perhaps places with the most vocal support for... (show quote)


And some guys want to have their balls cut off. Why? You'd have to ask them. The same thing would happen, that erection, say goodbye forever. What women would want a guy who uses a dildo because 'he' can't getthe job done? Same priciple, just brought to an easier to understand level.

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Jan 5, 2020 16:52:10   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
bilordinary wrote:
Sure, if enforcing the laws we have doesn't work.
Moot point isn't it.


I wouldn't have that much of a problem with it.

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Jan 5, 2020 18:44:39   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
ExperienceCounts wrote:
Ok, perhaps places with the most vocal support for doing away with police departments should allow their entire departments to be borrowed by the departments in other states for a month without any replacements or backup officers entering the city. Play it up big on the news as a social achievement before putting the policy in action.

The mayor states, "The proud city of xyz is proud to announce that your elected officials in the interest of the public good, diversity, and good relationships within our communities, that our town's police department is being reassigned for a period of 30 days so that our citizens can make an informed decision as to their effectiveness in our fair city. The matter of disbanding our police department will be put to a b****t v**e on Tuesday, month, year at your v****g precincts. <Smirk!>
Ok, perhaps places with the most vocal support for... (show quote)


No they're trying to Federalize our police system in this country I want to use the EU ends tactics so they can jail their enemies so we don't have a right to speak and also so they can confiscate our guns like they're trying to do in Virginia

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Jan 9, 2020 10:13:39   #
promilitary
 
I agree, we should do away with law enforcement for all those who don't want it.
Just make sure all police officers have a list of those people and their addresses so they
know they are not to respond if called.

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