woodguru

When excellent, or as trump says, perfect negotiations are going on, why would the president act in bad faith and not do everything possible to expedite the weapons the ukraine needed to defend it's eastern borders against russia?

That was not a rhetorical question...

This was not about concerns over corruption, and the notion that it was is ridiculous, as trump was wanting to know about about past corruption, which has nothing to do with or is no reason to withhold currently needed aid. The real reasons are what's relevant, and quite frankly trump did not and does not want to comply with our national security interests and aid our ally in ways that are against Putin's interest. Trump has pushed back against the house and senate multiple times where their national security interests indicate a need to reign Putin in with sanctions, and trump defies them in favor of his buddy Putin.

Trump was playing Zelensky like a cheap dictator, and his loyalties are with Putin.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

You still haven't figured it out yet! LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Radiance3

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Woody, you are putting up nonsense again. The president Trump made a policy, his rights to make that policy planned like that to work effectively. The weapons provided to Ukraine went on time as planned. That was why the Russians were halted attacking Ukraine.

Wood, these strategies were purposely made in such a period, and manner, to arrive at the most effective results. That decision was the right of the president. It is under his p**********l and executive power, his policy planned must be effectively enforced in order to arrive at the best results. And that was what happened. Russia was tamed and stopped attacking Ukraine because of that deterrent.

No one must dictate to the president his executive rights and policies, under his Executive Privileges.

Obama never provided Ukraine weapons. While president Trump acted effectively, and precisely on time to sending those weapons, halting all the aggression of Russia.
Now Ukraine is safe, and in peace all because of president Trump.

Radical Dems, what are you complaining about dumb bells?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Woody needs a Trump sticker on his car!!

Radiance3

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He, he, he, LOL!

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

At the very least, wouldn’t a well-functioning administration have vetted for corruption BEFORE offering military aid? Oh wait, our Pentagon did that!

archie bunker Loc: Texas

You have faith in, or believe in any of these bureaucracys because?

Rose42

Because we are taught to and continue to despite the fact that they keep failing us.

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

Well, if we can’t believe in our military then we have a bigger problem than I thought.

Radiance3

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That was the protocol that was needed to be done and it was done precisely on time by the president, prioritizing all the essential security measures, and was perfectly done on time, according to the desired results. Ukraine received the military aids to secure them from the Russia aggression. Brave and faithful president Trump. Thank you. I will support and defend you always.

woodguru

Nonsense...?
Trump does not get to set his own "policies" that run counter to the real and official policies that have been set by the state department and congress in terms of authorizing funding for urgently needed military aid. There is a law that he needs to follow that pertains to funding being disbursed as authorized, this law was created specifically from keeping presidents from doing this exact thing. The OMB, state department, and Pentagon saw blocks as violations, and a myriad of people were objecting through official channels. Meanwhile the administration, rather than comply with legal realities of doing these blocks through official channels, which would have required congress to be notified so they could set the president straight on national security interests, removed people who objected and replaced them with toadies who would follow illegal orders.

Obstruction and hiding the withholding of aid was as bad as doing it in the first place. You are as delusional as trump supporting the idea of unlimited powers, the house and senate runs the show in far more areas than trump seems to be aware of. Contrary to what you believe, trump does not set certain policies, he just goes along with them, his veto being the only remedy for policies he doesn't like. In this particular case he objected to the aid, and when he said he would veto it the senate let him know that he would be overridden. He chose not to go there, and instead illegally withheld the aid for months prior to getting busted by a whistleblower.

It is this ignorantly incorrect position that has the right and GOP headed down the road to allowing this president to violate the laws.

woodguru

What a crock... the only true thing you said there was the I will support and defend you always...you forgot the even if you are wrong and break the laws.

There was no protocol "that needed to be done"...what was it supposed to accomplish? It was an act from the past that had been corrected in multiple ways, new president, new prosecutor, changes to bank and oil board of directors. The farce of trump's excuse is that learning what went on with Biden's son was irrelevant, mainly because it had been well investigated and reported on by both the Ukraine and our intelligence services.

And by the way, Ukraine has still not received all of the aid...because it had been delayed for months already. And for you information Russian forces did overrun regions of the eastern ukraine, ukrainian forces were forced to withdraw, they had not received the anti tan weapons they would have needed to tear up on this attack.

Your brave and faithful trump has not shown any faith or support for the ukraine except when the house and senate jammed it down his throat, he has been more than faithful to Putin though, refusing to give the Ukraine anti tank weapons that would decimate putin's tanks The javelins that went out in 2017 came with the most i***tic restrictions imaginable, they cant be used at the border to repel russian mercenary forces using russian tanks.

Last week a document surfaced that showed Mulvaney saying they were worried about how putin would react to US military aid, that was prior to the invasion russia was massing troops and tanks for.

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

The river de Nile is a long one, and I urge you to cut your trip upon it short.

woodguru

What trump wanted to know about what happened back in 2016 had no current relevance to ongoing corruption, H****r was gone, the ukraine has a new president, they got rid of their corrupt prosecutor, Lev and Parnas were being investigated...there was nothing to be found that applied to the then currently desperately needed military aid.

The pentagon signed off that the military aid was going to properly be used, and that is satisfied by spending it on contracted goods and services.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

"Trump does not get to set his own "policies" that run counter to the real and official policies that have been set by the state department and congress in terms of authorizing funding for urgently needed military aid."

Yes, he does! Trump is commander in Chief. He can over ride ANYTHING those under his command are doing. If military funding is seen by the president to be contrary to his foreign policy, he can halt it. Period. He can use any form of aid as leverage to get other countries to do his bidding; thus Biden extorting Ukraine into firing Shokin was fine. What isn't fine there is what Biden was doding for Ukraine such that they would want to launder great sums of money to him through his son, H****r.