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Dec 23, 2019 02:00:11   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Parky60 wrote:
[Jesus said:] If the world h**es you, you know that it has h**ed Me before it h**ed you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world h**es you. John 15:18-19


Have to ask Parky...

Why would the world h**e its creator?

Just seems like a design flaw to me

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Dec 23, 2019 09:00:22   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
eden wrote:
Loyalty is admirable. Blind loyalty can make you, however unintentional, an enabler to malfeasance.


Like urs with the left

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Dec 23, 2019 09:01:42   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
woodguru wrote:
What about christians who are enabling p*******es, thieves, and liars?

Being a christian is supposed to have something to do with morals and integrity.


What about the l*****ts that make it a way of life by condoning it!

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Dec 23, 2019 09:03:56   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
woodguru wrote:
The world wants christianity to respect others, not be about hatred and bigotry. If you are a bigot keep it to yourself...then I don't care what you believe in.


The Bible tell about someone that is thought to b a fool, until they open their mouth and proves it! Close yours and have a merry Christmas! Hope u get a Bible in ur stocking !!

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Dec 23, 2019 09:04:44   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Parky60 wrote:
[Jesus said:] If the world h**es you, you know that it has h**ed Me before it h**ed you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world h**es you. John 15:18-19


Amen!

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Dec 23, 2019 09:22:16   #
debeda
 
Parky60 wrote:
Christianity Today is lying to its readers
I’ve long noticed that about the only time the mainstream media give positive coverage anymore to people of faith is when they can find someone who will attack other people of faith, or who will take the l*****t side in a political issue. So naturally, when the magazine Christianity Today, which was founded by the Rev. Billy Graham, published an editorial endorsing the impeachment and removal of President Trump, that got all kinds of media coverage. The editor even cited Graham’s name.

That fired up the Rev. Franklin Graham, who wrote: “Yes, my father Billy Graham founded Christianity Today; but no, he would not agree with their opinion piece. In fact, he would be very disappointed.” He said Christianity Today had moved to the left and “now represents the elitist liberal wing of evangelicalism.” He pointed out that no Republicans, many of whom are strong Christians, were convinced by the “evidence,” and neither were a couple of Democrats. He called the impeachment v**e “politically motivated, 100% partisan,” and said Trump has been a pro-life champion and a staunch defender of religious freedom.

He also revealed for the first time that his late father v**ed for Trump, believing him to be “the man for this hour in history for our nation.”

https://www.westernjournal.com/franklin-graham-issues-fiery-rebuttal-christianity-today-invoking-father-call-trumps-removal/

Now, I feel I would be remiss if I didn’t tell you the reason that Christianity Today gave for demanding Trump’s removal, so I will quote their editorial verbatim:

“But the facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral.”

My response: Weeks of the most partisan, r****d proceedings imaginable produced no evidence that Trump did that, beyond second- and third-hand hearsay. All of the principals (including the Ukrainian President Trump was allegedly pressuring) denied it. None of the alleged “witnesses” actually witnessed anything. The one person who claimed it was definitely true (and who turned out to be the poisoned well that was the source of all the other hearsay) folded like a garage sale card table under questioning, admitting that the one time he talked to Trump, Trump said the exact opposite and denied that he wanted any quid pro quo.

By claiming that the “facts are unambiguous” that Trump is guilty, Christianity Today is plainly lying to its readers. I find that to be profoundly immoral. Maybe they should drop the politics and get back to reading the Bible. If so, they might stumble across a line in Exodus that most of us know as the Eighth Commandment:

"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."

Mike Huckabee
December 21, 2019
b Christianity Today is lying to its readers /b ... (show quote)

Really like Mike Huckabee, he tells it like it os

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Dec 23, 2019 09:23:18   #
debeda
 
woodguru wrote:
What about christians who are enabling p*******es, thieves, and liars?

Being a christian is supposed to have something to do with morals and integrity.


Are you confusing Christians with proglibs again?

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Dec 23, 2019 09:23:53   #
debeda
 
Rose42 wrote:
The world wants Christians to be like they are where good is called evil and evil good.



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Dec 23, 2019 09:26:28   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Have to ask Parky...

Why would the world h**e its creator?

Just seems like a design flaw to me

What "world" is John talking about? He does not mean the world of creation. That is, the system and order found in the physical creation. This is the world God created for our enjoyment.

Nor is the world about which John speaks the world of humanity or mankind. We are told that "God so
loved the world." What world? The world of people, of human beings. "...God so loved the world (humanity), that he gave his only begotten Son..." (John 3:16).

Then what world does John mean? The Greek word for "world" here is kosmos. It means the world system. The organized system headed by Satan which leaves God out and is actually in opposition to Him.

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Dec 23, 2019 09:46:27   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Parky60 wrote:
What "world" is John talking about? He does not mean the world of creation. That is, the system and order found in the physical creation. This is the world God created for our enjoyment.

Nor is the world about which John speaks the world of humanity or mankind. We are told that "God so
loved the world." What world? The world of people, of human beings. "...God so loved the world (humanity), that he gave his only begotten Son..." (John 3:16).

Then what world does John mean? The Greek word for "world" here is kosmos. It means the world system. The organized system headed by Satan which leaves God out and is actually in opposition to Him.
What "world" is John talking about? He d... (show quote)


Thanks...

That makes sense...

Appreciation...

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Dec 23, 2019 12:04:20   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Parky60 wrote:
What "world" is John talking about? He does not mean the world of creation. That is, the system and order found in the physical creation. This is the world God created for our enjoyment.

Nor is the world about which John speaks the world of humanity or mankind. We are told that "God so
loved the world." What world? The world of people, of human beings. "...God so loved the world (humanity), that he gave his only begotten Son..." (John 3:16).

Then what world does John mean? The Greek word for "world" here is kosmos. It means the world system. The organized system headed by Satan which leaves God out and is actually in opposition to Him.
What "world" is John talking about? He d... (show quote)




The 'world' that John refers to is the world of Godlessness, the world of sin. Think of Lot keeping the angels from the crowd of sinners who wanted them for sex. Those sinners are the 'world'. Think of the rich man who turned away sadly when Jesus told him to sell all that he had and to follow him. His love of wealth is the 'world'. Think of the poor woman who gave only 2 mites, but it was all that she had. She was NOT part of the 'world' and is remembered to this day.
The 'world' of sinners h**e Christians as is being demonstrated right here on this thread. THAT'S the 'world' that John is talking about.

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Dec 23, 2019 14:29:05   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Parky60 wrote:
Christianity Today is lying to its readers
I’ve long noticed that about the only time the mainstream media give positive coverage anymore to people of faith is when they can find someone who will attack other people of faith, or who will take the l*****t side in a political issue. So naturally, when the magazine Christianity Today, which was founded by the Rev. Billy Graham, published an editorial endorsing the impeachment and removal of President Trump, that got all kinds of media coverage. The editor even cited Graham’s name.

That fired up the Rev. Franklin Graham, who wrote: “Yes, my father Billy Graham founded Christianity Today; but no, he would not agree with their opinion piece. In fact, he would be very disappointed.” He said Christianity Today had moved to the left and “now represents the elitist liberal wing of evangelicalism.” He pointed out that no Republicans, many of whom are strong Christians, were convinced by the “evidence,” and neither were a couple of Democrats. He called the impeachment v**e “politically motivated, 100% partisan,” and said Trump has been a pro-life champion and a staunch defender of religious freedom.

He also revealed for the first time that his late father v**ed for Trump, believing him to be “the man for this hour in history for our nation.”

https://www.westernjournal.com/franklin-graham-issues-fiery-rebuttal-christianity-today-invoking-father-call-trumps-removal/

Now, I feel I would be remiss if I didn’t tell you the reason that Christianity Today gave for demanding Trump’s removal, so I will quote their editorial verbatim:

“But the facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral.”

My response: Weeks of the most partisan, r****d proceedings imaginable produced no evidence that Trump did that, beyond second- and third-hand hearsay. All of the principals (including the Ukrainian President Trump was allegedly pressuring) denied it. None of the alleged “witnesses” actually witnessed anything. The one person who claimed it was definitely true (and who turned out to be the poisoned well that was the source of all the other hearsay) folded like a garage sale card table under questioning, admitting that the one time he talked to Trump, Trump said the exact opposite and denied that he wanted any quid pro quo.

By claiming that the “facts are unambiguous” that Trump is guilty, Christianity Today is plainly lying to its readers. I find that to be profoundly immoral. Maybe they should drop the politics and get back to reading the Bible. If so, they might stumble across a line in Exodus that most of us know as the Eighth Commandment:

"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."

Mike Huckabee
December 21, 2019
b Christianity Today is lying to its readers /b ... (show quote)


Maybe in its first year or two that rag was okay, but it started a decline to f**e news and now that the pope is a g*******t seems to feel anything goes. Sorry, not sorry.

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