RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Russia is sending mercenaries to front line LNA forces attacking Libyan Capital Tripoli, according to the Libyan Government of National Accord about 1,000 mercenaries, - the UAE is sending fighter jets and drones, - Chad is sending ground troops, many other African fighters are coming from the French African Sahel Region trained by the French Foreign Legion known as faceless soldiers as all recruits must assume a new name and give up all civil identity, - Egypt has become a tributary State of Saudi Arabia under Sisi and is politically supporting the LNA, while Saudi Arabia is bankrolling General Haftar with a blank cheque.

Putin also is very chummy with Prince Mohammed bin.Salman the q***r f*ggot Queen of Next Generation of Global Plutocracy, so what's up guys reveal your most revealing thoughts about who is the bad side and who is the good, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan has just got agreement from the World endorsed Libyan Government GBA to send Turkish Troops and defence capabilities, the GNA has control over all Libyan oil sales and all pumping operations are subject to GNA veto, there is no secessionist movement only a fight for survival.

If Trump find himself on the losing side US expulsion from the Middle East is most likely as Russia has established air superiority wherever it goes.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Why should we get involved?

Hug

We should buy a spectator ticket and hide and watch. We do not need the oil and we do not have a dog in that fight.

steve66613

We need to spend blood and treasure to be able to say we have air superiority 8,000 miles away.....why?

PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama

We can not and should not try to police the world. Hell, thanks to certain factions we can't police our own nation. It's a no win, stay out.

Liberty Tree

Agreed!

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

I think what the US does Australia follows, that's not good but it's the way it is, it would be nice for a change of the US was backing a winner, LNA can't win Haftar was rescued from a Chad prison 1987 with hundreds of his supporters by the CIA and taken to the US he will only ever be seen as a CIA puppet, if it was a invasion of Chad and not Haftar running from a failed c**p why would the CIA intervene.

Maybe I didn't make my point very well, after thinking about it I was fully expressing my Theological stand point opposed to Saudi Arabia and Z*****m being the outcome of Abranahic Religion, one practical consideration for US getting involved to support Turkey is too create a Libyan democrasy with the e******n process getting started.

Second reason is if Haftar takes Tripoli (130,000 people have fled the area) Russia becomes the king maker of OPEC, Russia is already in control of oil industry elsewhere, and US can't influence the LNA because Libya is Tribal much more so now than before, Haftar is seen as new king Idris, if GNA beats Haftar and goes on the offensive and takes over completely with US support Russia is still the winner only not as big.

Trump has only one chance to pull Western chessnuts out of the fire that is to support the legitimate GNA, Trump has to choose between Saudi Arabia and Turkey but Putin doesn't have too he's on both sides, and Trump choosing LNA will bankrupt influences successfully keeping the Muslim Brotherhood going in the diplomatic direction which wasn't such an easy task to get them to do that.

Also Netanyahu will be boiling if Trump supports the GNA, Netanyahu's base is all Russians.

What's the best example of being on everyone's side, besides Putin, - The Sermon on the Mount.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

I didn't say US should start bombing or sending troops that is unimaginabe and not any kind of obligation that I know of, the GNA today asked US Britain and France to support them against the renegade General Haftar who has laid seige to Tripoli that doesn't mean send troops it's more a request for gestures of support for GNA.

But technically it could be seen as a request for military support since Turkey is a NATO member and today the GNA today entered into agreement with Turkey to send troops that would include Qatar who is staunchly always supporting Turkey, these are regional players with every righ to defend Libya from Haftar.

Furthermore Oman along with Qatar represent a different foreign policy outlook for the Gulf Cooperation Council, the US has a recent history of turning it's back on allies, Mubarak Egypt, Salah Yemen, Ben Ali Tunisia, and Gadaffi of course who was celebrated in 2009 by the West often a Mustery Guest at Socialite Functions in Italy the leaders in the Middle East are suspect of the US and will flip on a dime and go with Russia

Qatar and Oman have vested interests in Iran this will push Trump to side with UAE and Saudi Arabia, so no one can stop Saudi Arabia and its toady Principalities sending their armies, but they are mostly docile and need a lot of helpers to get them through their days, decadence does that to people so does satan.

We all know and accept that Trump loves the King and won't send troops but the King could lose to a Turkish, Russian, Chinese, Pakistani, Iranian, Irish, Scottish, Argentine and South African influence in the Middle East, who knows who else maybe Germany, Turkey will be asking for this alignment of committed players if Turkey is shunned by Trump.

It's not something the US can walk away from because the US is already committed, Obama tried to walk but France and Britain got themselves into a pickle and Obama had to scurry back, Libya is his legacy.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

US is still importing oil, although a net exporter of oil, true but oil from fracking is not long lasting, nothing is, even Russia will pump its natural gas fields empty in 40 years, I guess something will come along before that green or black.

Molten lava oceans below the crust is moving the north pole at a faster rate to Canada from Siberia so nothing is constantly long term, personally the better seat we get depends on who we are, but the higher up we get the further to fall, or the sky might collapse, would it help if we all wore hard hats, not necessarily so, it could, as there would be sky kissers excusing themselves smashed of of their brain at least there is no pretence involved getting k**led in Libya, I might go there myself.
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dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Oil from fracking is not long lasting. Okay.

But the Natural gas is longer lasting then you think, and in Pennsylvania the natural gas reserves are three times the oil reserves the Saudis have. Natural gas is much cleaner than coal and oil. But 40 years from now there may be no need for any oil/natural gas for energy. However, are you aware of how many products come from petroleum that are used in our everyday lives? Thousands. There will be a need until cheaper alternatives can be developed. So you are probably guessing correctly that something else will come along. How many things do we have today that 40 years ago people couldn't even imagine?

Kevyn

To keep the Russian dictatorship in check.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Shale natural gas will I agree last for 100's of years but not oil from fracking wells so the US will always need to import oil, and that ties up with long term interests in the Middle East, that's what I'm saying Trump is burning US bridges if he is lining up behind General Haftar and will get nothing out of it, Haftar is fully bough by France and Russia, his support structures are anti US otherwise he's seen as a CIA puppet.

I know Trump's not subordinate to Hafta, Netanyahu is at the moment, but likely Trump will be pressured to comply by the CIA who really missed Haftar's bus but they're not go in to admit it.

Although Trump could go along with the NSA and do what they want, and Haftar could easily take over Libya completely, the GNA is asking Trump not to oppose Turkish support that will take at least 2 months getting passed by the Turkish Parliament.

King Salman supported the Brotherhood against Gadaffi but King Salman is 100% against GNA which isn't solely the Brotherhood any more.

The siege of Tripoli will be drawn out, its an on going issue, when Gadaffi lost Tripoli it was because British and French Special Forces were use to storm Tripoli, and the UAE had a Tank Battallion of mercenaries coming across the border from Tunisia, none of that is possible this time Tripoli will hold out and if Trump doesn't cave to the CIA then President Putin will for sure see the writing on the wall and dump Haftar, backing the winner is the name of the game in the Middle East, something the US should take into consideration.

Haftar has made deals with Putin and Macron and is already beholden to them both.

40 years from now, will be the water wars and not every one is going to make it, survival will depend on good relations, as partisan war has little restraining capabilities waged by people who have little to live for.

The end of the Techno Industrial Age means no new inventions have the ability to effect the TR Malthusian demographic prognosis for sexual restraint, where the geographic ratio in the geometric timeline becomes an ever more disastrous ratio of finite resources pitted against insatiable human wants.

Obama to his credit realised the t***h of what Malthus was on about but had no way to do anything about it, Obama was a CIA tool Trump is maybe not.

Lonewolf

Trump will do what Putin tells him

Hug

I sure hope so. If Putin has been supervising Trump, Putin is doing a great job. Just think how much better off we would be if Putin had been our President during those years Obama was kneeling on his rug.

Lonewolf

Come on hug Obama was a far better Christian than trump hell his pastor says he's never been to church!