son of witless

Speaker Nancy Pelosi is holding back the Impeachment Indictment from the Senate because she knows it will lose. So my question is, can she hold it back indefinitely and then present it at a much later date ? Right now Republicans hold the Senate and are united behind Trump, but that could change some day. What if Democrats were to take the Senate in 2020, could she submit the indictment in 2021 when it's chances are better ? What about after the 2022 Senate e******n ?

Does the indictment ever expire ?

Gatsby

180 days, from the date charged.

Dwight Logan

I don't know if the indictment ever expires but the damn process of impeachment farce has lasted for an eternity.

cbpat1

So that means there’s no way she could push it through the Senate after the e******n unless they impeached him a second time.

It seems unlikely that the democrats will win a majority in the Senate, in fact they stand a good chance of losing the House of Representatives because of the backlash of this impeachment debacle, so unless Nancy Pelosi totally loses her mind I don’t see them impeaching the President for a second time.

son of witless

I am trying to look at it as if I was a scum bag Democrat. What advantage is there in waiting ?

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Once indicted, there is no expiration date. It has happened, that phase is complete. President Trump joined the ranks of Johnson, Nixon and Clinton. Even if he is exonerated. Can she hold off indefinitely, no. The Constitution, 6th Amendment, Right to Speedy Trial, prevents such actions. A Senate petition to the Supreme Court, as they oversee the Senate trials on impeachment, can be submitted at a reasonable time. The Senate can determine the measure of "reasonable." Waiting more than 30 days can constitute "unreasonable." Depending on Senate, witness, or Chief Justice schedules. The court at that time will force her to go forward, or take action (censorship) at the House making a Senate hearing unnecessary.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Campaigning....

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

The only recourse, as I see it, is that Pelosi says she will wait until McConnell addresses how the Senate will proceed guaranteeing a fair trial. She could be waiting until long after she is out of office or dead. It ain't gonna happen. Trump and The Senate Republicans called her bluff so if she wants to move this forward she needs the indictment sent to the Senate sooner than later.

Too Long of a delay and Congress could expunge the impeachment record through parliamentary procedure and Senate rules because the Constitution makes no mention of a time frame that must be adhered to. Pelosi has been forced into an untenable situation by her party with no avenue by which to win. She may be shrewd politician but she is a terrible poker player because she is t***sparent when she tries to bluff.

This will ultimately be decided in November by the v**ers. Unless the Democrats immediately take the impeachment course of action, their only serious way to remedy their dislike for Trump will be to put forth a candidate who can beat Trump or they will otherwise be stuck with him for another term as President.

woodguru

Rather than make assumptions when you don't know what you are talking about, try to figure out if there may be a lot more going on, which there is.

The house has options, and there are strategies involved...
...Time does not favor McConnell here
...Trump is putting hard pressure on going fast and ending it, not to McConnell's favor
...Americans are favoring witnesses by 71%, time increases that as more people weigh in
...Trump thinks he wants Biden as a witness, Schumer would love that, McConnell knows better
...McConnell is making noise about no trial...totally unconstitutional

The optics on this are horrible, a large majority of the people want a fair trial without trump hiding anything. Perhaps you would be better informed if you found copies of the hearings, and perhaps a source that highlights the important parts for you. Trump gets k**led in a real trial, the only fear here is the GOP and McConnell, they don't want to touch a real trial, the evidence hammers every simple rhetorical defense they keep repeating. Dems have no fear of a real trial and the facts.

If the senate shuts this down the house will roll into the investigations that are still ongoing, they still do not have unredacted Mueller reports, and like here what is known is enough, the more they get that has been withheld the better the cases get.

woodguru

Yet this next year is going to be another eternity, the year will seem to fly by as the e******n draws nearer. The information that has been coming out the last week is adding pressure because more keeps coming out.

...Giuliani admitting yes he wanted Yovanovitch gone because she was in the way of an investigation into Biden
...Parnas being paid a million dollars by the oligarch wanted by the Ukraine for corruption, via Russia
...The story concocted by Giuliani came from Putin, and has been debunked by US intelligence, which was already reported to the GOP in intelligence committee hearings, yet they continue to lie about it.

If dems had nothing McConnell would d**g them through the mud on this, the t***h destroys trump

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

son of witless

Perhaps you could address the topic ? Piglosi is holding up Impeachment because it has zero chance of success in the Senate, unnerstand Sir ? Now in the future the Democrats could win control of the Senate and it would have a better chance. I want to know if she can delay it until after the e******n in the hope of that.

" The optics on this are horrible, a large majority of the people want a fair trial without trump hiding anything. Perhaps you would be better informed if you found copies of the hearings, and perhaps a source that highlights the important parts for you. "

The optics are horrible for you and yours. I and the majority of Americans do not give a little Obama about reading copies of the hearings. We assume Democrats have lied. WE DO NOT CARE, Period.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Expire? To me it's as if it never happened, no crime was found.

dcmdm77

It can be expire if and when the President pro temp of the Senate says so ie. Mitch Mcconnell or no later then 12-31-2019

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Thank you for settling all this. We can forgo the trial in the Senate and now lynch Donald Trump on your say so.