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Dec 16, 2019 18:39:29   #
Liberty Tree
 
Democrats want witnesses that they choose because they know they have not made a strong case for Trump's impeachment and removal from office. They are on a fishing expedition to try and find something really damaging. Forget the media polls because they have been oversampling Democtas. If the Democrats' internal polls were showing the American people strongly behind impeachment and removal they would not be asking for more witnesses. Forget all the talk about fairness because there is nothing that would change Schumer's or the other Democrats' h**e for Trump.

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Dec 16, 2019 19:23:09   #
son of witless
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Democrats want witnesses that they choose because they know they have not made a strong case for Trump's impeachment and removal from office. They are on a fishing expedition to try and find something really damaging. Forget the media polls because they have been oversampling Democtas. If the Democrats' internal polls were showing the American people strongly behind impeachment and removal they would not be asking for more witnesses. Forget all the talk about fairness because there is nothing that would change Schumer's or the other Democrats' h**e for Trump.
Democrats want witnesses that they choose because ... (show quote)


I think that Senate Republicans need to think of the Senate Hearings as a TV Show and they need to produce it to get maximum ratings and maximum benefits to the Republican Party. The Democrats TV Show, the House Impeachment hearings was a big flop. Nobody watched it. It was bad TV. Schiff the stiff was a lousy game show host.

The Senate should get their most photogenic Senators and let them run the hearings. Set up drama. Call Democrats you want to make look bad and mercilessly grill them, Perry Mason style. We are going into e******n season and this is free air time.

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Dec 16, 2019 19:34:19   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
son of witless wrote:
I think that Senate Republicans need to think of the Senate Hearings as a TV Show and they need to produce it to get maximum ratings and maximum benefits to the Republican Party. The Democrats TV Show, the House Impeachment hearings was a big flop. Nobody watched it. It was bad TV. Schiff the stiff was a lousy game show host.

The Senate should get their most photogenic Senators and let them run the hearings. Set up drama. Call Democrats you want to make look bad and mercilessly grill them, Perry Mason style. We are going into e******n season and this is free air time.
I think that Senate Republicans need to think of t... (show quote)


thats a really good idea be a thumbs up if they had gowdey there to push some buttons would love to see him and some of the really pissed off republicans run them over the coal

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Dec 16, 2019 19:51:36   #
son of witless
 
bggamers wrote:
thats a really good idea be a thumbs up if they had gowdey there to push some buttons would love to see him and some of the really pissed off republicans run them over the coal


Trump has experience with a popular TV show. He should appear on the show as the honored guest. Let him bait Schumer, make a fool of him. Granted it has risks and would be difficult to pull off, but they could hardly do worse than House Democrats. As I said before, it is soon e******n time, even for Senators, and this is free air time. Democrats have given Republicans a great opportunity.

Time to seize the opportunity. McConnel should be able to fix this so it makes Democrats look bad and Republicans look great, if he has to hire Hollywood Producers.

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Dec 16, 2019 20:03:00   #
teabag09
 
son of witless wrote:
I think that Senate Republicans need to think of the Senate Hearings as a TV Show and they need to produce it to get maximum ratings and maximum benefits to the Republican Party. The Democrats TV Show, the House Impeachment hearings was a big flop. Nobody watched it. It was bad TV. Schiff the stiff was a lousy game show host.

The Senate should get their most photogenic Senators and let them run the hearings. Set up drama. Call Democrats you want to make look bad and mercilessly grill them, Perry Mason style. We are going into e******n season and this is free air time.
I think that Senate Republicans need to think of t... (show quote)


I agree totally, the problem is that Christmas is next week and the trial should be put off until the Senate comes back from Holiday and they can run this thing for 5 or 6 weeks and putting all of the demoncrat witness' up there for the whole Country to see. The exposure of the soft underbelly of wrong doing, and I don't care if Repubs. are hit too, it would be devastating to the evil doers of both stripes. Mike

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Dec 16, 2019 20:14:57   #
son of witless
 
teabag09 wrote:
I agree totally, the problem is that Christmas is next week and the trial should be put off until the Senate comes back from Holiday and they can run this thing for 5 or 6 weeks and putting all of the demoncrat witness' up there for the whole Country to see. The exposure of the soft underbelly of wrong doing, and I don't care if Repubs. are hit too, it would be devastating to the evil doers of both stripes. Mike


The other benefit to Republicans is that Democrat P**********l Candidates will be sitting in Senate hearings instead of debates. Republicans can do to Democrats in the Senate, what Democrats pulled in the House. That is limit witnesses and all else the Democrats do. They, like the Democrats do not have to play fair.

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Dec 16, 2019 21:03:10   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
son of witless wrote:
Trump has experience with a popular TV show. He should appear on the show as the honored guest. Let him bait Schumer, make a fool of him. Granted it has risks and would be difficult to pull off, but they could hardly do worse than House Democrats. As I said before, it is soon e******n time, even for Senators, and this is free air time. Democrats have given Republicans a great opportunity.

Time to seize the opportunity. McConnel should be able to fix this so it makes Democrats look bad and Republicans look great, if he has to hire Hollywood Producers.
Trump has experience with a popular TV show. He sh... (show quote)


the last part of your name suits you

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Dec 17, 2019 09:06:53   #
son of witless
 
bggamers wrote:
the last part of your name suits you


More than someone like you can ever know.

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Dec 17, 2019 09:15:04   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
son of witless wrote:
More than someone like you can ever know.


do you not know the meaning of the word??? It means foolish and or stupid I googled it to make sure I wasn't mistaken

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Dec 17, 2019 09:26:34   #
son of witless
 
bggamers wrote:
do you not know the meaning of the word??? It means foolish and or stupid I googled it to make sure I wasn't mistaken


I know far more than you do about the word. I know the origin of the entire identity I have chosen. Then again I am not illiterate in English Literature as many are who post on OPP.

By the way, what is a bggamers ? I admit my total ignorance as to what one of those is.

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Dec 17, 2019 09:36:49   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
son of witless wrote:
I know far more than you do about the word. I know the origin of the entire identity I have chosen. Then again I am not illiterate in English Literature as many are who post on OPP.

By the way, what is a bggamers ? I admit my total ignorance as to what one of those is.


Just a name I like to play games like wow and hidden object at 68 I do things to keep my mind as active as I can was working full time till I fell at work and broke my ankle and had surgery.

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Dec 17, 2019 12:20:02   #
son of witless
 
bggamers wrote:
Just a name I like to play games like wow and hidden object at 68 I do things to keep my mind as active as I can was working full time till I fell at work and broke my ankle and had surgery.


I hope you can get back to work soon. I hope to not to have to work when I'm 68, but having the option is good. I changed fields and am working for far less money than I did previously. I am merely trying to hold off taking SS and money from my IRA as long as I can. I am close to my minimal goal, when I took this new job. I came close to quitting the first year many times, and again the money is less than my expenses.

The good news is it is getting easier and the money is glacially getting better. I won't name the union I'm in, but it is a major one and it sucks. I was in a different union previously and there is no comparison. Between union dues and the compulsory payments into the union run health care plan that I do not want, I figure that I work for 80% down to 66 % of my gross pay depending on the whims of the payroll Gods. One to one and a half days of every week I work go to pay taxes, union dues, and health care I can't get out of.

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Dec 17, 2019 12:57:26   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
son of witless wrote:
I hope you can get back to work soon. I hope to not to have to work when I'm 68, but having the option is good. I changed fields and am working for far less money than I did previously. I am merely trying to hold off taking SS and money from my IRA as long as I can. I am close to my minimal goal, when I took this new job. I came close to quitting the first year many times, and again the money is less than my expenses.

The good news is it is getting easier and the money is glacially getting better. I won't name the union I'm in, but it is a major one and it sucks. I was in a different union previously and there is no comparison. Between union dues and the compulsory payments into the union run health care plan that I do not want, I figure that I work for 80% down to 66 % of my gross pay depending on the whims of the payroll Gods. One to one and a half days of every week I work go to pay taxes, union dues, and health care I can't get out of.
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I've heard about unions they talk a good program but don't fill anyone in on the cost many places are fighting them to get out when people change jobs that don't have unions they still want their money up front so people are having to take them to court. My impression their vultures looking for a free meal. I feel for you I opted to get my s/s at 63 because I thought the government was going to go under and the only ones to get s/s would be the one already getting it. At first, the checks were small but after 66 since I continued to work my amount has steadily gone up. But since my income was over what it should have been they held my check for almost 2 years even though they held back my checks till June they said I owed them money and every time I went and questioned their amount sure enough 2 weeks later I would get a letter and the amount I owed went up when it reach 12,000.00 I shut my mouth. Unions are not the only vulture out there

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Dec 17, 2019 13:30:49   #
son of witless
 
bggamers wrote:
I've heard about unions they talk a good program but don't fill anyone in on the cost many places are fighting them to get out when people change jobs that don't have unions they still want their money up front so people are having to take them to court. My impression their vultures looking for a free meal. I feel for you I opted to get my s/s at 63 because I thought the government was going to go under and the only ones to get s/s would be the one already getting it. At first, the checks were small but after 66 since I continued to work my amount has steadily gone up. But since my income was over what it should have been they held my check for almost 2 years even though they held back my checks till June they said I owed them money and every time I went and questioned their amount sure enough 2 weeks later I would get a letter and the amount I owed went up when it reach 12,000.00 I shut my mouth. Unions are not the only vulture out there
I've heard about unions they talk a good program b... (show quote)


I think when you get to 66 and 2/3, full SS for me, you can earn as much as you want. I will be 64 soon and the longer I can push it off the more I will get, but unless I can soon get more hours and a higher rate of pay, soon I will be forced to go on SS and begin tapping my IRA. When I left my previous employer, they provided a financial advisor to cover the t***sition from 401k to IRA. I was used to making my own decisions and now he has me in a lot of things I can't follow.

I do not get the whole wage earnings limit SS subjects people who take SS early to. It sure as hell does not benefit the person. What does the government get out of it ? Whether you take a job or not they are paying you a set benefit. If they let you earn from another job as much as you want, you are paying SS tax on that wage which is more money into the fund. I don't get their logic.

To get back to unions. At my former union job I paid around 1 and half % . Now sometimes it is closer to 6%, and that included an initiation fee of several hundred dollars. But this is the job I chose, so who am I to whine ? I am partially living off of savings, but that can't last. Damn good thing I married for money instead of love decades ago.

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Dec 17, 2019 15:35:45   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
son of witless wrote:
I think when you get to 66 and 2/3, full SS for me, you can earn as much as you want. I will be 64 soon and the longer I can push it off the more I will get, but unless I can soon get more hours and a higher rate of pay, soon I will be forced to go on SS and begin tapping my IRA. When I left my previous employer, they provided a financial advisor to cover the t***sition from 401k to IRA. I was used to making my own decisions and now he has me in a lot of things I can't follow.

I do not get the whole wage earnings limit SS subjects people who take SS early to. It sure as hell does not benefit the person. What does the government get out of it ? Whether you take a job or not they are paying you a set benefit. If they let you earn from another job as much as you want, you are paying SS tax on that wage which is more money into the fund. I don't get their logic.

To get back to unions. At my former union job I paid around 1 and half % . Now sometimes it is closer to 6%, and that included an initiation fee of several hundred dollars. But this is the job I chose, so who am I to whine ? I am partially living off of savings, but that can't last. Damn good thing I married for money instead of love decades ago.
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your collection amount will be less but if you keep working and putting into s/s when you do retire you will receive your full benefits. one thing about doing that is you could cut back on hours and let your s/s fill the void might even consider a nonunion job where you can keep what you're busting your ass for and be able to dictate what hours you work wouldn't hurt to go talk to your s/s and look at your options me I thought what they held back was enough so I worked full time and overtime bad move on my part the s/s people would fill in the gaps and help you decide which avenues would be better as far as the guy and your money good luck with that

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