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Dec 15, 2019 15:06:47   #
PeterS
 
And anyone else notice that CC's are virtually devoid of empathy?



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Dec 15, 2019 15:11:40   #
woodguru
 
Quite frankly hard levels of religious orientation seems to come with harder levels of bias, of making biased decisions okay. I think this creates a situation where people who have toned down levels of religious convictions can be much more fair and unbiased because they aren't offending loyalties to beliefs that are contradictory.

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Dec 15, 2019 15:21:06   #
Tug484
 
woodguru wrote:
Quite frankly hard levels of religious orientation seems to come with harder levels of bias, of making biased decisions okay. I think this creates a situation where people who have toned down levels of religious convictions can be much more fair and unbiased because they aren't offending loyalties to beliefs that are contradictory.



You mean luke warm that gets spewed from God's mouth?

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Dec 15, 2019 15:40:39   #
Liberty Tree
 
PeterS wrote:
And anyone else notice that CC's are virtually devoid of empathy?


CC disaster relief groups are the first ones on the scene after natural disasters to feed, clothed, and rebuild. I do not see any of your ant-Christian bigoted groups there. Not only are you filled with h**e and bias you are also ignorant.

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Dec 15, 2019 15:51:27   #
Liberty Tree
 
woodguru wrote:
Quite frankly hard levels of religious orientation seems to come with harder levels of bias, of making biased decisions okay. I think this creates a situation where people who have toned down levels of religious convictions can be much more fair and unbiased because they aren't offending loyalties to beliefs that are contradictory.


Some, like you, try to post the opposite of what they really are and expose themselves as phonies.

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Dec 15, 2019 15:52:05   #
debeda
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
CC disaster relief groups are the first ones on the scene after natural disasters to feed, clothed, and rebuild. I do not see any of your ant-Christian bigoted groups there. Not only are you filled with h**e and bias you are also ignorant.



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Dec 15, 2019 15:56:54   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
PeterS wrote:
And anyone else notice that CC's are virtually devoid of empathy?

Title of thread: You don't need religion to have morals.

Just because you can tell right from wrong doesn't mean you have morals Pete.

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Dec 15, 2019 16:00:39   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
woodguru wrote:
Quite frankly hard levels of religious orientation seems to come with harder levels of bias, of making biased decisions okay. I think this creates a situation where people who have toned down levels of religious convictions can be much more fair and unbiased because they aren't offending loyalties to beliefs that are contradictory.

Tell me woody, which of my beliefs are contradictory?

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Dec 15, 2019 16:09:05   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
And anyone else notice that CC's are virtually devoid of empathy?
No, I haven't noticed that CCs are virtually devoid of empathy.


What is Empathy?

The term “empathy” is used to describe a wide range of experiences. Emotion researchers generally define empathy as the ability to sense other people’s emotions, coupled with the ability to imagine what someone else might be thinking or feeling.

Contemporary researchers often differentiate between two types of empathy: “Affective empathy” refers to the sensations and feelings we get in response to others’ emotions; this can include mirroring what that person is feeling, or just feeling stressed when we detect another’s fear or anxiety. “Cognitive empathy,” sometimes called “perspective taking,” refers to our ability to identify and understand other people’s emotions. Studies suggest that people with autism spectrum disorders have a hard time empathizing.

Empathy seems to have deep roots in our brains and bodies, and in our evolutionary history. Elementary forms of empathy have been observed in primates, in dogs, and even in rats. Empathy has been associated with two different pathways in the brain, and scientists have speculated that some aspects of empathy can be traced to mirror neurons, cells in the brain that fire when we observe someone else perform an action in much the same way that they would fire if we performed that action ourselves. Research has also uncovered evidence of a genetic basis to empathy, though studies suggest that people can enhance (or restrict) their natural empathic abilities.

Having empathy doesn’t necessarily mean we’ll want to help someone in need, though it’s often a vital first step toward compassionate action.


It is a shame that you and your secular humanist comrades have succumbed to postmodernist philosophies regarding language, logic and morals.

Postmodern philosophy is a deliberate repudiation of certain 18th-century Enlightenment values. Such a postmodernist believes that there is no objective natural reality, and that logic and reason are mere conceptual constructs that are not universally valid. Two other characteristic postmodern practices are a denial that human nature exists, and a (sometimes moderate) skepticism toward claims that science and technology will change society for the better. Postmodernists also believe there are no objective moral values. A postmodernist then tolerates multiple conceptions of morality, even if he or she disagrees with them subjectively. Postmodern writings often focus on deconstructing the role that power and ideology play in shaping discourse and belief. Postmodern philosophy shares ontological similarities with classical skeptical and relativistic belief systems.

Postmodern Philosophy
Postmodern Ethics
Postmodern Science
Postmodern Psychology

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Dec 15, 2019 16:17:50   #
Iliamna1
 
PeterS wrote:
And anyone else notice that CC's are virtually devoid of empathy?


But you do need a faith in Jesus Christ to be saved. You can' obtain salvation through knowing right from wrong or by having empathy. ONLY by personally believing that Jesus died and paid for your sin can save you.

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Dec 15, 2019 19:12:11   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
PeterS wrote:
And anyone else notice that CC's are virtually devoid of empathy?


Religion? No.. Certainly not.... Manmade construct.. Quite messy and rather contradictory, for the most part...

You're born with your morals... A divine spark that is nurtured and brought to life via the experiences you endure...

Empathy? I will admit to having trouble with it... On a very personal level I struggle to view others through any glass but my own...

Plenty of CC's have empathy though... This tendency of yours to generalize is rather disappointing...

Also... There is a world of difference between "empathy" and "virtue signalling"...

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Dec 15, 2019 19:13:44   #
debeda
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Religion? No.. Certainly not.... Manmade construct.. Quite messy and rather contradictory, for the most part...

You're born with your morals... A divine spark that is nurtured and brought to life via the experiences you endure...

Empathy? I will admit to having trouble with it... On a very personal level I struggle to view others through any glass but my own...

Plenty of CC's have empathy though... This tendency of yours to generalize is rather disappointing...

Also... There is a world of difference between "empathy" and "virtue signalling"...
Religion? No.. Certainly not.... Manmade constr... (show quote)


Try seeing others as children. It helps take you out of yourself

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Dec 15, 2019 19:18:33   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
debeda wrote:
Try seeing others as children. It helps take you out of yourself


Chuckle....

Children I get...

It's adults that are difficult...

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Dec 15, 2019 19:22:43   #
debeda
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Chuckle....

Children I get...

It's adults that are difficult...


No, I mean look at them as children. You know, the innocence, excitement about life, etc. It won't make you like their current actions, but may help you build empathy if you want it.

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Dec 15, 2019 19:50:20   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
debeda wrote:
No, I mean look at them as children. You know, the innocence, excitement about life, etc. It won't make you like their current actions, but may help you build empathy if you want it.


Ah...

Will have to think about it...

Lind of like my biases

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