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Will all Democrats V**e for Impeachment?
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Dec 10, 2019 18:33:08   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Initially, only 2 v**ed against impeachment. Now that number has grown by at least 10.....they propose "censoring" the President. This is an interesting option, allowing the Democrats a 'face saving' option. But, they would need to have 6 more supporters to k**l the impeachment. IMO, not a choice of congressmen who have skeletons in their closest which others may know about.

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Dec 10, 2019 18:51:25   #
Carol Kelly
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Initially, only 2 v**ed against impeachment. Now that number has grown by at least 10.....they propose "censoring" the President. This is an interesting option, allowing the Democrats a 'face saving' option. But, they would need to have 6 more supporters to k**l the impeachment. IMO, not a choice of congressmen who have skeletons in their closest which others may know about.


As they see the prospect of returning home for good, they may v**e their conscience.

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Dec 10, 2019 18:53:59   #
Liberty Tree
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Initially, only 2 v**ed against impeachment. Now that number has grown by at least 10.....they propose "censoring" the President. This is an interesting option, allowing the Democrats a 'face saving' option. But, they would need to have 6 more supporters to k**l the impeachment. IMO, not a choice of congressmen who have skeletons in their closest which others may know about.


There is no Constitutional provision that allows Congress to censure the President. But then, Democrats never let a little thing like the Constitution get in their way. You know they are counting v**es right now.

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Dec 10, 2019 18:56:08   #
woodguru
 
Will any republicans v**e to uphold their oath to uphold the constitution?

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Dec 10, 2019 19:06:55   #
Liberty Tree
 
woodguru wrote:
Will any republicans v**e to uphold their oath to uphold the constitution?


They will by v****g no.

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Dec 10, 2019 19:24:32   #
jeff smith
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Initially, only 2 v**ed against impeachment. Now that number has grown by at least 10.....they propose "censoring" the President. This is an interesting option, allowing the Democrats a 'face saving' option. But, they would need to have 6 more supporters to k**l the impeachment. IMO, not a choice of congressmen who have skeletons in their closest which others may know about.


I think that some dem's will v**e NO and quit a bit more than bug eyed Schiff , pransy nancy and the humpty dumpty guy would ever think possible .

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Dec 10, 2019 19:47:43   #
PeterS
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Initially, only 2 v**ed against impeachment. Now that number has grown by at least 10.....they propose "censoring" the President. This is an interesting option, allowing the Democrats a 'face saving' option. But, they would need to have 6 more supporters to k**l the impeachment. IMO, not a choice of congressmen who have skeletons in their closest which others may know about.

Oh come now, Trump has more skeletons in his closet than all of Congress together. If no one cares about Trump's skeletons certainly no one is going to care about a lowly congressperson...and if Nancy didn't think she had the v**es she never would have pressed for impeachment. Congress is going to do its job. That the Senate won't do theirs is going to be on them...

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Dec 10, 2019 20:11:36   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
There is no Constitutional provision that allows Congress to censure the President. But then, Democrats never let a little thing like the Constitution get in their way. You know they are counting v**es right now.


You are correct, a censure of the President is clearly not part of Congress’ express authority to “punish” its own members or the President (Article I, Section 5, clause 2), nor would it be in most cases within the inherent contempt powers of legislatures to protect the dignity, privileges and proceedings of the institution and its Members. Rather, a “censure” has been and would most likely be in the nature of “sense of the Congress,” or sense of the Senate or House, resolutions which have developed in congressional practice as vehicles to state opinions or facts in non-binding, nonlegislative instruments.

Having said that, there is precedence for censorship. Andrew Jackson in 1834, although expunged in 1837 by the Senate and two actions of the House (Tyler in 1842 and Buchanan in 1860) may be categorized in a broad definition of a congressional "censure" of a President.

Theoretically it is possible for an agreement to be reached between the President and the Congress for the President to voluntarily “accept” a congressional statement, suggestion and/or direction concerning particular restitution or other act of contrition, and not to challenge the authority or constitutionality of any
such legislative statement or act. Minus an agreement, if the House elects censorship, the President could sue and base his actions on the unconstitutional actions. It would be an interesting case.

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Dec 10, 2019 20:37:26   #
teabag09
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Initially, only 2 v**ed against impeachment. Now that number has grown by at least 10.....they propose "censoring" the President. This is an interesting option, allowing the Democrats a 'face saving' option. But, they would need to have 6 more supporters to k**l the impeachment. IMO, not a choice of congressmen who have skeletons in their closest which others may know about.


I'm hoping they impeach him and the Senate does a trial so people can be brought in and made to testify UNDER OATH. I believe that will bring a whole bunch of cockroaches out of the dark and into the light. There are a bunch of folks who are quaking in their shoes at this point. Seems to me the democrats are painting themselves into a corner. I pray the Republican have enough spine to push this forward because if they don't this time they are toast in my book. Mike

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Dec 10, 2019 21:10:50   #
maryjane
 
Nadler saying that impeachment is because the president puts himself above the country is epic hypocrisy. We all know the Congress, both parties, both chambers put their best interests above all else especially the country and ordinary citizens.

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Dec 11, 2019 07:35:39   #
debeda
 
Pennylynn wrote:
You are correct, a censure of the President is clearly not part of Congress’ express authority to “punish” its own members or the President (Article I, Section 5, clause 2), nor would it be in most cases within the inherent contempt powers of legislatures to protect the dignity, privileges and proceedings of the institution and its Members. Rather, a “censure” has been and would most likely be in the nature of “sense of the Congress,” or sense of the Senate or House, resolutions which have developed in congressional practice as vehicles to state opinions or facts in non-binding, nonlegislative instruments.

Having said that, there is precedence for censorship. Andrew Jackson in 1834, although expunged in 1837 by the Senate and two actions of the House (Tyler in 1842 and Buchanan in 1860) may be categorized in a broad definition of a congressional "censure" of a President.

Theoretically it is possible for an agreement to be reached between the President and the Congress for the President to voluntarily “accept” a congressional statement, suggestion and/or direction concerning particular restitution or other act of contrition, and not to challenge the authority or constitutionality of any
such legislative statement or act. Minus an agreement, if the House elects censorship, the President could sue and base his actions on the unconstitutional actions. It would be an interesting case.
You are correct, a censure of the President is cle... (show quote)


Very interesting, thanks for the info. Can the People censure Congress? I think a lot of people are and have been fed up with Congress long before President Trump.

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Dec 11, 2019 12:32:41   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
teabag09 wrote:
I'm hoping they impeach him and the Senate does a trial so people can be brought in and made to testify UNDER OATH. I believe that will bring a whole bunch of cockroaches out of the dark and into the light. There are a bunch of folks who are quaking in their shoes at this point. Seems to me the democrats are painting themselves into a corner. I pray the Republican have enough spine to push this forward because if they don't this time they are toast in my book. Mike


So agree with you on this!

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Dec 11, 2019 12:41:09   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
debeda wrote:
Very interesting, thanks for the info. Can the People censure Congress? I think a lot of people are and have been fed up with Congress long before President Trump.


No, the people show their displeasure by v****g them out of office.

In legal terms, it is an Admonishment. It is commonly defined in modern parlance to mean: “The formal
resolution of a legislative, administrative, or other body reprimanding a person, normally one of its own members, for specified conduct.” Authority is in the Constitution, Article I, Section 5, clause 2, for each House of Congress to “punish” one of its own Members. In a roundabout way, I am saying that a member of Congress who is offended, or sees miscarriage of justice, or inflammatory language can put a motion to censor a member. The most recent was a motion to censor one of the "five", I think it was Omar for her anti-Semitic rants. Of course it was v**ed down by the majority and instead the House v**ed for a rule to "guard the tongue" which prevents the disparagement of muslims.

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Dec 11, 2019 15:44:25   #
I.R. Wayright
 
"Oh come now, Trump has more skeletons in his closet than all of Congress together."

How many does Hillary Clinton have? What was the body count up to last week? 56? 57?
When you run a candidate like her, Trump's skeletons are irrelevant.

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Dec 11, 2019 16:30:47   #
debeda
 
Pennylynn wrote:
No, the people show their displeasure by v****g them out of office.

In legal terms, it is an Admonishment. It is commonly defined in modern parlance to mean: “The formal
resolution of a legislative, administrative, or other body reprimanding a person, normally one of its own members, for specified conduct.” Authority is in the Constitution, Article I, Section 5, clause 2, for each House of Congress to “punish” one of its own Members. In a roundabout way, I am saying that a member of Congress who is offended, or sees miscarriage of justice, or inflammatory language can put a motion to censor a member. The most recent was a motion to censor one of the "five", I think it was Omar for her anti-Semitic rants. Of course it was v**ed down by the majority and instead the House v**ed for a rule to "guard the tongue" which prevents the disparagement of muslims.
No, the people show their displeasure by v****g th... (show quote)


So Maxine trying to incite violence got nothing. Good grief, the inmates are running the asylum

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