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Dec 6, 2019 17:47:39   #
elledee
 
permafrost wrote:
As usual, you right wingers only echo the lies told to you by the trash press..

facts...

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/did-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act-pay-itself-2018

Did the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act Pay for Itself in 2018?


Were you surprised that the 2017 tax overhaul, commonly referred as the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), did not increase revenues in 2018? Probably not, but several prominent conservatives, including Republicans in the House and Senate, former Reagan economist Art Laffer, and members of the Trump Administration, would be disappointed if they looked at the data. They have repeatedly claimed that TCJA either increased revenues or will pay for itself.

In principle, a tax cut could “pay for itself” if it spurred substantial economic growth. Revenues would rise from the combination of higher wages and hours worked, greater investment returns, and larger corporate profits. Under this scenario, that “dynamic” effect would more than offset the entire “static” revenue loss of the tax cut.

TCJA, however, is not that tax cut. While some TCJA supporters are touting that nominal revenues were higher in fiscal year (FY) 2018 than in FY2017, that comparison does not address the question of TCJA’s effects. Nominal revenues rise because of inflation and economic growth. Adjusted for inflation, total revenues fell from FY2017 to FY2018 (Figure 1). Adjusted for the size of the economy, they fell even more.

The most appropriate test of the revenue impact of TCJA is to compare (a) actual revenues in FY2018 with (b) predicted revenues in FY2018 assuming Congress had not passed the legislation. In fact, the actual amount of revenue collected in FY2018 was significantly lower than the Congressional Budget Office (CBO)’s projection of FY2018 revenue from January 2017—before the tax cuts were signed. The shortfall is $275 billion, or 7.6 percent of revenues that were expected before the tax cuts took place. Given that the economy grew, unless one can find some other change that caused a large revenue loss, the data imply that TCJA reduced revenues (Figure 1) – substantially.
As usual, you right wingers only echo the lies tol... (show quote)


gaming the numbers better than ovomit....impressive

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Dec 6, 2019 19:54:31   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Tug484 wrote:
Yeah, but I didn't expect much more from a kid named Rufus.
Who names a kid that?
His dad's name was Rufus.


Rufus?

Harsh...

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Dec 6, 2019 20:01:38   #
Tug484
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Rufus?

Harsh...


Yeah. I went to a Halloween party one night and took my camera.
Rufus the dad kept bugging me to take his picture.
I kept telling him no, you'll break my camera.
I finally took his picture and guess what?
My camera broke.
It never worked again.

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Dec 6, 2019 20:05:22   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Tug484 wrote:
Yeah. I went to a Halloween party one night and took my camera.
Rufus the dad kept bugging me to take his picture.
I kept telling him no, you'll break my camera.
I finally took his picture and guess what?
My camera broke.
It never worked again.


WHAT?

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Dec 6, 2019 20:21:40   #
Tug484
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
WHAT?


Honest.
It was a camera that came out that was thin and held a disc.
It was a great camera.
I took a picture of him and it never worked again.
He fit his name.
He was so ugly he didn't wear a costume and didn't need one.

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Dec 8, 2019 00:03:09   #
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woodguru wrote:
Last I'd heard dems want to tax wealthy people, not working people, the taxes dems want to impose on people will not affect normal people, the ones they will affect can afford all the kid's desks and college educations they want.

You apparently are part of those too ignorant to follow the facts instead of the RW rhetorical talking points.


Your head really is made out of wood if you think the Dems are only going to gouge the rich. How did you ever pass middle school math? Taxing rich people until they are poor will only bring in about 30% of the money the l*****ts need to fund their programs; the rest must come from the middle class. Most of the wealth is in the middle class (about 60%) and if you want money you need to go to the well where the money is. The poor have no wealth and the rich don't have nearly enough.

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