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Dec 4, 2019 19:34:40   #
rumitoid
 
(Donald Trump has done a few good things. For a president who seems to literally be unable to stop lying, Trump actually has a good record keeping campaign promises. According to Politifact, who kept a similar record for Obama, Trump has kept in some form or is working on more than half of the promises made on the campaign trail. How did Obama fare on Promises? See https://www.politifact.com/t***h-o-meter/article/2017/jan/05/tracking-obamas-top-25-campaign-promises/)

To be clear, he’s done mostly bad ones. He’s more personally corrupt than Chester A. Arthur, more surrounded by criminals than Ulysses S. Grant, and more shamelessly duplicitous than Richard Nixon. I believe the only reason we have not seen a national catastrophe costing tens of thousands of lives is due to sheer luck and the incredible incompetence that wafts from the White House like the lingering odor of reheated Big Macs.

Asking fans of Trump what good he’s done tends to result in nebulous, emotional benefits that tie into nationalism, patriarchy, and w***e s*******y. This list is none of those. It’s just a record-keeping article illustrating what good he has managed to do. As a judge takes cooperation of a state witness into consideration before pronouncing a sentence, so should these be in the barrel.

1. Household incomes are rising and the unemployment rate is at a half-century low.

Trump: “Unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate in 51 years.” True!

The unemployment rate has fallen to half-century lows in recent years. It was 3.6 percent in October — matching the lowest rate since 1969. So that’s actually 50 years. The president was off by a year, but broadly correct about the historic nature of the low rate.

Then he spoils this favorable point by lying about the WTO, saying that we are winning cases for the first time. Totally false. Our winning percentage rate over decades is 91%
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/us/politics/fact-check-trump-economy.html

2. Prison Reform

(I posted a favorable thread on the president for this action, finding it remarkable.)

It seems like a joke that a president under so many criminal investigations would be for prison reform and the betterment of the incarcerated, but he is. Trump has actually moved the needle quite a bit regarding our terrible prison system. The First Step Act may be, appropriately, just a nudge in the right direction, but it is undeniably movement. Among its initiatives are expansion of earned-time credits, more chances for prisoners to slowly t***sition from prison to society through halfway homes, time off sentences for vocational achievements, and better approaches to mandatory sentencing that retroactively reduce drug sentences of ridiculous length. Let’s also not forget he personally granted clemency to Alice Johnson, a 63-year-old woman who had been serving time for a drug charge since 1996.

3. Gun Control

After the NRA spent years saying Barack Obama’s gun confiscation was right around the corner (and thereby increasing gun sales to an all-time high), it’s somewhat ironic that Trump has embraced gun control in small ways. His administration used powers already granted to the justice department to ban bump stocks, the accessories that allow semi-automatic rifles to mimic automatic ones. The shooter in the 2017 Las Vegas massacre, which remains the deadliest mass shooting in United States history so far, used one in his attack. He’s unfortunately vowed to veto an expansion of background checks passed by the House this year, but there’s no getting around that he did eliminate one of the tools of mayhem with a single pen stroke.

4. Salary Donation

One of those promises was that he would donate his p**********l salary rather than keep it, and every year he has done exactly that. He has gifted his entire paycheck to various places since assuming office, including the National Park Service, the U.S. Education Department, the T***sportation Department, the Department of Health and Human Services, and the Department of Veterans Affairs. My personal favorite was him sending $100,000 to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, which he did in memory of his older brother, Fred’s, fatal struggles with booze.

5. Union Representation

He favors it!

Every time the words “Trump” and “treaty” are in the news it’s safe to assume that something horrible is going to happen, but there is one instance in which an incredible benefit was the result. The trade deal his administration made with Mexico and Canada came with the caveat that Mexico would overhaul its labor laws. They did so, and part of the new set of laws that just passed gave workers the right to collective bargaining. Previously NAFTA helped keep unionization out of Mexico as U.S. companies sought cheap labor there. The new deal, USMCA, seeks to de-incentivize moving jobs beyond the southern border by improving the lot of Mexican workers. This is a huge move to combat bad practices by corporations eager to save money at labor’s expense outside of the United States.

6. HIV/AIDS Relief

That one is truly remarkable, though just an initiative.

This one is admittedly a proposal rather than a done deed, but I feel it’s worth mentioning. Trump has set forth a bold new plan regarding HIV/AIDS in America, which is refreshing considering how many people his party directly k**led by ignoring the AIDS crisis in the ‘80s. The thing I find interesting about the proposal is how seriously it takes the poverty aspect of the disease’s presence in America. The goal is to have a 90 percent reduction in ten years as well as get people on drugs that stabilize the disease in order to improve their quality of life. Particular focus is placed on rural areas, which have received less attention.

There are some downsides. Experts feel the proposed $291 million budget will be insufficient, not to mention that the massive undertaking will take dedicated cooperation between federal, state, and local government. Also, turning our eye home has lessened resources slated to go to fighting AIDS abroad, but you’ll have to solve that particular Trolley Problem for yourself.

None of these examples are meant to excuse the many terrible things done in the two-year decade that has been the Trump Era. He continues to wage war against marginalized people, place grifters in power, fan white nationalism, and enrich himself through his position. He’s not a good president.

But even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally.
https://www.houstonpress.com/news/texans-beat-patriots-28-22-in-monumental-victory-11390157

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Dec 4, 2019 20:10:57   #
son of witless
 
rumitoid wrote:
(Donald Trump has done a few good things. For a president who seems to literally be unable to stop lying, Trump actually has a good record keeping campaign promises. According to Politifact, who kept a similar record for Obama, Trump has kept in some form or is working on more than half of the promises made on the campaign trail. How did Obama fare on Promises? See https://www.politifact.com/t***h-o-meter/article/2017/jan/05/tracking-obamas-top-25-campaign-promises/)

To be clear, he’s done mostly bad ones. He’s more personally corrupt than Chester A. Arthur, more surrounded by criminals than Ulysses S. Grant, and more shamelessly duplicitous than Richard Nixon. I believe the only reason we have not seen a national catastrophe costing tens of thousands of lives is due to sheer luck and the incredible incompetence that wafts from the White House like the lingering odor of reheated Big Macs.

Asking fans of Trump what good he’s done tends to result in nebulous, emotional benefits that tie into nationalism, patriarchy, and w***e s*******y. This list is none of those. It’s just a record-keeping article illustrating what good he has managed to do. As a judge takes cooperation of a state witness into consideration before pronouncing a sentence, so should these be in the barrel.

1. Household incomes are rising and the unemployment rate is at a half-century low.

Trump: “Unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate in 51 years.” True!

The unemployment rate has fallen to half-century lows in recent years. It was 3.6 percent in October — matching the lowest rate since 1969. So that’s actually 50 years. The president was off by a year, but broadly correct about the historic nature of the low rate.

Then he spoils this favorable point by lying about the WTO, saying that we are winning cases for the first time. Totally false. Our winning percentage rate over decades is 91%
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/us/politics/fact-check-trump-economy.html

2. Prison Reform

(I posted a favorable thread on the president for this action, finding it remarkable.)

It seems like a joke that a president under so many criminal investigations would be for prison reform and the betterment of the incarcerated, but he is. Trump has actually moved the needle quite a bit regarding our terrible prison system. The First Step Act may be, appropriately, just a nudge in the right direction, but it is undeniably movement. Among its initiatives are expansion of earned-time credits, more chances for prisoners to slowly t***sition from prison to society through halfway homes, time off sentences for vocational achievements, and better approaches to mandatory sentencing that retroactively reduce drug sentences of ridiculous length. Let’s also not forget he personally granted clemency to Alice Johnson, a 63-year-old woman who had been serving time for a drug charge since 1996.

3. Gun Control

After the NRA spent years saying Barack Obama’s gun confiscation was right around the corner (and thereby increasing gun sales to an all-time high), it’s somewhat ironic that Trump has embraced gun control in small ways. His administration used powers already granted to the justice department to ban bump stocks, the accessories that allow semi-automatic rifles to mimic automatic ones. The shooter in the 2017 Las Vegas massacre, which remains the deadliest mass shooting in United States history so far, used one in his attack. He’s unfortunately vowed to veto an expansion of background checks passed by the House this year, but there’s no getting around that he did eliminate one of the tools of mayhem with a single pen stroke.

4. Salary Donation

One of those promises was that he would donate his p**********l salary rather than keep it, and every year he has done exactly that. He has gifted his entire paycheck to various places since assuming office, including the National Park Service, the U.S. Education Department, the T***sportation Department, the Department of Health and Human Services, and the Department of Veterans Affairs. My personal favorite was him sending $100,000 to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, which he did in memory of his older brother, Fred’s, fatal struggles with booze.

5. Union Representation

He favors it!

Every time the words “Trump” and “treaty” are in the news it’s safe to assume that something horrible is going to happen, but there is one instance in which an incredible benefit was the result. The trade deal his administration made with Mexico and Canada came with the caveat that Mexico would overhaul its labor laws. They did so, and part of the new set of laws that just passed gave workers the right to collective bargaining. Previously NAFTA helped keep unionization out of Mexico as U.S. companies sought cheap labor there. The new deal, USMCA, seeks to de-incentivize moving jobs beyond the southern border by improving the lot of Mexican workers. This is a huge move to combat bad practices by corporations eager to save money at labor’s expense outside of the United States.

6. HIV/AIDS Relief

That one is truly remarkable, though just an initiative.

This one is admittedly a proposal rather than a done deed, but I feel it’s worth mentioning. Trump has set forth a bold new plan regarding HIV/AIDS in America, which is refreshing considering how many people his party directly k**led by ignoring the AIDS crisis in the ‘80s. The thing I find interesting about the proposal is how seriously it takes the poverty aspect of the disease’s presence in America. The goal is to have a 90 percent reduction in ten years as well as get people on drugs that stabilize the disease in order to improve their quality of life. Particular focus is placed on rural areas, which have received less attention.

There are some downsides. Experts feel the proposed $291 million budget will be insufficient, not to mention that the massive undertaking will take dedicated cooperation between federal, state, and local government. Also, turning our eye home has lessened resources slated to go to fighting AIDS abroad, but you’ll have to solve that particular Trolley Problem for yourself.

None of these examples are meant to excuse the many terrible things done in the two-year decade that has been the Trump Era. He continues to wage war against marginalized people, place grifters in power, fan white nationalism, and enrich himself through his position. He’s not a good president.

But even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally.
https://www.houstonpress.com/news/texans-beat-patriots-28-22-in-monumental-victory-11390157
(Donald Trump has done a few good things. For a pr... (show quote)


" . He continues to wage war against marginalized people, place grifters in power, fan white nationalism, and enrich himself through his position. He’s not a good president. "

Those are opinions, not facts. Care to make them facts by providing evidence ? Or is this merely a wild rant ?

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Dec 4, 2019 20:27:25   #
Liberty Tree
 
son of witless wrote:
" . He continues to wage war against marginalized people, place grifters in power, fan white nationalism, and enrich himself through his position. He’s not a good president. "

Those are opinions, not facts. Care to make them facts by providing evidence ? Or is this merely a wild rant ?


To liberals opinions are facts and accusations are proof of guilt.

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Dec 4, 2019 20:37:59   #
Louis
 
rumitoid wrote:
(Donald Trump has done a few good things. For a president who seems to literally be unable to stop lying, Trump actually has a good record keeping campaign promises. According to Politifact, who kept a similar record for Obama, Trump has kept in some form or is working on more than half of the promises made on the campaign trail. How did Obama fare on Promises? See https://www.politifact.com/t***h-o-meter/article/2017/jan/05/tracking-obamas-top-25-campaign-promises/)

To be clear, he’s done mostly bad ones. He’s more personally corrupt than Chester A. Arthur, more surrounded by criminals than Ulysses S. Grant, and more shamelessly duplicitous than Richard Nixon. I believe the only reason we have not seen a national catastrophe costing tens of thousands of lives is due to sheer luck and the incredible incompetence that wafts from the White House like the lingering odor of reheated Big Macs.

Asking fans of Trump what good he’s done tends to result in nebulous, emotional benefits that tie into nationalism, patriarchy, and w***e s*******y. This list is none of those. It’s just a record-keeping article illustrating what good he has managed to do. As a judge takes cooperation of a state witness into consideration before pronouncing a sentence, so should these be in the barrel.

1. Household incomes are rising and the unemployment rate is at a half-century low.

Trump: “Unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate in 51 years.” True!

The unemployment rate has fallen to half-century lows in recent years. It was 3.6 percent in October — matching the lowest rate since 1969. So that’s actually 50 years. The president was off by a year, but broadly correct about the historic nature of the low rate.

Then he spoils this favorable point by lying about the WTO, saying that we are winning cases for the first time. Totally false. Our winning percentage rate over decades is 91%
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/us/politics/fact-check-trump-economy.html

2. Prison Reform

(I posted a favorable thread on the president for this action, finding it remarkable.)

It seems like a joke that a president under so many criminal investigations would be for prison reform and the betterment of the incarcerated, but he is. Trump has actually moved the needle quite a bit regarding our terrible prison system. The First Step Act may be, appropriately, just a nudge in the right direction, but it is undeniably movement. Among its initiatives are expansion of earned-time credits, more chances for prisoners to slowly t***sition from prison to society through halfway homes, time off sentences for vocational achievements, and better approaches to mandatory sentencing that retroactively reduce drug sentences of ridiculous length. Let’s also not forget he personally granted clemency to Alice Johnson, a 63-year-old woman who had been serving time for a drug charge since 1996.

3. Gun Control

After the NRA spent years saying Barack Obama’s gun confiscation was right around the corner (and thereby increasing gun sales to an all-time high), it’s somewhat ironic that Trump has embraced gun control in small ways. His administration used powers already granted to the justice department to ban bump stocks, the accessories that allow semi-automatic rifles to mimic automatic ones. The shooter in the 2017 Las Vegas massacre, which remains the deadliest mass shooting in United States history so far, used one in his attack. He’s unfortunately vowed to veto an expansion of background checks passed by the House this year, but there’s no getting around that he did eliminate one of the tools of mayhem with a single pen stroke.

4. Salary Donation

One of those promises was that he would donate his p**********l salary rather than keep it, and every year he has done exactly that. He has gifted his entire paycheck to various places since assuming office, including the National Park Service, the U.S. Education Department, the T***sportation Department, the Department of Health and Human Services, and the Department of Veterans Affairs. My personal favorite was him sending $100,000 to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, which he did in memory of his older brother, Fred’s, fatal struggles with booze.

5. Union Representation

He favors it!

Every time the words “Trump” and “treaty” are in the news it’s safe to assume that something horrible is going to happen, but there is one instance in which an incredible benefit was the result. The trade deal his administration made with Mexico and Canada came with the caveat that Mexico would overhaul its labor laws. They did so, and part of the new set of laws that just passed gave workers the right to collective bargaining. Previously NAFTA helped keep unionization out of Mexico as U.S. companies sought cheap labor there. The new deal, USMCA, seeks to de-incentivize moving jobs beyond the southern border by improving the lot of Mexican workers. This is a huge move to combat bad practices by corporations eager to save money at labor’s expense outside of the United States.

6. HIV/AIDS Relief

That one is truly remarkable, though just an initiative.

This one is admittedly a proposal rather than a done deed, but I feel it’s worth mentioning. Trump has set forth a bold new plan regarding HIV/AIDS in America, which is refreshing considering how many people his party directly k**led by ignoring the AIDS crisis in the ‘80s. The thing I find interesting about the proposal is how seriously it takes the poverty aspect of the disease’s presence in America. The goal is to have a 90 percent reduction in ten years as well as get people on drugs that stabilize the disease in order to improve their quality of life. Particular focus is placed on rural areas, which have received less attention.

There are some downsides. Experts feel the proposed $291 million budget will be insufficient, not to mention that the massive undertaking will take dedicated cooperation between federal, state, and local government. Also, turning our eye home has lessened resources slated to go to fighting AIDS abroad, but you’ll have to solve that particular Trolley Problem for yourself.

None of these examples are meant to excuse the many terrible things done in the two-year decade that has been the Trump Era. He continues to wage war against marginalized people, place grifters in power, fan white nationalism, and enrich himself through his position. He’s not a good president.

But even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally.
https://www.houstonpress.com/news/texans-beat-patriots-28-22-in-monumental-victory-11390157
(Donald Trump has done a few good things. For a pr... (show quote)




You’re a sick person who has a vendetta against a good man. I love how you Democrat’s constantly call the president a liar, but continue to spew lie after lie after lie about the man in order to discredit him. This phony impeachment nonsense has awakened the country to what kind of bad quality people these elected democrats really are, and I can assure you it has all but guaranteed that Trump will get re-elected and the democrats will lose control of the house.

What the American people want from their government is for them to go to work on making this country a better place. We want better security, a border wall, better roads to drive on, better communication systems like 5G, better and less expensive healthcare and we want our elected officials to look out for us, not spend all their time scheming to get rid of our duly elected president.

After watching the d********g display that the three professors the democrats brought in to give their “opinions” today I wanted to smash my TV. The absolute bias was so obvious, it was nothing short of ridiculous. Jonathan Turley was the only level headed one of the four witnesses and he told the democrats that if they chose to impeach the President for abuse of power, that they would be the ones that would be guilty of abuse of power. I thought that comment spoke volumes.

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Dec 4, 2019 20:57:42   #
rumitoid
 
son of witless wrote:
" . He continues to wage war against marginalized people, place grifters in power, fan white nationalism, and enrich himself through his position. He’s not a good president. "

Those are opinions, not facts. Care to make them facts by providing evidence ? Or is this merely a wild rant ?


I can't read newspapers and listen to the news for you. That he has "waged war against marginalized people, placed grifters in power, fan white nationalism, and enrich himself through his position" covers all the years of his presidency. Open eyes and ears for that period should suffice. Unless that for some reason you have been unable get any news of any sort or perhaps just a strict diet of Fox News, I suggest a google search. Sorry, but I find me doing your research of the obvious a waste of time.

But I will provide a starting base:
On grifters: https://www.thenation.com/article/trump-is-creating-a-grifter-economy/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/07/trump-era-gop-grifters-all-way-down/

On the Swamp: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/05/05/bill_maher_dictator_trump_is_restocking_the_swamp_and_remaking_it_into_his_own_deep_state.html#!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2019/08/28/a-progress-report-is-president-donald-trump-draining-the-swamp/

Fan White Nationalism:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/12/politics/white-s*********ts-cheer-midterms-trump/index.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/05/most-americans-thought-that-trump-encouraged-white-s*********ts-even-before-el-paso/
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/23/735191317/white-supremacy-and-trump

Hope you actually bother to read these articles; very and truly enlightening.

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Dec 4, 2019 21:03:52   #
rumitoid
 
Louis wrote:
You’re a sick person who has a vendetta against a good man. I love how you Democrat’s constantly call the president a liar, but continue to spew lie after lie after lie about the man in order to discredit him. This phony impeachment nonsense has awakened the country to what kind of bad quality people these elected democrats really are, and I can assure you it has all but guaranteed that Trump will get re-elected and the democrats will lose control of the house.

What the American people want from their government is for them to go to work on making this country a better place. We want better security, a border wall, better roads to drive on, better communication systems like 5G, better and less expensive healthcare and we want our elected officials to look out for us, not spend all their time scheming to get rid of our duly elected president.

After watching the d********g display that the three professors the democrats brought in to give their “opinions” today I wanted to smash my TV. The absolute bias was so obvious, it was nothing short of ridiculous. Jonathan Turley was the only level headed one of the four witnesses and he told the democrats that if they chose to impeach the President for abuse of power, that they would be the ones that would be guilty of abuse of power. I thought that comment spoke volumes.
You’re a sick person who has a vendetta against a ... (show quote)


For me, your stance on the president defies logic, evidence, and t***h. Very, very sad--seriously. And astonishing! But that's just how I and reality (recorded and proven) see it.

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Dec 4, 2019 21:12:18   #
rumitoid
 
Louis wrote:
You’re a sick person who has a vendetta against a good man. I love how you Democrat’s constantly call the president a liar, but continue to spew lie after lie after lie about the man in order to discredit him. This phony impeachment nonsense has awakened the country to what kind of bad quality people these elected democrats really are, and I can assure you it has all but guaranteed that Trump will get re-elected and the democrats will lose control of the house.

What the American people want from their government is for them to go to work on making this country a better place. We want better security, a border wall, better roads to drive on, better communication systems like 5G, better and less expensive healthcare and we want our elected officials to look out for us, not spend all their time scheming to get rid of our duly elected president.

After watching the d********g display that the three professors the democrats brought in to give their “opinions” today I wanted to smash my TV. The absolute bias was so obvious, it was nothing short of ridiculous. Jonathan Turley was the only level headed one of the four witnesses and he told the democrats that if they chose to impeach the President for abuse of power, that they would be the ones that would be guilty of abuse of power. I thought that comment spoke volumes.
You’re a sick person who has a vendetta against a ... (show quote)


Did the Founding Fathers have a vendetta against King George III? That's how I see it, and feel Trump has more than proven he is a clear and present danger to our republic. Anything I have written about Trump, I had reputable sources and solid evidence. The Right did not respond to that but simply attacked the messenger.

The so-called "absolute bias was so obvious" because his corruption is more than abundantly clear and undeniable there is no room for disagreement...except for those in lockstep blind loyalty. My opinion.

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Dec 4, 2019 21:26:30   #
Louis
 
rumitoid wrote:
For me, your stance on the president defies logic, evidence, and t***h. Very, very sad--seriously. And astonishing! But that's just how I and reality (recorded and proven) see it.





So, let me try things your way. You would rather have Hillary who is married to a rapist, who herself has made several trips to Jeffery Epstein’s rape centers and lied about it, who probably raped many under aged girls herself since she’s a known lesbian, someone who has had many people murdered in order to silence them, has s**mmed people out of hundreds of millions of dollars through the Clinton foundation, someone who totally screwed up B******i and lied to the whole world about it, defended rapists as a lawyer and later bragged about it, trashed the women that her husband raped, whitewater, invests ten thousand and becomes a millionaire, sells twenty percent of our uranium to the Russians to get a donation to the Clinton foundation................I’m just getting warmed up.

This is the person you wanted in the Whitehouse? Am I being fair to the old bag? No, I’m not, but I’m being more fair to her than you are to our president and these are the rules you play by, so don’t b***h when you get smacked in the face with your own crap.

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Dec 4, 2019 23:59:02   #
rumitoid
 
Louis wrote:
So, let me try things your way. You would rather have Hillary who is married to a rapist, who herself has made several trips to Jeffery Epstein’s rape centers and lied about it, who probably raped many under aged girls herself since she’s a known lesbian, someone who has had many people murdered in order to silence them, has s**mmed people out of hundreds of millions of dollars through the Clinton foundation, someone who totally screwed up B******i and lied to the whole world about it, defended rapists as a lawyer and later bragged about it, trashed the women that her husband raped, whitewater, invests ten thousand and becomes a millionaire, sells twenty percent of our uranium to the Russians to get a donation to the Clinton foundation................I’m just getting warmed up.

This is the person you wanted in the Whitehouse? Am I being fair to the old bag? No, I’m not, but I’m being more fair to her than you are to our president and these are the rules you play by, so don’t b***h when you get smacked in the face with your own crap.
So, let me try things your way. You would rather h... (show quote)


Your initial--and thoroughly--wrong presumption is a false dichotomy. There is no dichotomy. Trump is responsible for his actions; they are not mitigated or absolved by what Hillary may have done.

I did not v**e for Hillary: I v**ed green. Never liked her or her husband. Smarmy characters, both.

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Dec 5, 2019 08:43:07   #
Louis
 
rumitoid wrote:
Your initial--and thoroughly--wrong presumption is a false dichotomy. There is no dichotomy. Trump is responsible for his actions; they are not mitigated or absolved by what Hillary may have done.

I did not v**e for Hillary: I v**ed green. Never liked her or her husband. Smarmy characters, both.



Your missing the entire point. TRUMP DID NOTHING WRONG EXCEPT BEAT HILLARY!

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Dec 5, 2019 10:21:05   #
son of witless
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
To liberals opinions are facts and accusations are proof of guilt.


You see those are what he is really being Impeached on, but since those are not Impeachable offenses they had to find the Ukrainian phone call. Nothing these people say is true. They even lie to themselves.

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Dec 5, 2019 18:13:37   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
son of witless wrote:
" . He continues to wage war against marginalized people, place grifters in power, fan white nationalism, and enrich himself through his position. He’s not a good president. "

Those are opinions, not facts. Care to make them facts by providing evidence ? Or is this merely a wild rant ?


White nationalism-you love America and you're white, a problem? Or did you mean W***e S*******y that would be a lie.

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Dec 5, 2019 18:16:22   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
rumitoid wrote:
I can't read newspapers and listen to the news for you. That he has "waged war against marginalized people, placed grifters in power, fan white nationalism, and enrich himself through his position" covers all the years of his presidency. Open eyes and ears for that period should suffice. Unless that for some reason you have been unable get any news of any sort or perhaps just a strict diet of Fox News, I suggest a google search. Sorry, but I find me doing your research of the obvious a waste of time.

But I will provide a starting base:
On grifters: https://www.thenation.com/article/trump-is-creating-a-grifter-economy/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/07/trump-era-gop-grifters-all-way-down/

On the Swamp: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/05/05/bill_maher_dictator_trump_is_restocking_the_swamp_and_remaking_it_into_his_own_deep_state.html#!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2019/08/28/a-progress-report-is-president-donald-trump-draining-the-swamp/

Fan White Nationalism:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/12/politics/white-s*********ts-cheer-midterms-trump/index.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/05/most-americans-thought-that-trump-encouraged-white-s*********ts-even-before-el-paso/
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/23/735191317/white-supremacy-and-trump

Hope you actually bother to read these articles; very and truly enlightening.
I can't read newspapers and listen to the news for... (show quote)


With Google you'll just get lies. Try DuckDuckGo or another search.

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Dec 5, 2019 18:18:49   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
rumitoid wrote:
I can't read newspapers and listen to the news for you. That he has "waged war against marginalized people, placed grifters in power, fan white nationalism, and enrich himself through his position" covers all the years of his presidency. Open eyes and ears for that period should suffice. Unless that for some reason you have been unable get any news of any sort or perhaps just a strict diet of Fox News, I suggest a google search. Sorry, but I find me doing your research of the obvious a waste of time.

But I will provide a starting base:
On grifters: https://www.thenation.com/article/trump-is-creating-a-grifter-economy/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/07/trump-era-gop-grifters-all-way-down/

On the Swamp: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/05/05/bill_maher_dictator_trump_is_restocking_the_swamp_and_remaking_it_into_his_own_deep_state.html#!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2019/08/28/a-progress-report-is-president-donald-trump-draining-the-swamp/

Fan White Nationalism:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/12/politics/white-s*********ts-cheer-midterms-trump/index.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/05/most-americans-thought-that-trump-encouraged-white-s*********ts-even-before-el-paso/
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/23/735191317/white-supremacy-and-trump

Hope you actually bother to read these articles; very and truly enlightening.
I can't read newspapers and listen to the news for... (show quote)


There is a huge difference between white nationalism and w***e s*******y-GeorgeSoros

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Dec 6, 2019 10:23:14   #
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Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
With Google you'll just get lies. Try DuckDuckGo or another search.


Thank you, always welcome ways to better research issues.

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