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Nov 29, 2019 10:50:46   #
tj14 Loc: SW FL
 
On Civil War - very interesting

Dr. Jack Devere Minzey, born 6 October 1928- died 8 April 2018, was the Department Head of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein.
(Editor's note)This was the last of his works: Civil War: How do civil wars happen?

Dr. Jack Devere Minzey

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through e******ns because they don't even agree that e******ns are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here.

Who decides who runs the country? When you h**e each other but accept the e******n results, you have a country. When you stop accepting e******n results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an e******n. We all know that.

But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the e******n.

There's a pattern here.

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean?
It means they don't accept the results of any e******n that they don't win.
It means they don't believe that t***sfers of power in this country are determined by e******ns. That's a civil war.

There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to k**l a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice.

But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.
This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can h**e the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next e******n.
When you consistently reject the results of e******ns that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship.
Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own.
Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate.
The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do?
They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats.
Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.
Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything.
He can have his own amnesty for i*****l a***ns. He can fine you for not having health insurance. He can use the IRS as his own police force and imprison citizens who speak against him.
He can provide guns and money (Fast and Furious) (Iran nuclear deal) to other countries to support his own agenda, and watch while one of America's Ambassador's is d**gged through the streets and murdered doing nothing to aid our citizens. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the i*****l a***n amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented.
A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy.
A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played That's how our country is run.

Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce i*********n l*w.
But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own i*********n l*ws.
Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that. Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in it, if you're not a member, and if you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals if you aren't in the club.

And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.
Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them, and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down. That's not a free country.

It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the e******n. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an e******n because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.
Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a l*****t Democrat professional government.

Well now Pilgrims and Patriots, having read the above I suggest two things;forward this very timely, very important analysis to those whom you believe think like you do and make sure you v**e on every E******n day!

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Nov 29, 2019 11:14:13   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
tj14 wrote:
On Civil War - very interesting

Dr. Jack Devere Minzey, born 6 October 1928- died 8 April 2018, was the Department Head of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein.
(Editor's note)This was the last of his works: Civil War: How do civil wars happen?

Dr. Jack Devere Minzey

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through e******ns because they don't even agree that e******ns are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here.

Who decides who runs the country? When you h**e each other but accept the e******n results, you have a country. When you stop accepting e******n results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an e******n. We all know that.

But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the e******n.

There's a pattern here.

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean?
It means they don't accept the results of any e******n that they don't win.
It means they don't believe that t***sfers of power in this country are determined by e******ns. That's a civil war.

There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to k**l a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice.

But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.
This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can h**e the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next e******n.
When you consistently reject the results of e******ns that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship.
Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own.
Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate.
The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do?
They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats.
Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.
Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything.
He can have his own amnesty for i*****l a***ns. He can fine you for not having health insurance. He can use the IRS as his own police force and imprison citizens who speak against him.
He can provide guns and money (Fast and Furious) (Iran nuclear deal) to other countries to support his own agenda, and watch while one of America's Ambassador's is d**gged through the streets and murdered doing nothing to aid our citizens. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the i*****l a***n amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented.
A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy.
A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played That's how our country is run.

Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce i*********n l*w.
But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own i*********n l*ws.
Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that. Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in it, if you're not a member, and if you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals if you aren't in the club.

And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.
Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them, and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down. That's not a free country.

It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the e******n. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an e******n because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.
Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a l*****t Democrat professional government.

Well now Pilgrims and Patriots, having read the above I suggest two things;forward this very timely, very important analysis to those whom you believe think like you do and make sure you v**e on every E******n day!
On Civil War - very interesting br br Dr. Jack ... (show quote)


This is a hot topic with a cold war flavour


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Nov 29, 2019 11:15:28   #
vernon
 
tj14 wrote:
On Civil War - very interesting

Dr. Jack Devere Minzey, born 6 October 1928- died 8 April 2018, was the Department Head of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein.
(Editor's note)This was the last of his works: Civil War: How do civil wars happen?

Dr. Jack Devere Minzey

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through e******ns because they don't even agree that e******ns are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here.

Who decides who runs the country? When you h**e each other but accept the e******n results, you have a country. When you stop accepting e******n results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an e******n. We all know that.

But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the e******n.

There's a pattern here.

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean?
It means they don't accept the results of any e******n that they don't win.
It means they don't believe that t***sfers of power in this country are determined by e******ns. That's a civil war.

There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to k**l a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice.

But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.
This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can h**e the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next e******n.
When you consistently reject the results of e******ns that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship.
Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own.
Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate.
The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do?
They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats.
Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.
Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything.
He can have his own amnesty for i*****l a***ns. He can fine you for not having health insurance. He can use the IRS as his own police force and imprison citizens who speak against him.
He can provide guns and money (Fast and Furious) (Iran nuclear deal) to other countries to support his own agenda, doing nothing to help watch while one of America's Ambassadors is d**gged through the streets and murdered. doing nothing to aid our citizens. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the i*****l a***n amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented.
A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy.
A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played That's how our country is run.

Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce i*********n l*w.
But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own i*********n l*ws.
Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that. Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in it, if you're not a member, and if you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals if you aren't in the club.

And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people with him who aren't in the club.
Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them, and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down. That's not a free country.

It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the e******n. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude to overturn an e******n because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.
Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a l*****t Democrat professional government.

Well now Pilgrims and Patriots, having read the above I suggest two things;forward this very timely, very important analysis to those whom you believe think like you do and make sure you v**e on every E******n day!
On Civil War - very interesting br br Dr. Jack ... (show quote)



We need to investigate this Congress.I read the other day that there are many more of those thieves stealing including Kerry, Pelosi, and Romney. Now I realize this is not just Ukraine.This goes to almost every nation receiving foreign aid. These DemoRATS have been stealing billions
from us for years. Isn't it amazing how many people go into Congress without much personal wealth and somehow they and some of their relatives become quite wealthy by the time they leave public service.

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Nov 29, 2019 11:23:59   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
tj14 wrote:
On Civil War - very interesting

Dr. Jack Devere Minzey, born 6 October 1928- died 8 April 2018, was the Department Head of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein.
(Editor's note)This was the last of his works: Civil War: How do civil wars happen?

Dr. Jack Devere Minzey

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through e******ns because they don't even agree that e******ns are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here.

Who decides who runs the country? When you h**e each other but accept the e******n results, you have a country. When you stop accepting e******n results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an e******n. We all know that.

But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the e******n.

There's a pattern here.

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean?
It means they don't accept the results of any e******n that they don't win.
It means they don't believe that t***sfers of power in this country are determined by e******ns. That's a civil war.

There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to k**l a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice.

But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.
This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can h**e the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next e******n.
When you consistently reject the results of e******ns that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship.
Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own.
Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate.
The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do?
They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats.
Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.
Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything.
He can have his own amnesty for i*****l a***ns. He can fine you for not having health insurance. He can use the IRS as his own police force and imprison citizens who speak against him.
He can provide guns and money (Fast and Furious) (Iran nuclear deal) to other countries to support his own agenda, and watch while one of America's Ambassador's is d**gged through the streets and murdered doing nothing to aid our citizens. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the i*****l a***n amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented.
A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy.
A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played That's how our country is run.

Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce i*********n l*w.
But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own i*********n l*ws.
Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that. Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in it, if you're not a member, and if you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals if you aren't in the club.

And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.
Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them, and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down. That's not a free country.

It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the e******n. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an e******n because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.
Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a l*****t Democrat professional government.

Well now Pilgrims and Patriots, having read the above I suggest two things;forward this very timely, very important analysis to those whom you believe think like you do and make sure you v**e on every E******n day!
On Civil War - very interesting br br Dr. Jack ... (show quote)


Say what? about accepting e******n results? The Dems don't? Here ya go:

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/will-trump-accept-2016-e******n-results-230932

And btw, the last 3 yrs cannot be overturned. Nor can the e******n 2016 be overturned. The impeachment proceedings are about the administration's behavior and policies. You are only fooling yourself with the 'overturn an e******n' position. The 2020 e******n will be the referendum on overturning the 2016 results...all perfectly legal and constitutional. Not a civil war at all...except in your mind.

Did the right really think the t******r of p***r in 2016 was permanent? If so, they are poor representatives for lecturing the left on the constitution. If Trump loses in 2020 it will be because he doesn't have the support of the American people, not some gossamer 'civil war' web of conspiracies.

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Nov 29, 2019 11:59:31   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
working class stiff wrote:
Say what? about accepting e******n results? The Dems don't? Here ya go:

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/will-trump-accept-2016-e******n-results-230932

And btw, the last 3 yrs cannot be overturned. Nor can the e******n 2016 be overturned. The impeachment proceedings are about the administration's behavior and policies. You are only fooling yourself with the 'overturn an e******n' position. The 2020 e******n will be the referendum on overturning the 2016 results...all perfectly legal and constitutional. Not a civil war at all...except in your mind.

Did the right really think the t******r of p***r in 2016 was permanent? If so, they are poor representatives for lecturing the left on the constitution. If Trump loses in 2020 it will be because he doesn't have the support of the American people, not some gossamer 'civil war' web of conspiracies.
Say what? about accepting e******n results? The D... (show quote)


Nonsense! The s******nists began clambering for impeachment immediately after his win and never ceased.

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Nov 29, 2019 14:57:30   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
tj14 wrote:
On Civil War - very interesting

Dr. Jack Devere Minzey, born 6 October 1928- died 8 April 2018, was the Department Head of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein.
(Editor's note)This was the last of his works: Civil War: How do civil wars happen?

Dr. Jack Devere Minzey

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through e******ns because they don't even agree that e******ns are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here.

Who decides who runs the country? When you h**e each other but accept the e******n results, you have a country. When you stop accepting e******n results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an e******n. We all know that.

But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the e******n.

There's a pattern here.

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean?
It means they don't accept the results of any e******n that they don't win.
It means they don't believe that t***sfers of power in this country are determined by e******ns. That's a civil war.

There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to k**l a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice.

But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.
This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can h**e the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next e******n.
When you consistently reject the results of e******ns that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship.
Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own.
Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate.
The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do?
They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats.
Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.
Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything.
He can have his own amnesty for i*****l a***ns. He can fine you for not having health insurance. He can use the IRS as his own police force and imprison citizens who speak against him.
He can provide guns and money (Fast and Furious) (Iran nuclear deal) to other countries to support his own agenda, and watch while one of America's Ambassador's is d**gged through the streets and murdered doing nothing to aid our citizens. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the i*****l a***n amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented.
A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy.
A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played That's how our country is run.

Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce i*********n l*w.
But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own i*********n l*ws.
Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that. Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in it, if you're not a member, and if you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals if you aren't in the club.

And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.
Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them, and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down. That's not a free country.

It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the e******n. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an e******n because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.
Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a l*****t Democrat professional government.

Well now Pilgrims and Patriots, having read the above I suggest two things;forward this very timely, very important analysis to those whom you believe think like you do and make sure you v**e on every E******n day!
On Civil War - very interesting br br Dr. Jack ... (show quote)


.

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Nov 29, 2019 14:57:53   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
padremike wrote:
Nonsense! The s******nists began clambering for impeachment immediately after his win and never ceased.



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Nov 29, 2019 15:57:07   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
padremike wrote:
Nonsense! The s******nists began clambering for impeachment immediately after his win and never ceased.


Sure....it's liberals who are discussing Civil War 2.0. Trying to win the next e******ns is not s******n. Only someone who thinks power is t***sferred permanently or totally after an e******n would think so. Ask Obama about the stances that Boehner and McConnell took when they became the opposition. Obama had to live with 's******nists' and so does Trump.

What your smelling is the shoe being put on the other foot.

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Nov 29, 2019 16:55:49   #
woodguru
 
tj14 wrote:
Who decides who runs the country? When you h**e each other but accept the e******n results, you have a country. When you stop accepting e******n results, you have a countdown to a civil war.
...They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats.
...Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country.
When the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He's a dictator.

Well now nimrods and alt patriots...who's in power now?
...Who is packing the courts with hard left nut job ideologues
...which side refused to allow a democrat to seat a supreme court judge in his last year
...which side's speaker said he would allow trump to fill a supreme court seat in trump's last year
...which party president refuses to acknowledge the power of the house to investigate and hold him accountable
...we do know that Trump is very likely to accept losing an e******n, when was the last time a democrat refused to accept defeat, even though the supreme court was wrong in their interference
...which president refuses to accept court rulings or the rule of law
...which president has run a war against the free press

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Nov 29, 2019 17:00:10   #
woodguru
 
padremike wrote:
Nonsense! The s******nists began clambering for impeachment immediately after his win and never ceased.

Trump made it clear he might not accept losing the e******n if he did...

and republicans made it 100% clear they were going to file articles of impeachment the month Hillary took office if she won...and is there any doubt they would have?

Trump had issues surrounding Russian influences with everyone he had on his campaign, and he added to reasons he should have been impeached from the day he took office, actually well before. He has gotten away with things no president in history ever would or should.

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Nov 29, 2019 17:25:29   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
working class stiff wrote:
Sure....it's liberals who are discussing Civil War 2.0. Trying to win the next e******ns is not s******n. Only someone who thinks power is t***sferred permanently or totally after an e******n would think so. Ask Obama about the stances that Boehner and McConnell took when they became the opposition. Obama had to live with 's******nists' and so does Trump.

What your smelling is the shoe being put on the other foot.


You're so twisted I suspect it we put a propeller on you and cut you loose your be able to fly across country non stop.

Face it Stiff, it's you progressives that resort to violence more often than not. How many Progressive legislatures have been shot, beaten or harassed in their homes or dining out in the past 11 years? ( 8 years of Obama plus 3 years Trump) Your political party, along with their control of the news outlets, keep their mob constantly stirred up like an old fashioned tent revival service. They all use the same negative buzz word received straight from the DNC every day. it's downright comical. They have to do this 24/7 to keep the shallow interests and hysterical responses of their base from exposure to the T***h. Because......The T***h would set them free! (That phrase has a familiar ring to it huh?

You might consider that it is those who believe their so called power might be lost permanently; those who resort to such tactics that would have once been unthinkable to destroy a president, who, in the full meaning of the word, are the s******nist.

Today's progressive is born of the direct influence from the corrupt and d******e influence of Obama and his Administration. Today's progressive are his love children. For cause, for good cause his agenda was rejected as best conservatives could. The common sense folks kicked his control of the Congress to The curb in 2012/14. The repeal of Obama's strangling restrictions by President Trump is turning policy against socialism and fueling our economy. The current candidates for a progressive President are socialists. Holy moly they do excite their excitable and emotional followers with the promises of free stuff. It's time for you folks to wise up!

What you're now smelling is the sweetness of T***h.

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Nov 29, 2019 18:27:34   #
Lonewolf
 
tj14 wrote:
On Civil War - very interesting

Dr. Jack Devere Minzey, born 6 October 1928- died 8 April 2018, was the Department Head of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein.
(Editor's note)This was the last of his works: Civil War: How do civil wars happen?

Dr. Jack Devere Minzey

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through e******ns because they don't even agree that e******ns are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here.

Who decides who runs the country? When you h**e each other but accept the e******n results, you have a country. When you stop accepting e******n results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an e******n. We all know that.

But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the e******n.

There's a pattern here.

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean?
It means they don't accept the results of any e******n that they don't win.
It means they don't believe that t***sfers of power in this country are determined by e******ns. That's a civil war.

There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to k**l a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice.

But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.
This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can h**e the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next e******n.
When you consistently reject the results of e******ns that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship.
Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own.
Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate.
The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do?
They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats.
Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.
Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything.
He can have his own amnesty for i*****l a***ns. He can fine you for not having health insurance. He can use the IRS as his own police force and imprison citizens who speak against him.
He can provide guns and money (Fast and Furious) (Iran nuclear deal) to other countries to support his own agenda, and watch while one of America's Ambassador's is d**gged through the streets and murdered doing nothing to aid our citizens. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the i*****l a***n amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented.
A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy.
A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played That's how our country is run.

Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce i*********n l*w.
But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own i*********n l*ws.
Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that. Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in it, if you're not a member, and if you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals if you aren't in the club.

And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.
Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them, and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down. That's not a free country.

It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the e******n. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an e******n because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.
Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a l*****t Democrat professional government.

Well now Pilgrims and Patriots, having read the above I suggest two things;forward this very timely, very important analysis to those whom you believe think like you do and make sure you v**e on every E******n day!
On Civil War - very interesting br br Dr. Jack ... (show quote)


this is how trump caught the attention of the FBI
https://www.vox.com/mischiefs-of-faction/2017/3/6/14820506/trump-russia-network-mapped

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Nov 30, 2019 08:29:25   #
PJT
 
Woodbury. WHAT FREE PRESS?

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Nov 30, 2019 11:23:31   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
padremike wrote:
You're so twisted I suspect it we put a propeller on you and cut you loose your be able to fly across country non stop.

Face it Stiff, it's you progressives that resort to violence more often than not. How many Progressive legislatures have been shot, beaten or harassed in their homes or dining out in the past 11 years? ( 8 years of Obama plus 3 years Trump) Your political party, along with their control of the news outlets, keep their mob constantly stirred up like an old fashioned tent revival service. They all use the same negative buzz word received straight from the DNC every day. it's downright comical. They have to do this 24/7 to keep the shallow interests and hysterical responses of their base from exposure to the T***h. Because......The T***h would set them free! (That phrase has a familiar ring to it huh?

You might consider that it is those who believe their so called power might be lost permanently; those who resort to such tactics that would have once been unthinkable to destroy a president, who, in the full meaning of the word, are the s******nist.

Today's progressive is born of the direct influence from the corrupt and d******e influence of Obama and his Administration. Today's progressive are his love children. For cause, for good cause his agenda was rejected as best conservatives could. The common sense folks kicked his control of the Congress to The curb in 2012/14. The repeal of Obama's strangling restrictions by President Trump is turning policy against socialism and fueling our economy. The current candidates for a progressive President are socialists. Holy moly they do excite their excitable and emotional followers with the promises of free stuff. It's time for you folks to wise up!

What you're now smelling is the sweetness of T***h.
You're so twisted I suspect it we put a propeller ... (show quote)


Nope....nothing but propaganda in your post. Put up a reputable link that shows the left wing resorts to violence more often than not. Or that the Dems control the media. As for corruption, you are spitting into the wind, padre. But that's okay...I no longer expect anything but blind support of this administration from Trump cultists. Proof is such an old fashioned concept.

After flesh rots enough, there is a sort of pungent sweet smell that fills the air. That's the sweetness your smelling...the rotting corpse of what used to be conservatism buried under the Republican party of Trump.

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Nov 30, 2019 12:28:11   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
working class stiff wrote:
Say what? about accepting e******n results? The Dems don't? Here ya go:

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/will-trump-accept-2016-e******n-results-230932

And btw, the last 3 yrs cannot be overturned. Nor can the e******n 2016 be overturned. The impeachment proceedings are about the administration's behavior and policies. You are only fooling yourself with the 'overturn an e******n' position. The 2020 e******n will be the referendum on overturning the 2016 results...all perfectly legal and constitutional. Not a civil war at all...except in your mind.

Did the right really think the t******r of p***r in 2016 was permanent? If so, they are poor representatives for lecturing the left on the constitution. If Trump loses in 2020 it will be because he doesn't have the support of the American people, not some gossamer 'civil war' web of conspiracies.
Say what? about accepting e******n results? The D... (show quote)


Will you ever accept the fact that the Dems have, from the first day Trump took the oath of office been saying Trump should be impeached without his ever doing a single thing illegal while in office. As for his tax records, don't you think if there had been something wrong with them the IRs would have started an investigation of him long before now? If Trump does win the next P**********l e******n and gain the House and keep the Senate, will you and the other progressives say he won fair and square? I doubt it very much but hope and pray I will be wrong on that account.

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