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What Are The Facts In The Gallagher Case, What Was He Indicted For Doing?
Nov 26, 2019 14:24:21   #
woodguru
 
I'd be curious to see how many people know what this case was about. I watched some FOX coverage and there was virtually nothing said about several of the things this guy did. This wasn't a matter of him being vindicated as in he was found not to have done the things he was being charged with, he did them. It's more about was what he did a crime, and the military said yes, that there are rules and moral positions the military holds soldiers to. Trump on the other hand sees nothing wrong with snipers shooting civilians, even though Gallagher was out of control to where the other people including special services members wanted him held accountable.

I'm sure the lefties can come up with a good list of what he did, but my guess is that the right truly doesn't know, all they believe is that he was wrongfully charged, he was a soldier and war is tough.

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Nov 26, 2019 15:30:58   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
woodguru wrote:
I'd be curious to see how many people know what this case was about. I watched some FOX coverage and there was virtually nothing said about several of the things this guy did. This wasn't a matter of him being vindicated as in he was found not to have done the things he was being charged with, he did them. It's more about was what he did a crime, and the military said yes, that there are rules and moral positions the military holds soldiers to. Trump on the other hand sees nothing wrong with snipers shooting civilians, even though Gallagher was out of control to where the other people including special services members wanted him held accountable.

I'm sure the lefties can come up with a good list of what he did, but my guess is that the right truly doesn't know, all they believe is that he was wrongfully charged, he was a soldier and war is tough.
I'd be curious to see how many people know what th... (show quote)


Now we have police who some want them to walk up to the criminal and talk them down before they shoot and yes some military personal fall over the edge but his commanding officer should be looking for signs in all of them his people who share his tent the people who went out on patrol he had to have shown some signs and people ignored them its sad that the people we depend on are the ones getting pissed on. I have always felt they should have a counselor in every troup because not all of them have a chaplen

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Nov 26, 2019 15:42:58   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
I'd be curious to see how many people know what this case was about. I watched some FOX coverage and there was virtually nothing said about several of the things this guy did. This wasn't a matter of him being vindicated as in he was found not to have done the things he was being charged with, he did them. It's more about was what he did a crime, and the military said yes, that there are rules and moral positions the military holds soldiers to. Trump on the other hand sees nothing wrong with snipers shooting civilians, even though Gallagher was out of control to where the other people including special services members wanted him held accountable.

I'm sure the lefties can come up with a good list of what he did, but my guess is that the right truly doesn't know, all they believe is that he was wrongfully charged, he was a soldier and war is tough.
I'd be curious to see how many people know what th... (show quote)


Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher Acquitted of War Crimes Charges by Court Martial

A court-martial panel at Naval Base San Diego found Navy Chief Petty Officer Eddie Gallagher not guilty of all but one charge in a seven-count indictment that included premeditated murder. He was convicted of disobeying a lawful general regulation by posing with the corpse of an ISIS fighter in a photo.

This is one of those cases that never should have been brought based on the evidence. It further demonstrated that the institutional Navy had decided that it needed Gallagher’s scalp h*****g on its lodgepole to remind the warriors in the field that it is actually the fat-assed, bespectacled, g****r-questioning types (NTTAWWT) who call the shots in today’s Navy.

The nitwits and boobs who comprise the NCIS (the real one, not the bullsh** television show) seemingly slanted statements to show criminality. The lead NCIS investigator was accused of shaping and coaching testimony of the people he interviewed. The prosecutor in the case used a type of malware to monitor the communications of Gallagher’s attorney and was dismissed. There was no body and no autopsy. Apparently, there was actual film of the incident that cleared Gallagher but the case was pressed anyway. The government’s lead witness, a Navy Corpsman testifying under a grant of immunity…said that he, himself, k**led the ISIS fighter. The Navy’s own expert testified that he didn’t have a clue as to what k**led the fighter because there was no body. A witness said Gallagher didn’t k**l the prisoner.

All in all, the Navy pulled out all the stops to convict Gallagher. When President Trump broached the idea of pardoning him, a platoon of tame, stump-broke veterans appeared to convict Gallagher as a callous murderer and claim that his pardon would turn our armed forces into marauders who, to quote some famous dipwad, “raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human g*****ls and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan.”

In the end, he was convicted of something that should never have been taken to a court-martial, to begin with.

Gallagher faces up to four months confinement but he’s served over that amount of time in pre-trial confinement because the Navy tried to make him out to be some guy who was threatening witnesses (note he was acquitted of that charge). So, after sentencing, Gallagher walks. Gallagher was within just a few months of retirement when he was charged. He’s probably fully eligible now. The question is whether the Navy cuts its losses and lets him go or digs in and tries to give him a discharge under other than honorable conditions. He could also end up being discharged as an E=1 because if the court-martial panel imposes confinement at hard labor, an automatic reduction to the lowest enlisted grade goes along with it even if the punishment doesn’t specify the reduction in rank.

There are other guys either in prison or currently on parole who were railroaded just as certainly as the Navy tried to railroad Chief Gallagher. President Trump should, at a minimum, appoint a fact-finding commission to look at those convictions if not outright pardon them.

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Nov 26, 2019 15:48:48   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher Acquitted of War Crimes Charges by Court Martial

A court-martial panel at Naval Base San Diego found Navy Chief Petty Officer Eddie Gallagher not guilty of all but one charge in a seven-count indictment that included premeditated murder. He was convicted of disobeying a lawful general regulation by posing with the corpse of an ISIS fighter in a photo.

This is one of those cases that never should have been brought based on the evidence. It further demonstrated that the institutional Navy had decided that it needed Gallagher’s scalp h*****g on its lodgepole to remind the warriors in the field that it is actually the fat-assed, bespectacled, g****r-questioning types (NTTAWWT) who call the shots in today’s Navy.

The nitwits and boobs who comprise the NCIS (the real one, not the bullsh** television show) seemingly slanted statements to show criminality. The lead NCIS investigator was accused of shaping and coaching testimony of the people he interviewed. The prosecutor in the case used a type of malware to monitor the communications of Gallagher’s attorney and was dismissed. There was no body and no autopsy. Apparently, there was actual film of the incident that cleared Gallagher but the case was pressed anyway. The government’s lead witness, a Navy Corpsman testifying under a grant of immunity…said that he, himself, k**led the ISIS fighter. The Navy’s own expert testified that he didn’t have a clue as to what k**led the fighter because there was no body. A witness said Gallagher didn’t k**l the prisoner.

All in all, the Navy pulled out all the stops to convict Gallagher. When President Trump broached the idea of pardoning him, a platoon of tame, stump-broke veterans appeared to convict Gallagher as a callous murderer and claim that his pardon would turn our armed forces into marauders who, to quote some famous dipwad, “raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human g*****ls and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan.”

In the end, he was convicted of something that should never have been taken to a court-martial, to begin with.

Gallagher faces up to four months confinement but he’s served over that amount of time in pre-trial confinement because the Navy tried to make him out to be some guy who was threatening witnesses (note he was acquitted of that charge). So, after sentencing, Gallagher walks. Gallagher was within just a few months of retirement when he was charged. He’s probably fully eligible now. The question is whether the Navy cuts its losses and lets him go or digs in and tries to give him a discharge under other than honorable conditions. He could also end up being discharged as an E=1 because if the court-martial panel imposes confinement at hard labor, an automatic reduction to the lowest enlisted grade goes along with it even if the punishment doesn’t specify the reduction in rank.

There are other guys either in prison or currently on parole who were railroaded just as certainly as the Navy tried to railroad Chief Gallagher. President Trump should, at a minimum, appoint a fact-finding commission to look at those convictions if not outright pardon them.
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Blade. It is amazing how Woodie has vanished!

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Nov 26, 2019 16:16:16   #
woodguru
 
bggamers wrote:
Now we have police who some want them to walk up to the criminal and talk them down before they shoot and yes some military personal fall over the edge but his commanding officer should be looking for signs in all of them his people who share his tent the people who went out on patrol he had to have shown some signs and people ignored them its sad that the people we depend on are the ones getting pissed on. I have always felt they should have a counselor in every troup because not all of them have a chaplen
Now we have police who some want them to walk up t... (show quote)

Actually what we want is a standard for the use of deadly force, and it is almost never warranted when the victim that is k**led doesn't have a weapon. It is never warranted when a teen aged kid is running away and gets shot, or a teen (white boy) is laying on the ground doing everything the cop tells him to and he gets shot anyway, from fifteen feet away yet. No deadly threat needs to mean a charge for murder or manslaughter at the least. And no this does not endanger policemen.

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Nov 26, 2019 16:20:21   #
woodguru
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher Acquitted of War Crimes Charges by Court Martial

A court-martial panel at Naval Base San Diego found Navy Chief Petty Officer Eddie Gallagher not guilty of all but one charge in a seven-count indictment that included premeditated murder. He was convicted of disobeying a lawful general regulation by posing with the corpse of an ISIS fighter in a photo.

This is one of those cases that never should have been brought based on the evidence. It further demonstrated that the institutional Navy had decided that it needed Gallagher’s scalp h*****g on its lodgepole to remind the warriors in the field that it is actually the fat-assed, bespectacled, g****r-questioning types (NTTAWWT) who call the shots in today’s Navy.

The nitwits and boobs who comprise the NCIS (the real one, not the bullsh** television show) seemingly slanted statements to show criminality. The lead NCIS investigator was accused of shaping and coaching testimony of the people he interviewed. The prosecutor in the case used a type of malware to monitor the communications of Gallagher’s attorney and was dismissed. There was no body and no autopsy. Apparently, there was actual film of the incident that cleared Gallagher but the case was pressed anyway. The government’s lead witness, a Navy Corpsman testifying under a grant of immunity…said that he, himself, k**led the ISIS fighter. The Navy’s own expert testified that he didn’t have a clue as to what k**led the fighter because there was no body. A witness said Gallagher didn’t k**l the prisoner.

All in all, the Navy pulled out all the stops to convict Gallagher. When President Trump broached the idea of pardoning him, a platoon of tame, stump-broke veterans appeared to convict Gallagher as a callous murderer and claim that his pardon would turn our armed forces into marauders who, to quote some famous dipwad, “raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human g*****ls and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan.”

In the end, he was convicted of something that should never have been taken to a court-martial, to begin with.

Gallagher faces up to four months confinement but he’s served over that amount of time in pre-trial confinement because the Navy tried to make him out to be some guy who was threatening witnesses (note he was acquitted of that charge). So, after sentencing, Gallagher walks. Gallagher was within just a few months of retirement when he was charged. He’s probably fully eligible now. The question is whether the Navy cuts its losses and lets him go or digs in and tries to give him a discharge under other than honorable conditions. He could also end up being discharged as an E=1 because if the court-martial panel imposes confinement at hard labor, an automatic reduction to the lowest enlisted grade goes along with it even if the punishment doesn’t specify the reduction in rank.

There are other guys either in prison or currently on parole who were railroaded just as certainly as the Navy tried to railroad Chief Gallagher. President Trump should, at a minimum, appoint a fact-finding commission to look at those convictions if not outright pardon them.
b Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher Acquitted of War Crim... (show quote)

You did not list the things he was accused of, among them shooting and knifing civilians, let's hear the list of things that he was indicted on. Part of the record indicated that he was out of control enough in terms of shooting civilians that his peers would monkey with his sights so he would miss sniper targets.

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Nov 26, 2019 16:24:41   #
woodguru
 
amadjuster wrote:
Blade. It is amazing how Woodie has vanished!

You wish, what is not amazing is there have been no list of what he was said to have done. He was a despicable POS, as evidenced by taking a picture with a dead person he k**led

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Nov 26, 2019 16:27:58   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
woodguru wrote:
Actually what we want is a standard for the use of deadly force, and it is almost never warranted when the victim that is k**led doesn't have a weapon. It is never warranted when a teen aged kid is running away and gets shot, or a teen (white boy) is laying on the ground doing everything the cop tells him to and he gets shot anyway, from fifteen feet away yet. No deadly threat needs to mean a charge for murder or manslaughter at the least. And no this does not endanger policemen.


my u do have it for the blue so how bout we just dont have any police so we don't have to worry about the 1 or 2 percent that goes over the line then we don't have to put the rest at risk by not giving them a way to protect them selves ok

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Nov 26, 2019 16:58:05   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
You did not list the things he was accused of, among them shooting and knifing civilians, let's hear the list of things that he was indicted on. Part of the record indicated that he was out of control enough in terms of shooting civilians that his peers would monkey with his sights so he would miss sniper targets.
The NCIS and the navy prosecutors totally screwed the pooch in their attempt to destroy Chief Gallagher.

Chief Gallagher did not k**l the young ISIS fighter, nor did he indiscriminately shoot civilians.


Article 80 Attempted Murder NOT GUILTY
Article 118 Premeditated Murder NOT GUILTY
Article 128 Aggravated Assault with a Dangerous Weapon x2 on non-combatants NOT GUILTY
Article 134 Firearm, discharging-willfully, under such circumstances as to endanger human life at non-combatants NOT GUILTY
Article 134 Obstructing Justice (three counts) NOT GUILTY
Article 134 Wrongfully pose for an unofficial picture with a human casualty GUILTY
Article 134 Wrongfully complete reenlistment ceremony next to a human casualty NOT GUILTY
Article 134 Wrongfully Operate a drone over a human casualty NOT GUILTY
Article 112a Wrongful Use of a Controlled Substance – Tramadol Hydrochloride NOT GUILTY
Article 112a Unlawful Possession of a Controlled Substance – Sustanon-250 NOT GUILTY

Edward Gallagher: 19 Year Service Member

Joined July 28th 1999

Marine Corps
Medic/Corpsman for platoon
7 month Combat Deployment – 2000 Deployment – Mediterranean/Kosovo
Sea Service Deployment Ribbon

Marine Corps
Sniper/Corpsman
Marine Corps Water Instructor Survival Specialist – MCWISS

Marine Corps
9 month combat Deployment during invasion of – Mosul/Africa 2003
Marine Corpsman/Medic/Sniper
Combat Action Ribbon

Basic Underwater Demolition/ NSWC – 2004
SEAL Qualification Training Graduation 2005
SEALTEAM ONE – 2005
18 Delta Field Medic Course – 2005

SEAL Team One
Special Operator 2nd Class – SO2
Plt Medic, Sniper, Corpsman
2 Troop Delta PLT
Combat deployed to Iraq 2006-2007
Navy commendation medal with V for Valor / combat action ribbon / Iraqi campaign / Afghanistan Campaign /Sea Service Deployment Ribbon

SEAL Team One
Special Operator 1st Class – SO1
Lead Sniper / Platoon Medic / Lead Breacher / Fire Team Leader
2 troop Delta platoon,
Combat Deployment – Afghanistan 2009-2010
Combat Action / Afghanistan Campaign / Bronze Star with V for Valor

Naval Special warfare Center BUDS Instructor
Master Training SpecialistSpecial Operator 1st class,
2010-2012

SEAL Team Seven -2012-2017
Special Operator 1st class, SO1
2 troop, Delta platoon
Squad leader, lead sniper, Lead Breacher, fire team leader, Lead Corpsman
Combat Deployment – Afghanistan 2013
Army commendation medal, Navy Commendation Medal, Combat action ribbon with gold star insignia for multiple combat deployments

SEAL Team 7
Charlie Platoon– Lead Petty Officer of plt, SO1
Crisis Response element
Deployment United Arab Emirates– 2014-2015
Navy Commendation medal
SEAL Team 7 – Sailor of the quarter
SEAL Team 7 – Sailor of the year
Naval Special Warfare Group One- Sailor of the year
Number one E6 at Command

SEAL Team 7
Alpha Platoon – Special Operator Chief, E-7
Combat Deployment – Mosul, 2016-2017
Number one Chief at SEAS Team 7 Command

Awards:
2 Bronze Stars with V for Valor
Meritorious Unit Commendation
P**********l Unit Citation
2 Navy Commendation Medals
3 Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medals – 1 with V for Valor
4 Good conduct awards

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Nov 26, 2019 17:54:54   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
woodguru wrote:
You wish, what is not amazing is there have been no list of what he was said to have done. He was a despicable POS, as evidenced by taking a picture with a dead person he k**led


Damn, Woodie. You have heard of innocent until proven guilty. He was Not Guilty. Richard Jewell was accused of being a bomber, but he wasn't. Do you think he is a despicable POS?

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Nov 26, 2019 19:22:31   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
amadjuster wrote:
Blade. It is amazing how Woodie has vanished!


He had to go find a new rod so he can wear out another one beating a dead horse.

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