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Natural man fears chains more than he fears propaganda. requested by Richard Rowland
Nov 25, 2019 15:01:42   #
bahmer
 
Bob Livingston Alerts
Natural man fears chains more than he fears propaganda. But propaganda is the far greater despotism.

When men are in chains, they are aware of their s***ery. But few understand the superior power of deception. Most people can be persuaded to do almost anything to their own detriment.

What we believe and act upon we consider our own free will. Nothing could be further from the t***h. We as a people and a nation are subject to massive and continuous propaganda. So programmed are the masses that they become hostile to t***h.

Democracy is a mask, a front for total power of an oligarchy ruling via forced persuasion. Such a system might be tolerable if the oligarchs had the people's best interests at heart. But the focus of forced persuasion is to channel all social, economic and moral law to the federal establishment. The stated altruistic justification is the perpetual utilitarian argument that the majority can require and force the minority to self-sacrifice for what the establishment-created majority has determined to be the greater good.

But altruism is a farce and a ruse. Altruism is the very foundation of statist propaganda and power that the individual must place his interests, including his property, beneath the "need" of the collective (state). In our time this is called "in the public interest."

The term "public interest" t***slates into the government interest always. Therefore, the army of federal judges and politicians claim to act in the "public interest," and they would tell you in a minute that they do everything in the "public interest." This is a deception that few unravel mainly because of the self-deception of altruism. As long as an individual believes that he is obligated to share his property and produce for the "common good," he is in reality no longer an individual but a part of the collective s***es of the state. Altruism motivates people to self-sacrifice. This is why altruism is at the root of all governments. Governments must instill self-sacrifice to solidify political power.

Unmasked, democracy is a study of power attained through persuasion instead of physical conquest. Think how many have died for this farce.

The nature of government is to perpetually grow. And the nature of politics and politicians is to seek wealth, power and aggrandizement. They represent government, not you.

Governments and politicians mask their agendas and create illusions to deceive and misrepresent. Governments, bureaucrats and politicians look upon the public as a herd that should be deceived and led for the benefit of government and the elite.

The public has been trained to think in terms of what is legal and what is illegal. The politicians and their elite bosses operate above the law and outside the law. This is contempt for the people.

Protect yourself from the flu (and everything else going around!)

3,000-year-old remedy called "The Pharaoh's Oil" is the health secret of Egyptian Kings... European Queens... and Religious Prophets. It claims to treat almost everything... I was convinced it was nothing but SNAKE OIL! But then it helped me with a dozen health problems I never expected... you won't believe what else...
Politicians, bureaucrats, judges and their friends are untouchables. Yes, occasionally one or two are sacrificed on the altar in the name of "justice," but it is nothing more than a ruse that keeps the system in place.

The saturation point is coming, and it can't be stopped. Sociopathic political behavior self-destructs over time. Satan rends himself. Ethics and decency in politics are anathema. A politician is not a statesman, and a statesman is not a politician.

Politics is power, and politics creates predators. Money has surpassed self-worth and dignity. Politics in America is incest with the government. Do we hear politicians warning Americans that the money creators are destroying their savings, their retirement and their purchasing power, as well as that of future generations?

The system is now beyond resolution. We are in the final stages of economic, social and moral collapse.

Investment banks have made billions while destroying America. They create financial products that are designed to fail, market them to the unsuspecting and then take short positions against them. They are a show-me-the-money culture, and the system protects them in their financial crimes. The great recession is their handiwork.

The word "conspiracy" is an establishment word used to imprison multitudes of nonviolent people (who are not in favor of the power structure) and confiscate their property outright without due process and under a feigned color of law. The politicians know this.

This is no different from the old Star Chamber motivated by the word "treason" (today it is "conspiracy" or even the new slander "Russian asset." Everyone who opposes forever war is a "Russian asset" today). Then came the thumbscrew and the rack to extract confession and an excuse to hang the victim. So what's the difference today?

There are clearly privileged classes in America, those in political power backed by illegal police power. They act against the people outside the law and the Constitution. My friends, it has become so obvious.

While we slept, the political regime has shifted the "burden of proof" to the defendant. One is entrapped, charged and prosecuted under hundreds of laws and statutes he didn't know existed. The "justice" system with its never-empty purse is brought to bear against the "defendant," who often has seen his assets frozen even without a conviction and has been separated from his livelihood, rendering him unable to mount a defense.

This is the new democracy. Democracy is rule of the rabble by the elite.

The possibility of reform has passed. The point of saturation of the full measure of disgust is near. Sparks can trigger revolution.

Morality has collapsed. Politicians, federal judges and prosecutors will eat their young for fiat money, power and aggrandizement. They all have a lawyer Ponzi mentality.

The soul of America has been penetrated with toxic greed. Political rigor mortis is everywhere. The state is collapsing of its own corruption.

Politicians, beware, you "elected" vipers!

Yours for the t***h,

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Nov 25, 2019 18:09:19   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
bahmer wrote:
Bob Livingston Alerts
Natural man fears chains more than he fears propaganda. But propaganda is the far greater despotism.

When men are in chains, they are aware of their s***ery. But few understand the superior power of deception. Most people can be persuaded to do almost anything to their own detriment.

What we believe and act upon we consider our own free will. Nothing could be further from the t***h. We as a people and a nation are subject to massive and continuous propaganda. So programmed are the masses that they become hostile to t***h.

Democracy is a mask, a front for total power of an oligarchy ruling via forced persuasion. Such a system might be tolerable if the oligarchs had the people's best interests at heart. But the focus of forced persuasion is to channel all social, economic and moral law to the federal establishment. The stated altruistic justification is the perpetual utilitarian argument that the majority can require and force the minority to self-sacrifice for what the establishment-created majority has determined to be the greater good.

But altruism is a farce and a ruse. Altruism is the very foundation of statist propaganda and power that the individual must place his interests, including his property, beneath the "need" of the collective (state). In our time this is called "in the public interest."

The term "public interest" t***slates into the government interest always. Therefore, the army of federal judges and politicians claim to act in the "public interest," and they would tell you in a minute that they do everything in the "public interest." This is a deception that few unravel mainly because of the self-deception of altruism. As long as an individual believes that he is obligated to share his property and produce for the "common good," he is in reality no longer an individual but a part of the collective s***es of the state. Altruism motivates people to self-sacrifice. This is why altruism is at the root of all governments. Governments must instill self-sacrifice to solidify political power.

Unmasked, democracy is a study of power attained through persuasion instead of physical conquest. Think how many have died for this farce.

The nature of government is to perpetually grow. And the nature of politics and politicians is to seek wealth, power and aggrandizement. They represent government, not you.

Governments and politicians mask their agendas and create illusions to deceive and misrepresent. Governments, bureaucrats and politicians look upon the public as a herd that should be deceived and led for the benefit of government and the elite.

The public has been trained to think in terms of what is legal and what is illegal. The politicians and their elite bosses operate above the law and outside the law. This is contempt for the people.

Protect yourself from the flu (and everything else going around!)

3,000-year-old remedy called "The Pharaoh's Oil" is the health secret of Egyptian Kings... European Queens... and Religious Prophets. It claims to treat almost everything... I was convinced it was nothing but SNAKE OIL! But then it helped me with a dozen health problems I never expected... you won't believe what else...
Politicians, bureaucrats, judges and their friends are untouchables. Yes, occasionally one or two are sacrificed on the altar in the name of "justice," but it is nothing more than a ruse that keeps the system in place.

The saturation point is coming, and it can't be stopped. Sociopathic political behavior self-destructs over time. Satan rends himself. Ethics and decency in politics are anathema. A politician is not a statesman, and a statesman is not a politician.

Politics is power, and politics creates predators. Money has surpassed self-worth and dignity. Politics in America is incest with the government. Do we hear politicians warning Americans that the money creators are destroying their savings, their retirement and their purchasing power, as well as that of future generations?

The system is now beyond resolution. We are in the final stages of economic, social and moral collapse.

Investment banks have made billions while destroying America. They create financial products that are designed to fail, market them to the unsuspecting and then take short positions against them. They are a show-me-the-money culture, and the system protects them in their financial crimes. The great recession is their handiwork.

The word "conspiracy" is an establishment word used to imprison multitudes of nonviolent people (who are not in favor of the power structure) and confiscate their property outright without due process and under a feigned color of law. The politicians know this.

This is no different from the old Star Chamber motivated by the word "treason" (today it is "conspiracy" or even the new slander "Russian asset." Everyone who opposes forever war is a "Russian asset" today). Then came the thumbscrew and the rack to extract confession and an excuse to hang the victim. So what's the difference today?

There are clearly privileged classes in America, those in political power backed by illegal police power. They act against the people outside the law and the Constitution. My friends, it has become so obvious.

While we slept, the political regime has shifted the "burden of proof" to the defendant. One is entrapped, charged and prosecuted under hundreds of laws and statutes he didn't know existed. The "justice" system with its never-empty purse is brought to bear against the "defendant," who often has seen his assets frozen even without a conviction and has been separated from his livelihood, rendering him unable to mount a defense.

This is the new democracy. Democracy is rule of the rabble by the elite.

The possibility of reform has passed. The point of saturation of the full measure of disgust is near. Sparks can trigger revolution.

Morality has collapsed. Politicians, federal judges and prosecutors will eat their young for fiat money, power and aggrandizement. They all have a lawyer Ponzi mentality.

The soul of America has been penetrated with toxic greed. Political rigor mortis is everywhere. The state is collapsing of its own corruption.

Politicians, beware, you "elected" vipers!

Yours for the t***h,
Bob Livingston Alerts br Natural man fears chains ... (show quote)


Some interesting points...

Tell Richard to come on back...

I for one miss his contributions....

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Nov 25, 2019 18:32:53   #
bahmer
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Some interesting points...

Tell Richard to come on back...

I for one miss his contributions....


I will mention it to him.

Reply
 
 
Nov 25, 2019 18:45:46   #
Rose42
 
bahmer wrote:
Bob Livingston Alerts
Natural man fears chains more than he fears propaganda. But propaganda is the far greater despotism.

When men are in chains, they are aware of their s***ery. But few understand the superior power of deception. Most people can be persuaded to do almost anything to their own detriment.

What we believe and act upon we consider our own free will. Nothing could be further from the t***h. We as a people and a nation are subject to massive and continuous propaganda. So programmed are the masses that they become hostile to t***h.

Democracy is a mask, a front for total power of an oligarchy ruling via forced persuasion. Such a system might be tolerable if the oligarchs had the people's best interests at heart. But the focus of forced persuasion is to channel all social, economic and moral law to the federal establishment. The stated altruistic justification is the perpetual utilitarian argument that the majority can require and force the minority to self-sacrifice for what the establishment-created majority has determined to be the greater good.

But altruism is a farce and a ruse. Altruism is the very foundation of statist propaganda and power that the individual must place his interests, including his property, beneath the "need" of the collective (state). In our time this is called "in the public interest."

The term "public interest" t***slates into the government interest always. Therefore, the army of federal judges and politicians claim to act in the "public interest," and they would tell you in a minute that they do everything in the "public interest." This is a deception that few unravel mainly because of the self-deception of altruism. As long as an individual believes that he is obligated to share his property and produce for the "common good," he is in reality no longer an individual but a part of the collective s***es of the state. Altruism motivates people to self-sacrifice. This is why altruism is at the root of all governments. Governments must instill self-sacrifice to solidify political power.

Unmasked, democracy is a study of power attained through persuasion instead of physical conquest. Think how many have died for this farce.

The nature of government is to perpetually grow. And the nature of politics and politicians is to seek wealth, power and aggrandizement. They represent government, not you.

Governments and politicians mask their agendas and create illusions to deceive and misrepresent. Governments, bureaucrats and politicians look upon the public as a herd that should be deceived and led for the benefit of government and the elite.

The public has been trained to think in terms of what is legal and what is illegal. The politicians and their elite bosses operate above the law and outside the law. This is contempt for the people.

Protect yourself from the flu (and everything else going around!)

3,000-year-old remedy called "The Pharaoh's Oil" is the health secret of Egyptian Kings... European Queens... and Religious Prophets. It claims to treat almost everything... I was convinced it was nothing but SNAKE OIL! But then it helped me with a dozen health problems I never expected... you won't believe what else...
Politicians, bureaucrats, judges and their friends are untouchables. Yes, occasionally one or two are sacrificed on the altar in the name of "justice," but it is nothing more than a ruse that keeps the system in place.

The saturation point is coming, and it can't be stopped. Sociopathic political behavior self-destructs over time. Satan rends himself. Ethics and decency in politics are anathema. A politician is not a statesman, and a statesman is not a politician.

Politics is power, and politics creates predators. Money has surpassed self-worth and dignity. Politics in America is incest with the government. Do we hear politicians warning Americans that the money creators are destroying their savings, their retirement and their purchasing power, as well as that of future generations?

The system is now beyond resolution. We are in the final stages of economic, social and moral collapse.

Investment banks have made billions while destroying America. They create financial products that are designed to fail, market them to the unsuspecting and then take short positions against them. They are a show-me-the-money culture, and the system protects them in their financial crimes. The great recession is their handiwork.

The word "conspiracy" is an establishment word used to imprison multitudes of nonviolent people (who are not in favor of the power structure) and confiscate their property outright without due process and under a feigned color of law. The politicians know this.

This is no different from the old Star Chamber motivated by the word "treason" (today it is "conspiracy" or even the new slander "Russian asset." Everyone who opposes forever war is a "Russian asset" today). Then came the thumbscrew and the rack to extract confession and an excuse to hang the victim. So what's the difference today?

There are clearly privileged classes in America, those in political power backed by illegal police power. They act against the people outside the law and the Constitution. My friends, it has become so obvious.

While we slept, the political regime has shifted the "burden of proof" to the defendant. One is entrapped, charged and prosecuted under hundreds of laws and statutes he didn't know existed. The "justice" system with its never-empty purse is brought to bear against the "defendant," who often has seen his assets frozen even without a conviction and has been separated from his livelihood, rendering him unable to mount a defense.

This is the new democracy. Democracy is rule of the rabble by the elite.

The possibility of reform has passed. The point of saturation of the full measure of disgust is near. Sparks can trigger revolution.

Morality has collapsed. Politicians, federal judges and prosecutors will eat their young for fiat money, power and aggrandizement. They all have a lawyer Ponzi mentality.

The soul of America has been penetrated with toxic greed. Political rigor mortis is everywhere. The state is collapsing of its own corruption.

Politicians, beware, you "elected" vipers!

Yours for the t***h,
Bob Livingston Alerts br Natural man fears chains ... (show quote)


I was having this conversation with someone the other day about government. Suffice to say, we are more taught the way to think than to think on our own. No one is immune to propaganda.

Interesting article bahmer. People should give serious thought to it.

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Nov 25, 2019 19:04:52   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
I was having this conversation with someone the other day about government. Suffice to say, we are more taught the way to think than to think on our own. No one is immune to propaganda.

Interesting article bahmer. People should give serious thought to it.


Critical thinking has not been taught in the school systems in Canada since I was in elementary school... Literally the year behind me was when everything changed...

Now it's all about validating opinions and whitewashing (not to mention dubbing down) textbooks...

Sadly this is resulting in a generation of people who can navigate the intricacies of the internet (or the latest video game) but have trouble explaining how they came to a certain conclusion....

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Nov 26, 2019 16:41:01   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
bahmer wrote:
Bob Livingston Alerts
Natural man fears chains more than he fears propaganda. But propaganda is the far greater despotism.

When men are in chains, they are aware of their s***ery. But few understand the superior power of deception. Most people can be persuaded to do almost anything to their own detriment.

What we believe and act upon we consider our own free will. Nothing could be further from the t***h. We as a people and a nation are subject to massive and continuous propaganda. So programmed are the masses that they become hostile to t***h.

Democracy is a mask, a front for total power of an oligarchy ruling via forced persuasion. Such a system might be tolerable if the oligarchs had the people's best interests at heart. But the focus of forced persuasion is to channel all social, economic and moral law to the federal establishment. The stated altruistic justification is the perpetual utilitarian argument that the majority can require and force the minority to self-sacrifice for what the establishment-created majority has determined to be the greater good.

But altruism is a farce and a ruse. Altruism is the very foundation of statist propaganda and power that the individual must place his interests, including his property, beneath the "need" of the collective (state). In our time this is called "in the public interest."

The term "public interest" t***slates into the government interest always. Therefore, the army of federal judges and politicians claim to act in the "public interest," and they would tell you in a minute that they do everything in the "public interest." This is a deception that few unravel mainly because of the self-deception of altruism. As long as an individual believes that he is obligated to share his property and produce for the "common good," he is in reality no longer an individual but a part of the collective s***es of the state. Altruism motivates people to self-sacrifice. This is why altruism is at the root of all governments. Governments must instill self-sacrifice to solidify political power.

Unmasked, democracy is a study of power attained through persuasion instead of physical conquest. Think how many have died for this farce.

The nature of government is to perpetually grow. And the nature of politics and politicians is to seek wealth, power and aggrandizement. They represent government, not you.

Governments and politicians mask their agendas and create illusions to deceive and misrepresent. Governments, bureaucrats and politicians look upon the public as a herd that should be deceived and led for the benefit of government and the elite.

The public has been trained to think in terms of what is legal and what is illegal. The politicians and their elite bosses operate above the law and outside the law. This is contempt for the people.

Protect yourself from the flu (and everything else going around!)

3,000-year-old remedy called "The Pharaoh's Oil" is the health secret of Egyptian Kings... European Queens... and Religious Prophets. It claims to treat almost everything... I was convinced it was nothing but SNAKE OIL! But then it helped me with a dozen health problems I never expected... you won't believe what else...
Politicians, bureaucrats, judges and their friends are untouchables. Yes, occasionally one or two are sacrificed on the altar in the name of "justice," but it is nothing more than a ruse that keeps the system in place.

The saturation point is coming, and it can't be stopped. Sociopathic political behavior self-destructs over time. Satan rends himself. Ethics and decency in politics are anathema. A politician is not a statesman, and a statesman is not a politician.

Politics is power, and politics creates predators. Money has surpassed self-worth and dignity. Politics in America is incest with the government. Do we hear politicians warning Americans that the money creators are destroying their savings, their retirement and their purchasing power, as well as that of future generations?

The system is now beyond resolution. We are in the final stages of economic, social and moral collapse.

Investment banks have made billions while destroying America. They create financial products that are designed to fail, market them to the unsuspecting and then take short positions against them. They are a show-me-the-money culture, and the system protects them in their financial crimes. The great recession is their handiwork.

The word "conspiracy" is an establishment word used to imprison multitudes of nonviolent people (who are not in favor of the power structure) and confiscate their property outright without due process and under a feigned color of law. The politicians know this.

This is no different from the old Star Chamber motivated by the word "treason" (today it is "conspiracy" or even the new slander "Russian asset." Everyone who opposes forever war is a "Russian asset" today). Then came the thumbscrew and the rack to extract confession and an excuse to hang the victim. So what's the difference today?

There are clearly privileged classes in America, those in political power backed by illegal police power. They act against the people outside the law and the Constitution. My friends, it has become so obvious.

While we slept, the political regime has shifted the "burden of proof" to the defendant. One is entrapped, charged and prosecuted under hundreds of laws and statutes he didn't know existed. The "justice" system with its never-empty purse is brought to bear against the "defendant," who often has seen his assets frozen even without a conviction and has been separated from his livelihood, rendering him unable to mount a defense.

This is the new democracy. Democracy is rule of the rabble by the elite.

The possibility of reform has passed. The point of saturation of the full measure of disgust is near. Sparks can trigger revolution.

Morality has collapsed. Politicians, federal judges and prosecutors will eat their young for fiat money, power and aggrandizement. They all have a lawyer Ponzi mentality.

The soul of America has been penetrated with toxic greed. Political rigor mortis is everywhere. The state is collapsing of its own corruption.

Politicians, beware, you "elected" vipers!

Yours for the t***h,
Bob Livingston Alerts br Natural man fears chains ... (show quote)


I agree on some points disagree on others, but all in all it was an interesting post.

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