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Princeton Study: The U.S. Is Not ‘Losing’ Its Democracy, It’s Already Long Gone
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Nov 25, 2019 07:52:27   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
"A study by two political scientists at Princeton and Northwestern, Martin Gilens and Benjamin Page, analyzed 1,779 recent policy outcomes found that “economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy,” while average citizens “have little or no independent influence.”

https://www.collective-evolution.com/2019/11/21/princeton-study-the-u-s-is-not-losing-its-democracy-its-already-long-gone/



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Nov 25, 2019 08:19:53   #
Hug
 
ACP45 wrote:
"A study by two political scientists at Princeton and Northwestern, Martin Gilens and Benjamin Page, analyzed 1,779 recent policy outcomes found that “economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy,” while average citizens “have little or no independent influence.”

https://www.collective-evolution.com/2019/11/21/princeton-study-the-u-s-is-not-losing-its-democracy-its-already-long-gone/


Good Post

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Nov 25, 2019 08:38:15   #
Silent Hammer
 
Socialism diminishes and may extinguish personal incentive for success, charitable giving, national identity, self defense, individual rights as reflected in The Constitution, and teaching about individual spiritual belief. It has been shown to produce national poverty, the prohibition of established religion, execution of the opposed, despotism, dictatorship, starvation and war.

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Nov 25, 2019 08:48:22   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Silent Hammer wrote:
Socialism diminishes and may extinguish personal incentive for success, charitable giving, national identity, self defense, individual rights as reflected in The Constitution, and teaching about individual spiritual belief. It has been shown to produce national poverty, the prohibition of established religion, execution of the opposed, despotism, dictatorship, starvation and war.


Corporatism diminishes and may extinguish personal incentive for success, charitable giving, national identity, self defense, individual rights as reflected in The Constitution, and teaching about individual spiritual belief. It has been shown to produce national poverty, the prohibition of established religion, execution of the opposed, despotism, dictatorship, starvation and war.

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Nov 25, 2019 08:58:17   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
ACP45 wrote:
"A study by two political scientists at Princeton and Northwestern, Martin Gilens and Benjamin Page, analyzed 1,779 recent policy outcomes found that “economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy,” while average citizens “have little or no independent influence.”

https://www.collective-evolution.com/2019/11/21/princeton-study-the-u-s-is-not-losing-its-democracy-its-already-long-gone/


Some of us have been singing that lament for decades.........................to a country full of tone deaf people.

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Nov 25, 2019 09:19:26   #
Lonewolf
 
ACP45 wrote:
"A study by two political scientists at Princeton and Northwestern, Martin Gilens and Benjamin Page, analyzed 1,779 recent policy outcomes found that “economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy,” while average citizens “have little or no independent influence.”

https://www.collective-evolution.com/2019/11/21/princeton-study-the-u-s-is-not-losing-its-democracy-its-already-long-gone/


Good post

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Nov 25, 2019 09:33:14   #
debeda
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Some of us have been singing that lament for decades.........................to a country full of tone deaf people.



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Nov 25, 2019 11:05:27   #
Silent Hammer
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Corporatism diminishes and may extinguish personal incentive for success, charitable giving, national identity, self defense, individual rights as reflected in The Constitution, and teaching about individual spiritual belief. It has been shown to produce national poverty, the prohibition of established religion, execution of the opposed, despotism, dictatorship, starvation and war.


Examples and facts? Cuba, Venezuela, Russia, NoKo., China?

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Nov 25, 2019 16:17:08   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Corporatism diminishes and may extinguish personal incentive for success, charitable giving, national identity, self defense, individual rights as reflected in The Constitution, and teaching about individual spiritual belief. It has been shown to produce national poverty, the prohibition of established religion, execution of the opposed, despotism, dictatorship, starvation and war.


Corporatism - noun

Political / Economic system in which power is exercised through large organizations (businesses, trade unions, their associated lobbying efforts, etc.) working in concert or conflict with each other; usually with the goal of influencing or subsuming the direction of the state and generally only to benefit their own socioeconomic agendas at the expense of the will of the people, and to the detriment of the common good.

The influence of large business corporations in politics.

control of a state or organization by large interest groups

From the article - "The authors make the following observations: Organized groups regularly lobby and fraternize with public officials; move through revolving doors between public and private employment; provide self-serving information to officials; draft legislation; and spend a great deal of money on e******n campaigns.

At its heart, this is a problem of corruption – caused by money in our political system. Such corruption is fundamentally opposed to the ideals of our republic because “the public is likely to be a more certain guardian of its own interests than any feasible alternative.”

For a good example, look no further than the Health Care issue in this country. Between the interests of the pharmaceutical industry, the health insurance industry, the hospital industry, and the medical schools that have adopted the Carnegie's and Rockefeller Foundation's model for western medicine (Flexner Report), we have a broken and exorbitantly expensive health care system that many in this country can't afford.

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Nov 25, 2019 17:10:29   #
Silent Hammer
 
ACP45 wrote:
Corporatism - noun

Political / Economic system in which power is exercised through large organizations (businesses, trade unions, their associated lobbying efforts, etc.) working in concert or conflict with each other; usually with the goal of influencing or subsuming the direction of the state and generally only to benefit their own socioeconomic agendas at the expense of the will of the people, and to the detriment of the common good.

The influence of large business corporations in politics.

control of a state or organization by large interest groups

From the article - "The authors make the following observations: Organized groups regularly lobby and fraternize with public officials; move through revolving doors between public and private employment; provide self-serving information to officials; draft legislation; and spend a great deal of money on e******n campaigns.

At its heart, this is a problem of corruption – caused by money in our political system. Such corruption is fundamentally opposed to the ideals of our republic because “the public is likely to be a more certain guardian of its own interests than any feasible alternative.”

For a good example, look no further than the Health Care issue in this country. Between the interests of the pharmaceutical industry, the health insurance industry, the hospital industry, and the medical schools that have adopted the Carnegie's and Rockefeller Foundation's model for western medicine (Flexner Report), we have a broken and exorbitantly expensive health care system that many in this country can't afford.
Corporatism - noun br br Political / Econom... (show quote)


Agreed (for the most part). What's the solution?

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Nov 25, 2019 17:43:10   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Silent Hammer wrote:
Agreed (for the most part). What's the solution?


More power to States and municipalities...

Limit access to Congress and the POTUS...

Reversal of the ruling that corporations are individuals...

And far more t***sparency concerning corporate practices...

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Nov 25, 2019 17:43:53   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
ACP45 wrote:
Corporatism - noun

Political / Economic system in which power is exercised through large organizations (businesses, trade unions, their associated lobbying efforts, etc.) working in concert or conflict with each other; usually with the goal of influencing or subsuming the direction of the state and generally only to benefit their own socioeconomic agendas at the expense of the will of the people, and to the detriment of the common good.

The influence of large business corporations in politics.

control of a state or organization by large interest groups

From the article - "The authors make the following observations: Organized groups regularly lobby and fraternize with public officials; move through revolving doors between public and private employment; provide self-serving information to officials; draft legislation; and spend a great deal of money on e******n campaigns.

At its heart, this is a problem of corruption – caused by money in our political system. Such corruption is fundamentally opposed to the ideals of our republic because “the public is likely to be a more certain guardian of its own interests than any feasible alternative.”

For a good example, look no further than the Health Care issue in this country. Between the interests of the pharmaceutical industry, the health insurance industry, the hospital industry, and the medical schools that have adopted the Carnegie's and Rockefeller Foundation's model for western medicine (Flexner Report), we have a broken and exorbitantly expensive health care system that many in this country can't afford.
Corporatism - noun br br Political / Econom... (show quote)


Well stated... And good example

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Nov 25, 2019 17:45:03   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Silent Hammer wrote:
Examples and facts? Cuba, Venezuela, Russia, NoKo., China?


Look up the practices of any major corporation...

Don't conflate it with a political system...

Corporations don't outright run countries... Yet...

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Nov 26, 2019 07:00:56   #
Idaho
 
Crack down on political activism amongst the 3 letter agencies. In particular, crack down on interference in the governance of other countries by the CIA.

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Nov 26, 2019 07:36:54   #
Hug
 
Idaho wrote:
Crack down on political activism amongst the 3 letter agencies. In particular, crack down on interference in the governance of other countries by the CIA.


We need honest politicians for oversight. Where do we find honest politicians?

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