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Nov 22, 2019 21:34:17   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
working class stiff wrote:
Oh, my gawd. Now I know the t***h....Obama wanted Mrs. Clinton to win the e******n and supported her.

That is unexpected. What a scandal indeed.
No one but you is responsible for allowing yourself to be deceived. Your denial of the facts is on your shoulders.

Conspiracy To O*******w President Trump Is Exposed

November 14, 2016: Hillary camp’s plot to O*******W e******n.

Obstruction of Justice and the Conspiracy to O*******w a Lawfully Elected President

What to Expect When You're Expecting FISA Abuse

Criminal Referral Confirms Explosive FISA Abuse Memo

House Intel Report Exposes Massive FISA Abuses

John Durham opens criminal inquiry in DOJ’s investigation of the investigators




Did Obama, Brennan And Clinton Illegally Collude To Take Trump Down?

Russia Investigation: As the saying goes, a fish rots from the head down. Well, so do bad governments. Recent revelations about the behavior of President Obama and his CIA director John Brennan in pushing the bogus Russian collusion investigation suggest that's been the case.

The release of the FISA application by the FBI to investigate alleged collusion between Russia and President Trump's campaign and recent comments made by top officials are eye opening.

Not only did President Obama know about the investigation, he seems to have pushed it from the very beginning.

But don't take our word for it. Here's what Obama's Director of National Intelligence, the nation's former spy master, James Clapper, told CNN's Anderson Cooper:

"If it weren't for President Obama we might not have done the intelligence community assessment that we did that set up a whole sequence of event which are still unfolding today, including Special Counsel (Robert) Mueller's investigation. President Obama is responsible for that. It was he who tasked us to do that intelligence community assessment in the first place."

Why didn't this get more attention in the media? Obama and Brennan not only knew the dubious nature of the allegations against Trump, but pushed them anyway.

As Kimberley Strassel wrote in the Wall Street Journal, Brennan in particular has revealed himself to be a total anti-Trump partisan to an extent that's shocking for a public official. His animus is raw and deep, as his actions suggest.

"The record shows (Brennan) went on to use his position — as head of the most powerful spy agency in the world — to assist Hillary Clinton's campaign (and keep his job)," Kimberley Strassel wrote last week in the Wall Street Journal.

Brennan's manic partisanship could be seen last week in an over-the-top, bizarrely unhinged tweet following Trump's press conference after his mini-summit with Vladimir Putin. Brennan called Trump's remarks "nothing short of treasonous" and said they exceeded "the threshold of 'high crimes & misdemeanors.' "

Russia Scandal: Did Hillary Clinton Run FBI's Trump Investigation?

While Brennan's h**e for the GOP nominee may be public now, it wasn't in the summer of 2016. His evidence for collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia was so weak neither the FBI nor Clapper would commit to it.

Knowing his role as CIA head forbade him from intervening in domestic spying and trying to take the investigation from a low simmer to a high boil, Brennan got the ball rolling in August of 2016 by telling thenformer Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid a tale of Russians interfering in our e******n on Trump's behalf.

It worked. Pushed on by Brennan, Reid, then the most powerful person in Congress, wrote a letter to FBI Director James Comey citing "evidence of a direct connection" between the Trump campaign and seeking an investigation.

Not only did Brennan share intelligence with the FBI, but soon after, the Democrat-linked opposition research firm Fusion GPS began leaking the "Trump Dossier" to the media. The fix was in.

As the release late last week of the FBI's FISA court application used to spy on former Trump aide Carter Page indicates, the dossier was used extensively for the application. That's contrary to what the FBI had maintained.

Moreover, an influential article written by Michael Isikoff detailing the dossier's contents and Harry Reid's letter to the FBI were likewise used to get approval for the FISA court application.

What do they all have in common? They all go back to the same phony dossier, written by former British spy Christopher Steele for Fusion GPS. It was never verified or validated by the FBI. It was bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton and her pals at the Democratic National Committee, solely to smear Trump.

The FBI Misled The Court To Wiretap Trump Campaign, FISA Application Shows

Give Hillary credit: She was adept at insinuating her phony oppo research document into the public record and at using it to weaponize U.S. intelligence agencies on behalf of her failed campaign.

But then, we all knew this had happened. What's stunning is the casual way Clapper let us know that President Obama "was responsible" for the whole shebang.

If that's so, there are really only two possibilities:

One, that a gullible Obama was fed phony information from Brennan and the Hillary Clinton campaign. He then over-reacted by tasking the intelligence community to look into it.

Or, two, that Obama knew he was dealing with tainted information. Instead of halting a bogus investigation, he let Brennan carry it forward. Why? He thought it would help elect Hillary Clinton — and cement his own p**********l legacy for posterity.

At a minimum, what seems obvious is that the deep state triad of Obama, Clinton and Brennan colluded. They did it to damage Trump's campaign with allegations of Russian interference in the e******n. And they got the FBI and, later, a special prosecutor, to conduct a high-profile investigation.

Such collusion, if only in the political sphere, wouldn't be a crime. However, using federal assets and personnel and misrepresenting what you're doing to a FISA court to influence an e******n are crimes. Felonies, in fact.

Investigation Without End

The investigation of Trump is now entering its third year with nothing to show for the effort. We don't know if there'll be some kind of sweeping indictment released by Mueller just before the midterm e******ns, but given the degree of politicization of this investigation so far it wouldn't surprise us at all.

But instead of investigating Trump, shouldn't we investigate those who subverted our democracy for rank partisan purposes to influence a p**********l e******n? That's Obama, Brennan and Clinton.

Questions abound: Did they plan this? Who coordinated it all? Did they do it all with a nod and a wink to keep it clean? Or did they meet and discuss it? Or did it all come together at the insistent prodding of a virulently anti-Trump Brennan? America needs to know.

Removing security clearances for those in the Obama administration who lied or were guilty of misconduct and political bias would be a minimum. These crimes, if real, are bigger than Watergate.

The only real question is whether our justice system is too c*********d to bring those who committed real crimes, not imaginary ones, to justice. And whether our equally c*********d and biased media are capable of reporting it.



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Nov 22, 2019 21:45:28   #
Rose42
 
woodguru wrote:
I get a little bit nervous by ignorant people who form beliefs rather than intelligent reason, Hitler got a bit out of hand because enough believers went along with and supported him. The blind support involved here should worry people.


Hitler fooled many people just like you and rumi. And they loved him.

Blindness is bipartisan. Democrats want more and more government control and that won’t end well. The House also wants to reauthorize the Patriot Act. Democrats are being played the same as republicans.

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Nov 22, 2019 21:47:28   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
The only thing I deny is right wing conspiracy theories.

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Nov 22, 2019 21:50:19   #
Rose42
 
working class stiff wrote:
The only thing I deny is right wing conspiracy theories.


You have to admit some are entertaining.

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Nov 22, 2019 22:20:18   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
The Right allows this in quiet agreement out of h**e for Liberals but this "quiet agreement" acts as h**e or disrespect for American decency, values, principles and laws. The president is setting the bar as low as it can go (presently, only a snake, a skinny snake, can get under it) and we may never raise it again as his amoral, con man character becomes the new norm for politics in this nation and the Right fails to speak t***h to power, in order to preserve and protect this country, just to watch the Liberal suffer. It is so outrageous I can barely breathe at times. Remember again: it can happen here...and it may already have.
The Right allows this in quiet agreement out of h*... (show quote)


Actually, Trump is raising the bar for corruption AND benefiting from it. Since Trump isn't in on the s**mming by politicians from abroad, he has no issues with exposing it. Another reason why we v**ed for the guy who couldn't be bought!

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Nov 22, 2019 22:27:15   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
The Right allows this in quiet agreement out of h**e for Liberals but this "quiet agreement" acts as h**e or disrespect for American decency, values, principles and laws. The president is setting the bar as low as it can go (presently, only a snake, a skinny snake, can get under it) and we may never raise it again as his amoral, con man character becomes the new norm for politics in this nation and the Right fails to speak t***h to power, in order to preserve and protect this country, just to watch the Liberal suffer. It is so outrageous I can barely breathe at times. Remember again: it can happen here...and it may already have.
The Right allows this in quiet agreement out of h*... (show quote)


It's a damn shame you live your life full of fear, anger, and hatred for regular people who disagree with your political beliefs.
Maybe you should try something new. Something like life. Pet a dog, pick a flower, step on ants, take a shower, and go out among the people.
Go find some right wing nut job Trump supporter with a family, visit with them, then go pet their horse, and just listen to him chew his hay for a while.
Sleep in their home, and wake up to bacon cooking inside, and quail calling outside.
Watch the sleepy little ones come to breakfast, and bask in the warmth, love, and care of a right wing nut job Trump supporting family.

Oops!! I used the F word, huh? My bad.
But, I won't apologize, because I firmly believe that core families are the backbone of this nation.
Your side doesn't seem to feel that way.

Tell you what....you leave us be, and we'll do the same for you provided that we keep government out of it.
Now, if you choose to use government to force us into your utopian view of things, we will naturally balk, because we are happy, and just fine.

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Nov 22, 2019 22:52:19   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
Hitler fooled many people just like you and rumi. And they loved him.

Blindness is bipartisan. Democrats want more and more government control and that won’t end well. The House also wants to reauthorize the Patriot Act. Democrats are being played the same as republicans.


Wow, I would have said the same: "Hitler fooled many people...and they loved him> like blind Trump Supporters.

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Nov 22, 2019 23:17:00   #
rumitoid
 
archie bunker wrote:
It's a damn shame you live your life full of fear, anger, and hatred for regular people who disagree with your political beliefs.
Maybe you should try something new. Something like life. Pet a dog, pick a flower, step on ants, take a shower, and go out among the people.
Go find some right wing nut job Trump supporter with a family, visit with them, then go pet their horse, and just listen to him chew his hay for a while.
Sleep in their home, and wake up to bacon cooking inside, and quail calling outside.
Watch the sleepy little ones come to breakfast, and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_oFL_b719

Oops!! I used the F word, huh? My bad.
But, I won't apologize, because I firmly believe that core families are the backbone of this nation.
Your side doesn't seem to feel that way.

Tell you what....you leave us be, and we'll do the same for you provided that we keep government out of it.
Now, if you choose to use government to force us into your utopian view of things, we will naturally balk, because we are happy, and just fine.
It's a damn shame you live your life full of fear,... (show quote)


Very comforting and Norman Rockwill perfect. Nice lullaby, to "Pet a dog, pick a flower, step on ants, take a shower, and go out among the people." But true. I had a nice vacation a few months back with all the people you promote; my roadmate friend right of Genghis Khan. It was so luxurious. Never felt better among people. My America from the Fifties. Felt like I was home again. Just wanted to be embraced and held...but there was a serious problem. Would love to ignore it and get swallowed in all the love, yet that is what makes a liberal. We want to be miserable, I guess.

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Nov 23, 2019 06:44:48   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Wow, I would have said the same: "Hitler fooled many people...and they loved him> like blind Trump Supporters.


And blind l*****ts full of h**e. You’re no different really. You call all Trump supporters blind but they aren’t.

You need to let go of your bitterness. Your posts all have the same theme.

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Nov 23, 2019 08:52:27   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
archie bunker wrote:
It's a damn shame you live your life full of fear, anger, and hatred for regular people who disagree with your political beliefs.
Maybe you should try something new. Something like life. Pet a dog, pick a flower, step on ants, take a shower, and go out among the people.
Go find some right wing nut job Trump supporter with a family, visit with them, then go pet their horse, and just listen to him chew his hay for a while.
Sleep in their home, and wake up to bacon cooking inside, and quail calling outside.
Watch the sleepy little ones come to breakfast, and bask in the warmth, love, and care of a right wing nut job Trump supporting family.

Oops!! I used the F word, huh? My bad.
But, I won't apologize, because I firmly believe that core families are the backbone of this nation.
Your side doesn't seem to feel that way.

Tell you what....you leave us be, and we'll do the same for you provided that we keep government out of it.
Now, if you choose to use government to force us into your utopian view of things, we will naturally balk, because we are happy, and just fine.
It's a damn shame you live your life full of fear,... (show quote)


(with the exception of 'your side doesn't seem to feel that way'. Seems gratuitous...but generally sound advice.)

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Nov 23, 2019 09:13:24   #
Cuda2020
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
No one but you is responsible for allowing yourself to be deceived. Your denial of the facts is on your shoulders.


Good advice, you should heed.

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Nov 23, 2019 09:37:52   #
Rose42
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Good advice, you should heed.


As should you. As should everyone.

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Nov 23, 2019 09:47:37   #
Cuda2020
 
archie bunker wrote:
It's a damn shame you live your life full of fear, anger, and hatred for regular people who disagree with your political beliefs.
Maybe you should try something new. Something like life. Pet a dog, pick a flower, step on ants, take a shower, and go out among the people.
Go find some right wing nut job Trump supporter with a family, visit with them, then go pet their horse, and just listen to him chew his hay for a while.
Sleep in their home, and wake up to bacon cooking inside, and quail calling outside.
Watch the sleepy little ones come to breakfast, and bask in the warmth, love, and care of a right wing nut job Trump supporting family.

Oops!! I used the F word, huh? My bad.
But, I won't apologize, because I firmly believe that core families are the backbone of this nation.
Your side doesn't seem to feel that way.

Tell you what....you leave us be, and we'll do the same for you provided that we keep government out of it.
Now, if you choose to use government to force us into your utopian view of things, we will naturally balk, because we are happy, and just fine.
It's a damn shame you live your life full of fear,... (show quote)


You were doing ok until you had to slap in the contentious remark that we don't seem to feel that way, which of course is not true and I think you know it, and... as you would like us to extend a hand to the right, I think it would be very apropos for your side to do the same, maybe then we could finally reconnect and repair this discord that has been manufactured and promoted by our true enemies.

Force our utopian views? Are you referring to ensure everyone has equal rights, which is what the LBGT movement is simply about? And who are the people wielding big government with attempting to force big government over a womans right over her own body? That's a Pandor's box you never want to open. Where then does that end?

You want to balk, balk away, balking is a good thing in a free country, but, at the end of the day let's take off our mitts come together and shake hands. Hope this wasn't too Kumbaya for ya, but we are falling "apart."

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Nov 23, 2019 09:49:20   #
Cuda2020
 
Rose42 wrote:
As should you. As should everyone.


Glad you included yourself on that one.

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Nov 23, 2019 10:06:45   #
Cuda2020
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Actually, Trump is raising the bar for corruption AND benefiting from it. Since Trump isn't in on the s**mming by politicians from abroad, he has no issues with exposing it. Another reason why we v**ed for the guy who couldn't be bought!


That comment is literally Un- Believable, Holy Cow LOL

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