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How Did America Come To This
Nov 18, 2019 23:03:13   #
buddy42 Loc: Bonita Springs, Fl
 
An outsiders take on what has and is going on in America's politics. It couldn't be stated any simpler or more correct.

https://canadafreepress.com/article/how-did-america-come-to-this

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Nov 19, 2019 01:59:36   #
PeterS
 
buddy42 wrote:
An outsiders take on what has and is going on in America's politics. It couldn't be stated any simpler or more correct.

https://canadafreepress.com/article/how-did-america-come-to-this


Snip>>>So moving away from the red herring of moral outrage, we come to the actual reason the Left despises the President. Trump embodies everything the Washington establishment has always feared; an outsider with the legitimate authority and power to expose the crooked system from the inside.

I thought I would start with this because Trump sent Rick Perry to Volodymyr Zelensky's inauguration as president of Ukraine and accompanying Perry was to of his Oil and Gas buddies from Texas whom Perry introduced to Ukrainian officials whereby the two then gained bid's on Ukrainian oil and gas ventures, that they were then awarded contracts, even though their payments to Ukraine was to be lower than other bidders.

So here we have a country desperate for money and they are awarding contracts to (friends of the administration) that will cost the Ukraine millions in the future. Now at question was H****r B***ns 50 K a month none of which was paid by the Ukrainians or the US and we are talking about corruption amongst Democrats?

I mention this because your author's argument is that Democrats were afraid Trump would expose the crooked system (presumably liberals) when this is but one example, no doubt of many, of how Trump and his cronies are as bad or worse than Democrats ever dreamt they could be. Now, remember, Trump's argument for requesting an investigation into the Bidens was for supposed corruption in Ukraine when, ironically, they themselves [Ukraine] were required to be corrupt just to deal with Trump and his crooked administration.

Your author then tries to lay all this corruption at the feet of the Obama administration. This is just typical conservative finger-pointing all designed to avoid accepting responsibility for the damage they themselves have done.

So "how did we come to this" well you can start with the complete and total dishonesty displayed by conservatives in everything they do.

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Nov 19, 2019 09:29:22   #
Lonewolf
 
PeterS wrote:
Snip>>>So moving away from the red herring of moral outrage, we come to the actual reason the Left despises the President. Trump embodies everything the Washington establishment has always feared; an outsider with the legitimate authority and power to expose the crooked system from the inside.

I thought I would start with this because Trump sent Rick Perry to Volodymyr Zelensky's inauguration as president of Ukraine and accompanying Perry was to of his Oil and Gas buddies from Texas whom Perry introduced to Ukrainian officials whereby the two then gained bid's on Ukrainian oil and gas ventures, that they were then awarded contracts, even though their payments to Ukraine was to be lower than other bidders.

So here we have a country desperate for money and they are awarding contracts to (friends of the administration) that will cost the Ukraine millions in the future. Now at question was H****r B***ns 50 K a month none of which was paid by the Ukrainians or the US and we are talking about corruption amongst Democrats?

I mention this because your author's argument is that Democrats were afraid Trump would expose the crooked system (presumably liberals) when this is but one example, no doubt of many, of how Trump and his cronies are as bad or worse than Democrats ever dreamt they could be. Now, remember, Trump's argument for requesting an investigation into the Bidens was for supposed corruption in Ukraine when, ironically, they themselves [Ukraine] were required to be corrupt just to deal with Trump and his crooked administration.

Your author then tries to lay all this corruption at the feet of the Obama administration. This is just typical conservative finger-pointing all designed to avoid accepting responsibility for the damage they themselves have done.

So "how did we come to this" well you can start with the complete and total dishonesty displayed by conservatives in everything they do.
Snip>>> b i So moving away from the red ... (show quote)



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Nov 19, 2019 09:54:33   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
buddy42 wrote:
An outsiders take on what has and is going on in America's politics. It couldn't be stated any simpler or more correct.

https://canadafreepress.com/article/how-did-america-come-to-this


Good article. I have heard much the same from many I know who live in Canada and the EU. It's a hard one for the Obama worshipers t swallow.

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Nov 19, 2019 21:55:42   #
buddy42 Loc: Bonita Springs, Fl
 
PeterS wrote:
Snip>>>So moving away from the red herring of moral outrage, we come to the actual reason the Left despises the President. Trump embodies everything the Washington establishment has always feared; an outsider with the legitimate authority and power to expose the crooked system from the inside.

I thought I would start with this because Trump sent Rick Perry to Volodymyr Zelensky's inauguration as president of Ukraine and accompanying Perry was to of his Oil and Gas buddies from Texas whom Perry introduced to Ukrainian officials whereby the two then gained bid's on Ukrainian oil and gas ventures, that they were then awarded contracts, even though their payments to Ukraine was to be lower than other bidders.

So here we have a country desperate for money and they are awarding contracts to (friends of the administration) that will cost the Ukraine millions in the future. Now at question was H****r B***ns 50 K a month none of which was paid by the Ukrainians or the US and we are talking about corruption amongst Democrats?

I mention this because your author's argument is that Democrats were afraid Trump would expose the crooked system (presumably liberals) when this is but one example, no doubt of many, of how Trump and his cronies are as bad or worse than Democrats ever dreamt they could be. Now, remember, Trump's argument for requesting an investigation into the Bidens was for supposed corruption in Ukraine when, ironically, they themselves [Ukraine] were required to be corrupt just to deal with Trump and his crooked administration.

Your author then tries to lay all this corruption at the feet of the Obama administration. This is just typical conservative finger-pointing all designed to avoid accepting responsibility for the damage they themselves have done.

So "how did we come to this" well you can start with the complete and total dishonesty displayed by conservatives in everything they do.
Snip>>> b i So moving away from the red ... (show quote)


Do you feel better now that you have shown that the other author didn't know what he was talking about!
Innuendos and no proof. You need to do better than that Peter. You do know that someone not in the game knows much more and sees much more than others blinded by loyalty.

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Nov 19, 2019 21:58:33   #
buddy42 Loc: Bonita Springs, Fl
 
Thanks,

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