Is A******n Healthcare??
Nov 16, 2019 09:59:00 #
Nov 16, 2019 12:24:40 #
crazylibertarian wrote:
There is a crucial aspect to adoption. If the wom... (show quote)
The child is only separated at birth if that’s what the mother wants. Although this was the practice, today there are many alternatives, up to and including, visitation. The mother and the adoptive parents can negotiate what ever arrangements they want . These days the mother even has the option of choosing the adoptive family.
Nov 16, 2019 13:19:17 #
crazylibertarian
Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
Saspatz007 wrote:
The child is only separated at birth if that’s what the mother wants. Although this was the practice, today there are many alternatives, up to and including, visitation. The mother and the adoptive parents can negotiate what ever arrangements they want . These days the mother even has the option of choosing the adoptive family.
That has to be a fairly recent change.
Once more though, this shows the crucial roles the mother plays; the father is not involved.
Nov 16, 2019 15:05:50 #
crazylibertarian wrote:
That has to be a fairly recent change.
Once more though, this shows the crucial roles the mother plays; the father is not involved.
Once more though, this shows the crucial roles the mother plays; the father is not involved.
The father and mother both must abdicate their respective parental rights, separately or together. Certain good faith efforts to notify and include him in the cases of such adoptions must be undergone and documented before a court will move to terminate his rights in his absence due to abandonment.
Nov 16, 2019 16:33:38 #
Singularity wrote:
I thought it was clear that I was responding to th... (show quote)
That's awesome! You have my complete admiration for the effort you put into improving the situation for young pregnant mothers. The only reason why this doesn't change my position is because I know there are far more unwanted pregnancies than there are people like you with the facilities and the will to solve so many of the problems caused by unwanted pregnancy. It's just an unfortunate reality.
I encourage advocates on both sides of the issue to shift some of their resources from the political slap fight to improving public awareness of alternatives like yours. It may not be enough to prevent all the a******ns (legal or not) but it can at least help prevent some. As far as I am concerned, it would be worth the effort the moment a single life is spared.
Nov 16, 2019 16:39:16 #
Saspatz007 wrote:
This was actually very rare. When a******n was not available, women would almost always carry the child to term. In most cases, if the child was really unwanted, it would be put up for adoption.
Don't be an i***t. You can't know what you don't see. There is enough evidence out there to know illegal a******ns did happen and since illegal activity is almost always hidden, no one can say "oh, ya know they were actually very rare." That's what you call, talking out of your ass.
Nov 16, 2019 16:41:57 #
Nov 16, 2019 20:42:46 #
crazylibertarian
Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
Singularity wrote:
The father and mother both must abdicate their respective parental rights, separately or together. Certain good faith efforts to notify and include him in the cases of such adoptions must be undergone and documented before a court will move to terminate his rights in his absence due to abandonment.
Good addendum. If the father is involved that is a refreshing change. One thing though, I believe the father is never required to approve in the decision for an a******n.
Nov 17, 2019 00:01:35 #
straightUp wrote:
That's awesome! You have my complete admiration fo... (show quote)
There are thousands of outfits that provide these services . All she has to do is go to a Catholic Church, crisis pregnancy center or social services and she will be referred.
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Nov 17, 2019 00:08:32 #
straightUp wrote:
Don't be an i***t. You can't know what you don't see. There is enough evidence out there to know illegal a******ns did happen and since illegal activity is almost always hidden, no one can say "oh, ya know they were actually very rare." That's what you call, talking out of your ass.
You can’t know the real numbers either but I am going the medical estimates assessed at the time based on the number of admissions for complications related to these procedures and autopsy results indicating a botched a******n.
Nov 17, 2019 00:11:40 #
crazylibertarian wrote:
Good addendum. If the father is involved that is a refreshing change. One thing though, I believe the father is never required to approve in the decision for an a******n.
Yes he must sign away his parental rights unless he avoids it altogether in which case he loses those rights on the basis of abandonment.
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