woodguru

The GOP defense strategy has been leaked, and it hinges on four points...rhetorical talking points because they have no basis in reality or facts. So then it only remains to be seen how many people are stupid ignorant enough to believe it.

Now for anyone who wants to be seen as using their common sense and intelligence you would be starting off knowing that the GOP needs to step their game up and defend against a far more damaging set of facts and reality as they are addressing with the, "there was nothing wrong with the conversation" defense.

They intend to go on and on repeating that it was done in secrecy and Schiff is leaking cherry picked sound bites, even though he is releasing everything, and there were as many republicans and staffers in attendance as democrats.

Here are the four already corrected talking points...
...the July 25th call shows no "conditionality or evidence of pressure." [i]when Zelenskiy asked abput anti tank weapons is when trump told him, "I would need you to do us a favor though", trump repeatedly mentioned investigations into the Bidens. The testimonies given by others including Sondland show solid pressure into just that, in fact this whole thing is about state department people including Bolton knowing this was wrong.
...Ukrainian president Zelenskiy and trump have both said there was no pressure on the call. right, like Zelenskiy was going to call trump a liar and say yes he felt pressured when the aid was obviously up to trump, and anyone who buys into that is as dumb as trump thinks his supporters are
...the Ukrainian government was not aware of the hold on the military assistance at the time of the call. Multiple reports have shown that the Ukraine was aware of the hold very early in the process, the AP had reported that Ukraine was already fretting about the Biden probe trump wanted as early back as May, they did not want anything to do with interfering with the 2020 e******ns.
...Trump and Zelenskiy ultimately met and US assistance flowed to the Ukraine in September, both which happened without the Ukraine investigating trump's political rivals. Their final talking point rests on their rhetorical point that everything turned out okay, there was no investigation release, and funds flowed into Ukraine. Yet another major work of rhetorical BS as it took some scrambling to make it happen before the funds expired as they would by the end of September. Also this fails to mention that Russians took over parts of the eastern Ukraine and the Ukrainians were forced to withdraw their defenses due to a lack of military support.

So, we are either going to either see people who have been too ignorant to follow the facts as they evolve, who will let republicans continue to go on about these already dead talking points, or people will know they are lying and failing to actually offer a defense for damaging facts. There is only one reason to refuse to follow facts, and that's because they know they are bad, and ignorance allows them to keep denying the t***h.

Smedley_buzkill

[quote=woodguru]The GOP defense strategy has been leaked, and it hinges on four points...rhetorical talking points because they have no basis in reality or facts. So then it only remains to be seen how many people are stupid ignorant enough to believe it.

Now for anyone who wants to be seen as using their common sense and intelligence you would be starting off knowing that the GOP needs to step their game up and defend against a far more damaging set of facts and reality as they are addressing with the, "there was nothing wrong with the conversation" defense.

They intend to go on and on repeating that it was done in secrecy and Schiff is leaking cherry picked sound bites, even though he is releasing everything, and there were as many republicans and staffers in attendance as democrats.

Here are the four already corrected talking points...
...the July 25th call shows no "conditionality or evidence of pressure." [i]when Zelenskiy asked abput anti tank weapons is when trump told him, "I would need you to do us a favor though", trump repeatedly mentioned investigations into the Bidens. The testimonies given by others including Sondland show solid pressure into just that, in fact this whole thing is about state department people including Bolton knowing this was wrong.
...Ukrainian president Zelenskiy and trump have both said there was no pressure on the call. right, like Zelenskiy was going to call trump a liar and say yes he felt pressured when the aid was obviously up to trump, and anyone who buys into that is as dumb as trump thinks his supporters are
...the Ukrainian government was not aware of the hold on the military assistance at the time of the call. Multiple reports have shown that the Ukraine was aware of the hold very early in the process, the AP had reported that Ukraine was already fretting about the Biden probe trump wanted as early back as May, they did not want anything to do with interfering with the 2020 e******ns.
...Trump and Zelenskiy ultimately met and US assistance flowed to the Ukraine in September, both which happened without the Ukraine investigating trump's political rivals. Their final talking point rests on their rhetorical point that everything turned out okay, there was no investigation release, and funds flowed into Ukraine. Yet another major work of rhetorical BS as it took some scrambling to make it happen before the funds expired as they would by the end of September. Also this fails to mention that Russians took over parts of the eastern Ukraine and the Ukrainians were forced to withdraw their defenses due to a lack of military support.

So, we are either going to either see people who have been too ignorant to follow the facts as they evolve, who will let republicans continue to go on about these already dead talking points, or people will know they are lying and failing to actually offer a defense for damaging facts. There is only one reason to refuse to follow facts, and that's because they know they are bad, and ignorance allows them to keep denying the t***h.[/quote]

You seem to be describing one of your more obvious problem areas.

woodguru

Yeah right, watch the hearings