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Nov 6, 2019 07:18:26   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
What do these two things mean, and how are they utilized to manipulate us?

Lets use two examples to illustrate these concepts.

1. The imprisonment and persecution of Julian Assange:
If you are a Trump supporter - "Assange needs to be punished for publishing US military secrets, arguing that Trump is actually just trying to force Assange to give up his sources for the 2016 publications (as though a president coercing a journalist to give up a source with the threat of life in prison would be perfectly fine and constitutional), and claiming Assange’s persecution is coming exclusively from the UK and not the US (the US extradition request is the only reason for his continued imprisonment and US officials are openly giving instructions to British prosecutors in the courtroom)."

If you are a staunch liberal or member of the far left - "Because of the Russiagate psyop and its related mass media smear campaign, liberals who once celebrated Assange for his publications on Bush administration war crimes now celebrate a Trump administration agenda to imprison a journalist for publishing inconvenient t***hs. L*****ts targeted with other smears believe he’s a f*****t and a rapist. Paranoid types believe he’s a CIA asset and “controlled opposition“, even as he’s being tortured to death by the empire he supposedly serves."

2. The continued illegal US occupation of Syria:
If you are a Trump supporter or staunch liberal or member of the far left -
"US troops need to be in Syria because of humanitarian concerns. US troops need to be in Syria because of chemical weapons. US troops need to be in Syria to stop ISIS. US troops need to be in Syria to counter Iranian influence. US troops need to be in Syria to counter Russian influence. US troops need to be in Syria to protect the Kurds. US troops need to be in Syria because of oil. There’s a different reason for every ideological echo chamber.

But take away the narrative soundtrack and what do you have? US troops staying in Syria. That tells you what this is actually about."

"The whole propaganda matrix works this way: people are actively herded into conflicting ideological echo chambers, and the “us versus them” mentality which that conflict eng****rs creates strong identification with and loyalty to that tribe. From there it’s just a matter of giving people narratives which allow them to self-gaslight in a way that protects those identification structures."

"The difference between state media and western media is that in state media the government controls what information the public is given about what's going on in the world in order to prevent political dissent, whereas in western media this is instead done by billionaires."

Forgive me for doing an injustice to the work of Caitlin Johnson. If you find this helpful, please read her complete posts below:

https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/11/06/propaganda-narratives-are-custom-made-for-each-ideological-echo-chamber/

Society Is Made Of Narrative - The oligarchs - master manipulators.
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/society-is-made-of-narrative-realizing-this-is-awakening-from-the-matrix-787c7e2539ae



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Nov 6, 2019 07:32:35   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
ACP45 wrote:
What do these two things mean, and how are they utilized to manipulate us?

Lets use two examples to illustrate these concepts.

1. The imprisonment and persecution of Julian Assange:
If you are a Trump supporter - "Assange needs to be punished for publishing US military secrets, arguing that Trump is actually just trying to force Assange to give up his sources for the 2016 publications (as though a president coercing a journalist to give up a source with the threat of life in prison would be perfectly fine and constitutional), and claiming Assange’s persecution is coming exclusively from the UK and not the US (the US extradition request is the only reason for his continued imprisonment and US officials are openly giving instructions to British prosecutors in the courtroom)."

If you are a staunch liberal or member of the far left - "Because of the Russiagate psyop and its related mass media smear campaign, liberals who once celebrated Assange for his publications on Bush administration war crimes now celebrate a Trump administration agenda to imprison a journalist for publishing inconvenient t***hs. L*****ts targeted with other smears believe he’s a f*****t and a rapist. Paranoid types believe he’s a CIA asset and “controlled opposition“, even as he’s being tortured to death by the empire he supposedly serves."

2. The continued illegal US occupation of Syria:
If you are a Trump supporter or staunch liberal or member of the far left -
"US troops need to be in Syria because of humanitarian concerns. US troops need to be in Syria because of chemical weapons. US troops need to be in Syria to stop ISIS. US troops need to be in Syria to counter Iranian influence. US troops need to be in Syria to counter Russian influence. US troops need to be in Syria to protect the Kurds. US troops need to be in Syria because of oil. There’s a different reason for every ideological echo chamber.

But take away the narrative soundtrack and what do you have? US troops staying in Syria. That tells you what this is actually about."

"The whole propaganda matrix works this way: people are actively herded into conflicting ideological echo chambers, and the “us versus them” mentality which that conflict eng****rs creates strong identification with and loyalty to that tribe. From there it’s just a matter of giving people narratives which allow them to self-gaslight in a way that protects those identification structures."

"The difference between state media and western media is that in state media the government controls what information the public is given about what's going on in the world in order to prevent political dissent, whereas in western media this is instead done by billionaires."

Forgive me for doing an injustice to the work of Caitlin Johnson. If you find this helpful, please read her complete posts below:

https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/11/06/propaganda-narratives-are-custom-made-for-each-ideological-echo-chamber/

Society Is Made Of Narrative - The oligarchs - master manipulators.
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/society-is-made-of-narrative-realizing-this-is-awakening-from-the-matrix-787c7e2539ae
What do these two things mean, and how are they ut... (show quote)


Well stated...

Assange is a t*****r in my opinion...

The US needs to remove itself from the ME...

Good article

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Nov 6, 2019 07:42:37   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
PS: "It sure is cute how we've known for years that the US and its allies armed actual, literal terrorists in Syria with the goal of effecting regime change, yet the only Syria controversy we're ever allowed to acknowledge is whether there are an adequate number of US troops there."

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Nov 6, 2019 07:43:31   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
ACP45 wrote:
PS: "It sure is cute how we've known for years that the US and its allies armed actual, literal terrorists in Syria with the goal of effecting regime change, yet the only Syria controversy we're ever allowed to acknowledge is whether there are an adequate number of US troops there."


True that

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Nov 6, 2019 07:44:24   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Well stated...

Assange is a t*****r in my opinion...

The US needs to remove itself from the ME...

Good article


I'm sure we could have an interesting discussion the the issue of whether Assange is a "t*****r" or hero.

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Nov 6, 2019 07:51:22   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
ACP45 wrote:
I'm sure we could have an interesting discussion the the issue of whether Assange is a "t*****r" or hero.


Absolutely....

And I will admit that there is a good chance you could sway me, as I have never been 100% comfortable with my labeling him a t*****r..

Perhaps via PM?

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Nov 6, 2019 08:00:40   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
PSS: # 3 in the above graphic of media Corporations that seek to control the narrative!

"Amy Robach, ‘Good Morning America’ Co-Host and Breaking News Anchor at ABC, explains how a witness came forward years ago with information pertaining to Epstein, but Disney-owned ABC News refused to air the material for years. Robach vents her anger in a “hot mic” moment with an off-camera producer, explaining that ABC quashed the story in it’s early stages. “I've had this interview with Virginia Roberts (Now Virginia Guiffre) [alleged Epstein victim]. We would not put it on the air. Um, first of all, I was told “Who's Jeffrey Epstein. No one knows who that is. This is a stupid story.”

She continues, “The Palace found out that we had her whole allegations about Prince Andrew and threatened us a million different ways.” -Project Veritas

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Nov 7, 2019 07:55:29   #
JIM BETHEA
 
ACP45...These sinister masterminds want world domination ~ Any territories with any resources that they can figure ways to capture is their ulterior motive ~ The first time I checked on the Fed Res holdings was in 2003 [and its really dicey how to you to gain access] but I was alarmed about the fact that all of their profits were tax-exempt - that the US taxpayers fund these central bankers with $9 Billion per year and what the hell did they need 46 private sized jets for??

Not to knock private jets because I have been blessed to have owned several, however, one of the Feds primary purposes was to travel to some of these 3rd world countries to meddle and ravage wh**ever they had that these bastards wanted to covertly steal from them...lol

Their schemes usually start with PROMISES..."We can bring in manufacturing and put thousands of your people to work and $$$ will flow to whomever your leader/dictator/ or just plain old nice guy that others look to for their leadership ~~ NEXT comes..."Well you will need "infrastructures"..more clean water - power sources - factory buildings etc ~~~ BUT DON'T WORRY BECAUSE WE WILL LOAN YOU THE $$$ ~~

These people are inamoured with these "shiny ideas or dreams" ~~ "Well we have plenty of money to help and WE WANT TO SEE YOUR PEOPLE SUCCEED" ~~ ???? ~~ ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS "SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE" voila ~ We can get started ~ OH BY THE WAY "we will need some collateral....You country produces lots of bananas, exotic woods, and of course we need mineral rights for any gold or silver..BUT THIS IS JUST A FORMALITY....[right?]

So the game begins...factories are built...cheap labor is working...but now with all of these "new kind of profits" coming into this country, the old greed factors raises its naughty head!! The leaders, dictators etc start thinking, well I have lots of money so I don't need these Bankster guys meddling in our business anymore ~ WRONG..because remember you signed on The Dotted Line..[they own you]...so if these dictators of these 3rd world countries start feeling their oats too much, they are threatened with the CIA coming into their country and flooding it with counterfeit money which could/would destroy their economy overnight !!

There's lots more techniques to this Story, however, these are some of the basics...Greed, Power, Control and the main prize is any Gold or Oil...These bastards stole America starting in 1871 and have been rapidly progressing until they are finally faced with someone that knows their schemes, by the name of Donald Trump...They know he knows their schemes and they surely know he has a plan to eliminate their private monetary and tax strong hold....

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Nov 7, 2019 14:07:53   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
JIM BETHEA wrote:
ACP45...These sinister masterminds want world domination ~ Any territories with any resources that they can figure ways to capture is their ulterior motive ~ The first time I checked on the Fed Res holdings was in 2003 [and its really dicey how to you to gain access] but I was alarmed about the fact that all of their profits were tax-exempt - that the US taxpayers fund these central bankers with $9 Billion per year and what the hell did they need 46 private sized jets for??

Not to knock private jets because I have been blessed to have owned several, however, one of the Feds primary purposes was to travel to some of these 3rd world countries to meddle and ravage wh**ever they had that these bastards wanted to covertly steal from them...lol

Their schemes usually start with PROMISES..."We can bring in manufacturing and put thousands of your people to work and $$$ will flow to whomever your leader/dictator/ or just plain old nice guy that others look to for their leadership ~~ NEXT comes..."Well you will need "infrastructures"..more clean water - power sources - factory buildings etc ~~~ BUT DON'T WORRY BECAUSE WE WILL LOAN YOU THE $$$ ~~

These people are inamoured with these "shiny ideas or dreams" ~~ "Well we have plenty of money to help and WE WANT TO SEE YOUR PEOPLE SUCCEED" ~~ ???? ~~ ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS "SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE" voila ~ We can get started ~ OH BY THE WAY "we will need some collateral....You country produces lots of bananas, exotic woods, and of course we need mineral rights for any gold or silver..BUT THIS IS JUST A FORMALITY....[right?]

So the game begins...factories are built...cheap labor is working...but now with all of these "new kind of profits" coming into this country, the old greed factors raises its naughty head!! The leaders, dictators etc start thinking, well I have lots of money so I don't need these Bankster guys meddling in our business anymore ~ WRONG..because remember you signed on The Dotted Line..[they own you]...so if these dictators of these 3rd world countries start feeling their oats too much, they are threatened with the CIA coming into their country and flooding it with counterfeit money which could/would destroy their economy overnight !!

There's lots more techniques to this Story, however, these are some of the basics...Greed, Power, Control and the main prize is any Gold or Oil...These bastards stole America starting in 1871 and have been rapidly progressing until they are finally faced with someone that knows their schemes, by the name of Donald Trump...They know he knows their schemes and they surely know he has a plan to eliminate their private monetary and tax strong hold....
ACP45...These sinister masterminds want world domi... (show quote)



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