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Nov 5, 2019 19:03:15   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Despite the commentary and the multiple "quotes" from testimony, what the president actually wanted, not what they were perceiving him to be wanting. seems pretty clear, does it not??



"As I said on the phone, I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign," Taylor said in a text exchange in September.

“The President has been crystal clear: no quid pro quo’s of any kind,” Sondland texted back. “The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the t***sparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised during his campaign.”


All we hear is "I assumed," "I understood to be," "It was my understanding," "he seemed to want," etc, etc. In the one comment from Sondland to Taylor, it is nailed down. The president wants no quid pro quo.


The dems can try as they might, go through all the vague comments and the only thing definitive is Sondland's statement above.

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Nov 5, 2019 19:06:37   #
Liberty Tree
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Despite the commentary and the multiple "quotes" from testimony, what the president actually wanted, not what they were perceiving him to be wanting. seems pretty clear, does it not??



"As I said on the phone, I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign," Taylor said in a text exchange in September.

“The President has been crystal clear: no quid pro quo’s of any kind,” Sondland texted back. “The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the t***sparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised during his campaign.”


All we hear is "I assumed," "I understood to be," "It was my understanding," "he seemed to want," etc, etc. In the one comment from Sondland to Taylor, it is nailed down. The president wants no quid pro quo.


The dems can try as they might, go through all the vague comments and the only thing definitive is Sondland's statement above.
Despite the commentary and the multiple "quot... (show quote)


Democrats think opinion is fact, especially if the opinion is what they want reality to be.

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Nov 5, 2019 19:11:54   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Despite the commentary and the multiple "quotes" from testimony, what the president actually wanted, not what they were perceiving him to be wanting. seems pretty clear, does it not??



"As I said on the phone, I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign," Taylor said in a text exchange in September.

“The President has been crystal clear: no quid pro quo’s of any kind,” Sondland texted back. “The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the t***sparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised during his campaign.”


All we hear is "I assumed," "I understood to be," "It was my understanding," "he seemed to want," etc, etc. In the one comment from Sondland to Taylor, it is nailed down. The president wants no quid pro quo.


The dems can try as they might, go through all the vague comments and the only thing definitive is Sondland's statement above.
Despite the commentary and the multiple "quot... (show quote)


SONDLAND all of a sudden changed his mind!!! He got pressured by the Rats and now he is speaking against Trump!!! COWARD!!!!!!

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Nov 5, 2019 19:12:02   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Democrats think opinion is fact, especially if the opinion is what they want reality to be.


I know that's right! Opinion is "evidence!" Of course, that also means ass holes are evidence as well!!

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Nov 5, 2019 19:23:56   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
proud republican wrote:
SONDLAND all of a sudden changed his mind!!! He got pressured by the Rats and now he is speaking against Trump!!! COWARD!!!!!!


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry-live-updates/2019/11/05/a27d7c48-ff4e-11e9-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html

******In the footnote, Sondland said he “presumed” the funding was being held up because of the lack of the sought-after investigations.******


Trump was clear even to Sondland, no quid pro quo. And even concerning the changed testimoney, Sondland says his perceived quid pro quo was only a presumption. I.E. - he didn't know and thus cannot say one way or the other.

As I have said, they are all vague. The only thing definitive is Sondland's report of what President Trump said; No quid pro quo!

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Nov 5, 2019 19:28:44   #
woodguru
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Despite the commentary and the multiple "quotes" from testimony, what the president actually wanted, not what they were perceiving him to be wanting. seems pretty clear, does it not??



"As I said on the phone, I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign," Taylor said in a text exchange in September.

“The President has been crystal clear: no quid pro quo’s of any kind,” Sondland texted back. “The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the t***sparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised during his campaign.”


All we hear is "I assumed," "I understood to be," "It was my understanding," "he seemed to want," etc, etc. In the one comment from Sondland to Taylor, it is nailed down. The president wants no quid pro quo.


The dems can try as they might, go through all the vague comments and the only thing definitive is Sondland's statement above.
Despite the commentary and the multiple "quot... (show quote)

Are you trying to figure out the t***h of what happened or defending trump?

Trump withheld military aid to the Ukraine, he changed the outcome of their ability to fight off their enemy, Russia. That is impeachable, add reasons that served trump's interests and not the country's interests and he needs to go.

Trump, Giuliani, Sondland, Pompeo, etc....were not working on national security interests, Giuliani was working on Trump's interests.

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Nov 5, 2019 19:29:54   #
woodguru
 
proud republican wrote:
SONDLAND all of a sudden changed his mind!!! He got pressured by the Rats and now he is speaking against Trump!!! COWARD!!!!!!

Such a simpleton conclusion

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Nov 5, 2019 19:31:30   #
woodguru
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Democrats think opinion is fact, especially if the opinion is what they want reality to be.

I guess we'll need to hear from Pompeo and others under oath huh?

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Nov 5, 2019 19:38:14   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
woodguru wrote:
Such a simpleton conclusion


He wasn't pressured, he was paid.

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Nov 5, 2019 19:42:25   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
woodguru wrote:
Are you trying to figure out the t***h of what happened or defending trump?

Trump withheld military aid to the Ukraine, he changed the outcome of their ability to fight off their enemy, Russia. That is impeachable, add reasons that served trump's interests and not the country's interests and he needs to go.

Trump, Giuliani, Sondland, Pompeo, etc....were not working on national security interests, Giuliani was working on Trump's interests.



Oh stop it!!!!! Military aid was given to Ukraine!! At ,least he gave military aid, not like Obama who gave blankets instead of lethal weapons to fight Russia!! He should off been impeached for saying he will have "more flexibility " after he gets reelected!!!

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Nov 5, 2019 19:43:51   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
Are you trying to figure out the t***h of what happened or defending trump?

Trump withheld military aid to the Ukraine, he changed the outcome of their ability to fight off their enemy, Russia. That is impeachable, add reasons that served trump's interests and not the country's interests and he needs to go.

Trump, Giuliani, Sondland, Pompeo, etc....were not working on national security interests, Giuliani was working on Trump's interests.


Changed the outcome? What world are you living in? At least he has given them military aid! Funny how they didn't even know it was held up! Don't make up crap!!

Add to that, you have no clue about Trump's interests. Not one clue. As for Giuliani, Trump had him out there since Biden made his big brag. We now know that Burisma contacted the Obama State department asking for help stopping Shokin's investigation which Biden lied about, saying there wasn't even an investigation going on! LOLOL!!

I am finding that the t***h is Trump's best defense. But ALL you can do is make up "charges" which have zero basis in fact, at all!

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Nov 5, 2019 19:44:53   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
I guess we'll need to hear from Pompeo and others under oath huh?


Schiff won't allow it.

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Nov 5, 2019 19:45:55   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
proud republican wrote:
Oh stop it!!!!! Military aid was given to Ukraine!! At ,least he gave military aid, not like Obama who gave blankets instead of lethal weapons to fight Russia!! He should off been impeached for saying he will have "more flexibility " after he gets reelected!!!


I always wondered what it was that Obama wanted to do for Putin that could have cost him the e******n!??

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Nov 5, 2019 19:57:28   #
vernon
 
woodguru wrote:
I guess we'll need to hear from Pompeo and others under oath huh?



No we need to plant a lie detector on all that lying crap in the demoRAT party.Then put the questions on the big lie about collusion and then ask about the lies s**t has told on this impeachment lie and the lies and
to stop from any of the presidents great work.They don't want the wall built because it will take millions out of the pocket of most of these DemoRat pockets.They need to be weened from the drug cartels money.

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Nov 5, 2019 20:11:17   #
vernon
 
woodguru wrote:
I guess we'll need to hear from Pompeo and others under oath huh?



You won't like the answers.now just read what a s**t has said you know full well it will not convict on lies.
I have noticed a sharpness to your responses is it because you know they are pissing in the wind.

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