Trump supporters ignore chaotic White House: Opinion by historian Stephen Lee What chaos are you talking about? Trump supporters don’t see any chaos. They don’t see anything wrong with...

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Opinion by historian Stephen Lee

What chaos are you talking about? Trump supporters don’t see any chaos. They don’t see anything wrong with the Trump administration. They watch Fox News, which turns any negative reporting about Trump into a conspiracy against Dear Leader — i.e., “f**e news” — or Fox simply doesn’t report it. It’s not like most Trump supporters are objectively absorbing diverse sources of information on a regular basis. They have long ago convinced themselves that anything that goes against the approved “conservative” narrative is simply “bias”. And, if it’s bias, you don’t believe it.

So there is nothing to ignore, because to the average Trump supporter, all of the chaos that the rest of the sentient universe perceives emanating from Trump, or surrounding Trump, or resulting from Trump’s actions, just doesn’t exist. Impeachment over extorting the president of Ukraine to open a fraudulent investigation into Joe Biden and his son, H****r? F**e news. Trump said it was about corruption, and Biden must be corrupt, so that proves, to the average Trump v**er, that the impeachment hearings are a sham.
How do they know Biden is corrupt? Innuendo, supplied by Fox News. Same as with the Clintons.

The Turks tricked Trump into withdrawing our troops from Syria, leaving the Kurds exposed to genocidal ethnic cleansing at the hands of a NATO ally? To the average Trump supporter, the issue is, “What is a Kurd?” Anyway, Trump says they are terrorists. Must be true, right?

Retired admirals and generals have finally lost it, and are openly calling for accountability for Trump’s incompetence and corruption? Deep-staters, one and all, just like Clapper, Brennan, Comey, Rosenstein, half of the FBI, everyone in the CIA, all the way up to President Obama. No chaos there because of Trump, you see. It is all because of nefarious forces who want Trump out; nefarious forces who are so powerful that they concocted a bizarre conspiracy to deny him the e******n, then concocted a bizarre investigation to remove him, then “exonerated” him in that investigation (but it’s still corrupt), then saw extortion in Ukraine when Trump was just fighting “corruption”. In Ukraine? No, with the Bidens. See above.

And now all those career diplomats openly testifying before the House of Representatives? That just confirms that this is a grand conspiracy of the deep state. Aren’t you paying attention?

All of that is crazy, you say? If these people were so intent on denying Trump the e******n, they would have simply told everyone that he was a Russian tool, you say?

Hey man, these people looked at Trump, a well known moral reprobate, financially bankrupt, and admitted sexual predator, whose own lawyer subsequently testified before Congress into years of tax evasion, money laundering, and bank and insurance fraud, and perceive not the inept head of a minor crime family in league with Russian gangsters, but a self-made billionaire (really, they believe that) who built a massive, international business empire (really, they believe that too). A paragon of virtue, the defender of the forgotten man in fly-over country, the incorruptible savior of Red State America — delivered to them by God Almighty himself. Ask any evangelical. They’ll tell you that, with a straight face.

There is no chaos in Trump-world. Well, not yet. No matter what they see on Fox News, and no matter what they tell themselves on their Facebook posts, Trump really is a corrupt moral reprobate, financially bankrupt and admitted sexual predator, who is currently under investigation in at least four US Attorneys’ offices, the State of New York’s Attorney General’s office, and the Manhattan District Attorney’s office. He will be impeached by the House of Representatives before the end of the year, and when the evidence is put before the Senate the overwhelming majority of Americans will be screaming for justice so loudly that Mitch McConnell will have no choice but to hold the trial, and most of the GOP will v**e to convict him.

Then Trump-world will no longer ignore the chaos in the White House. They will just attribute it to the deep state conspiracy. Which, by then, will obviously include Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, and Ted Cruz. And at least seventeen other GOP Senators.

You see how deep the deep state goes?

Fiat justitia ruat caelum.

Liberty Tree

slatten49 wrote:

Opinion by historian Stephen Lee

What chaos are you talking about? Trump supporters don’t see any chaos. They don’t see anything wrong with the Trump administration. They watch Fox News, which turns any negative reporting about Trump into a conspiracy against Dear Leader — i.e., “f**e news” — or Fox simply doesn’t report it. It’s not like most Trump supporters are objectively absorbing diverse sources of information on a regular basis. They have long ago convinced themselves that anything that goes against the approved “conservative” narrative is simply “bias”. And, if it’s bias, you don’t believe it.

So there is nothing to ignore, because to the average Trump supporter, all of the chaos that the rest of the sentient universe perceives emanating from Trump, or surrounding Trump, or resulting from Trump’s actions, just doesn’t exist. Impeachment over extorting the president of Ukraine to open a fraudulent investigation into Joe Biden and his son, H****r? F**e news. Trump said it was about corruption, and Biden must be corrupt, so that proves, to the average Trump v**er, that the impeachment hearings are a sham.
How do they know Biden is corrupt? Innuendo, supplied by Fox News. Same as with the Clintons.

The Turks tricked Trump into withdrawing our troops from Syria, leaving the Kurds exposed to genocidal ethnic cleansing at the hands of a NATO ally? To the average Trump supporter, the issue is, “What is a Kurd?” Anyway, Trump says they are terrorists. Must be true, right?

Retired admirals and generals have finally lost it, and are openly calling for accountability for Trump’s incompetence and corruption? Deep-staters, one and all, just like Clapper, Brennan, Comey, Rosenstein, half of the FBI, everyone in the CIA, all the way up to President Obama. No chaos there because of Trump, you see. It is all because of nefarious forces who want Trump out; nefarious forces who are so powerful that they concocted a bizarre conspiracy to deny him the e******n, then concocted a bizarre investigation to remove him, then “exonerated” him in that investigation (but it’s still corrupt), then saw extortion in Ukraine when Trump was just fighting “corruption”. In Ukraine? No, with the Bidens. See above.

And now all those career diplomats openly testifying before the House of Representatives? That just confirms that this is a grand conspiracy of the deep state. Aren’t you paying attention?

All of that is crazy, you say? If these people were so intent on denying Trump the e******n, they would have simply told everyone that he was a Russian tool, you say?

Hey man, these people looked at Trump, a well known moral reprobate, financially bankrupt, and admitted sexual predator, whose own lawyer subsequently testified before Congress into years of tax evasion, money laundering, and bank and insurance fraud, and perceive not the inept head of a minor crime family in league with Russian gangsters, but a self-made billionaire (really, they believe that) who built a massive, international business empire (really, they believe that too). A paragon of virtue, the defender of the forgotten man in fly-over country, the incorruptible savior of Red State America — delivered to them by God Almighty himself. Ask any evangelical. They’ll tell you that, with a straight face.

There is no chaos in Trump-world. Well, not yet. No matter what they see on Fox News, and no matter what they tell themselves on their Facebook posts, Trump really is a corrupt moral reprobate, financially bankrupt and admitted sexual predator, who is currently under investigation in at least four US Attorneys’ offices, the State of New York’s Attorney General’s office, and the Manhattan District Attorney’s office. He will be impeached by the House of Representatives before the end of the year, and when the evidence is put before the Senate the overwhelming majority of Americans will be screaming for justice so loudly that Mitch McConnell will have no choice but to hold the trial, and most of the GOP will v**e to convict him.
Then Trump-world will no longer ignore the chaos in the White House. They will just attribute it to the deep state conspiracy. Which, by then, will obviously include Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, and Ted Cruz. And at least seventeen other GOP Senators.

You see how deep the deep state goes?

Fiat justitia ruat caelum.

Opinion by historian Stephen Lee br br What chaos... (show quote)

Leftwing opinion is not fact

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Liberty Tree wrote:

Leftwing opinion is not fact

L-T, imagine my shock upon noticing you were the first to respond.

Pariahjf

Liberty Tree wrote:

Leftwing opinion is not fact

Here's a fact------read Breitbart. If the story is true, there won't be any comments on it.

Liberty Tree

slatten49 wrote:

L-T, imagine my shock upon noticing you were the first to respond.

Glad I did not disappoint you.

Lonewolf

slatten49 wrote:

Opinion by historian Stephen Lee

What chaos are you talking about? Trump supporters don’t see any chaos. They don’t see anything wrong with the Trump administration. They watch Fox News, which turns any negative reporting about Trump into a conspiracy against Dear Leader — i.e., “f**e news” — or Fox simply doesn’t report it. It’s not like most Trump supporters are objectively absorbing diverse sources of information on a regular basis. They have long ago convinced themselves that anything that goes against the approved “conservative” narrative is simply “bias”. And, if it’s bias, you don’t believe it.

So there is nothing to ignore, because to the average Trump supporter, all of the chaos that the rest of the sentient universe perceives emanating from Trump, or surrounding Trump, or resulting from Trump’s actions, just doesn’t exist. Impeachment over extorting the president of Ukraine to open a fraudulent investigation into Joe Biden and his son, H****r? F**e news. Trump said it was about corruption, and Biden must be corrupt, so that proves, to the average Trump v**er, that the impeachment hearings are a sham.
How do they know Biden is corrupt? Innuendo, supplied by Fox News. Same as with the Clintons.

The Turks tricked Trump into withdrawing our troops from Syria, leaving the Kurds exposed to genocidal ethnic cleansing at the hands of a NATO ally? To the average Trump supporter, the issue is, “What is a Kurd?” Anyway, Trump says they are terrorists. Must be true, right?

Retired admirals and generals have finally lost it, and are openly calling for accountability for Trump’s incompetence and corruption? Deep-staters, one and all, just like Clapper, Brennan, Comey, Rosenstein, half of the FBI, everyone in the CIA, all the way up to President Obama. No chaos there because of Trump, you see. It is all because of nefarious forces who want Trump out; nefarious forces who are so powerful that they concocted a bizarre conspiracy to deny him the e******n, then concocted a bizarre investigation to remove him, then “exonerated” him in that investigation (but it’s still corrupt), then saw extortion in Ukraine when Trump was just fighting “corruption”. In Ukraine? No, with the Bidens. See above.

And now all those career diplomats openly testifying before the House of Representatives? That just confirms that this is a grand conspiracy of the deep state. Aren’t you paying attention?

All of that is crazy, you say? If these people were so intent on denying Trump the e******n, they would have simply told everyone that he was a Russian tool, you say?

Hey man, these people looked at Trump, a well known moral reprobate, financially bankrupt, and admitted sexual predator, whose own lawyer subsequently testified before Congress into years of tax evasion, money laundering, and bank and insurance fraud, and perceive not the inept head of a minor crime family in league with Russian gangsters, but a self-made billionaire (really, they believe that) who built a massive, international business empire (really, they believe that too). A paragon of virtue, the defender of the forgotten man in fly-over country, the incorruptible savior of Red State America — delivered to them by God Almighty himself. Ask any evangelical. They’ll tell you that, with a straight face.

There is no chaos in Trump-world. Well, not yet. No matter what they see on Fox News, and no matter what they tell themselves on their Facebook posts, Trump really is a corrupt moral reprobate, financially bankrupt and admitted sexual predator, who is currently under investigation in at least four US Attorneys’ offices, the State of New York’s Attorney General’s office, and the Manhattan District Attorney’s office. He will be impeached by the House of Representatives before the end of the year, and when the evidence is put before the Senate the overwhelming majority of Americans will be screaming for justice so loudly that Mitch McConnell will have no choice but to hold the trial, and most of the GOP will v**e to convict him.

Then Trump-world will no longer ignore the chaos in the White House. They will just attribute it to the deep state conspiracy. Which, by then, will obviously include Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, and Ted Cruz. And at least seventeen other GOP Senators.

You see how deep the deep state goes?

Fiat justitia ruat caelum.

Opinion by historian Stephen Lee br br What chaos... (show quote)

Great post

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

slatten49 wrote:

Opinion by historian Stephen Lee br br What chaos... (show quote)

Right... Because obviously Trump supporters only watch FOX... That could be he only reason we support him... FOX... That's probably why the OPP (a mostly conservative, pro-trump crowd) is swamped with articles from FOX News day after day...

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The president of the Ukraine doesn't believe he was extorted... He must watch FOX News as well...

What makes the investigation fraudulent?
I'm sure Biden has abused his position.. He's been in politics long enough for it... Has nothing to do with party...

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The Turks tricked Trump into withdrawing our troops from Syria, leaving the Kurds exposed to genocidal ethnic cleansing at the hands of a NATO ally? To the average Trump supporter, the issue is, “What is a Kurd?” Anyway, Trump-says they are terrorists. Must be true, right?

Turks still haven't been genocide...
I keep trying to tell people that Muslims really suck at genocide...
Think there's actually a peace treaty at the moment....
I have always known what the Kurds are...
Allies of convenience... Several times over...

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Glad everyone agrees that he was exonerated..
Took most of us suspect the impeachment because we have been hearing the word since before he was president... Kind of a "wolf! wolf! wolf!" situation...

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And now all those career diplomats openly testifying before the House of Representatives? That just confirms that this is a grand conspiracy of the deep state. Aren’t you paying attention?

Nothing more honest than a career diplomat...
No conspiracy... Just folk who don't care for Trump or his methods....

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All of that is crazy, you say? If these people were so intent on denying Trump the e******n, they would have simply told everyone that he was a Russian tool, you say?

Yep....

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Reprobate? Yep... That fits..
Financially bankrupt? Not hardly..
Sexual predator? I missed when he admitted that.... Source maybe? If true I'm sure he would be imprisoned...
Money laundering and tax evasion? Isn't that the lawyer looking for a deal?
Minor crime family? Like the Kennedy's?

He was born a billionaire? Really?
International business empire? Only if one counts his business ventures in numerous nations around the world..

Think someone might be generalizing Evangelicals here... But as I'm not one I'll let them speak for themselves...

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Not that I think he'll be impeached.... But didn't Nixon win in the greatest landslide in American history during impeachment proceedings?
If he is impeached I'm sure the author is right about millions of Americans screaming for justice..

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Then Trump-world will no longer ignore the chaos in the White House. They will just attribute it to the deep state conspiracy. Which, by then, will obviously include Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, and Ted Cruz. And at least seventeen other GOP Senators.

Weren't there a bunch of Republicans in the House that were supposed to v**e for impeachment as well?

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You see how deep the deep state goes?

No... I'm confused as to much of this article....

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Fiat justitia ruat caelum.

Finally... I learn something...

Cheers Slat...

I used to do this to Badbob's threads... I miss that...

Thanks for the exercise

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Finally... I learn something...

Cheers Slat...

I used to do this to Badbob's threads... I miss that...

Thanks for the exercise!

My pleasure, CD.

I will point out that Nixon won his landslide victory in 1972, and did not resign from the office of the U.S. Presidency 'til August 9th, 1974. However, the impeachment process against President Nixon began in the U.S. House of Representatives on October 30, 1973, following the 'Saturday Night Massacre' episode of the Watergate scandal.

hdjimv Loc: South Dakota

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Finally... I learn something...

Cheers Slat...

I used to do this to Badbob's threads... I miss that...

Thanks for the exercise

Love reading your posts CD!

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

hdjimv wrote:

Love reading your posts CD!

As do I, Hdjimv. CD's postings are often informative and/or entertaining

hdjimv Loc: South Dakota

slatten49 wrote:

As do I, Hdjimv. CD's are often informative and/or entertaining

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

slatten49 wrote:

My pleasure, CD. img src="https://static.onepolit... (show quote)

Really

I thought they were Impeaching him during the e******n

My bad....

Were they investigating him during the e******n?

Wonder where I got this idea...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

slatten49 wrote:

As do I, Hdjimv. CD's postings are often informative and/or entertaining

It's the Canuckistanian way

kemmer

Pariahjf wrote:

Here's a fact------read Breitbart. If the story is true, there won't be any comments on it.

Now that even Fox is beginning to defect from the Trump machine, the "voice of Trump" has been relegated to Breitbart and InfoWars. Pathetic.

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

slatten49 wrote:

Opinion by historian Stephen Lee

What chaos are you talking about? Trump supporters don’t see any chaos. They don’t see anything wrong with the Trump administration. They watch Fox News, which turns any negative reporting about Trump into a conspiracy against Dear Leader — i.e., “f**e news” — or Fox simply doesn’t report it. It’s not like most Trump supporters are objectively absorbing diverse sources of information on a regular basis. They have long ago convinced themselves that anything that goes against the approved “conservative” narrative is simply “bias”. And, if it’s bias, you don’t believe it.

So there is nothing to ignore, because to the average Trump supporter, all of the chaos that the rest of the sentient universe perceives emanating from Trump, or surrounding Trump, or resulting from Trump’s actions, just doesn’t exist. Impeachment over extorting the president of Ukraine to open a fraudulent investigation into Joe Biden and his son, H****r? F**e news. Trump said it was about corruption, and Biden must be corrupt, so that proves, to the average Trump v**er, that the impeachment hearings are a sham.
How do they know Biden is corrupt? Innuendo, supplied by Fox News. Same as with the Clintons.

The Turks tricked Trump into withdrawing our troops from Syria, leaving the Kurds exposed to genocidal ethnic cleansing at the hands of a NATO ally? To the average Trump supporter, the issue is, “What is a Kurd?” Anyway, Trump says they are terrorists. Must be true, right?

Retired admirals and generals have finally lost it, and are openly calling for accountability for Trump’s incompetence and corruption? Deep-staters, one and all, just like Clapper, Brennan, Comey, Rosenstein, half of the FBI, everyone in the CIA, all the way up to President Obama. No chaos there because of Trump, you see. It is all because of nefarious forces who want Trump out; nefarious forces who are so powerful that they concocted a bizarre conspiracy to deny him the e******n, then concocted a bizarre investigation to remove him, then “exonerated” him in that investigation (but it’s still corrupt), then saw extortion in Ukraine when Trump was just fighting “corruption”. In Ukraine? No, with the Bidens. See above.

And now all those career diplomats openly testifying before the House of Representatives? That just confirms that this is a grand conspiracy of the deep state. Aren’t you paying attention?

All of that is crazy, you say? If these people were so intent on denying Trump the e******n, they would have simply told everyone that he was a Russian tool, you say?

Hey man, these people looked at Trump, a well known moral reprobate, financially bankrupt, and admitted sexual predator, whose own lawyer subsequently testified before Congress into years of tax evasion, money laundering, and bank and insurance fraud, and perceive not the inept head of a minor crime family in league with Russian gangsters, but a self-made billionaire (really, they believe that) who built a massive, international business empire (really, they believe that too). A paragon of virtue, the defender of the forgotten man in fly-over country, the incorruptible savior of Red State America — delivered to them by God Almighty himself. Ask any evangelical. They’ll tell you that, with a straight face.

There is no chaos in Trump-world. Well, not yet. No matter what they see on Fox News, and no matter what they tell themselves on their Facebook posts, Trump really is a corrupt moral reprobate, financially bankrupt and admitted sexual predator, who is currently under investigation in at least four US Attorneys’ offices, the State of New York’s Attorney General’s office, and the Manhattan District Attorney’s office. He will be impeached by the House of Representatives before the end of the year, and when the evidence is put before the Senate the overwhelming majority of Americans will be screaming for justice so loudly that Mitch McConnell will have no choice but to hold the trial, and most of the GOP will v**e to convict him.

Then Trump-world will no longer ignore the chaos in the White House. They will just attribute it to the deep state conspiracy. Which, by then, will obviously include Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, and Ted Cruz. And at least seventeen other GOP Senators.

You see how deep the deep state goes?

Fiat justitia ruat caelum.

Opinion by historian Stephen Lee br br What chaos... (show quote)

Spoken, just like a true progressive.