rumitoid

This was a show of Trump-like disdain for the Constitution, all his little lock-step stooges looking to obviate Constitutional Law. The House no longer has to v**e to issue subpoenas as it had to do with Nixon and Clinton; that rule was changed for the majority. How was it changed? Republicans after Clinton. And they know this. This action is not exactly s******n by these 42 Republicans, but close. And almost obstruction of justice, an attempt to undermine a legal process guaranteed by the supreme Law of the Land. The GOP, on so many levels, have betrayed American ideals, principles, and laws but more importantly support for our institutions. They are behaving disgracefully, like slavish puppets or wanton opportunists.

teabag09

Rumi, please correct me if I'm wrong but aren't subpoenas issued for courts of law not inquiries? The so called subpoenas are nothing more than letters requesting participation. They have no standing what so ever. Again I could be wrong but if Nasty Nan would call for a v**e of the WHOLE House for impeachment then subpoenas could be issued by both sides and would have teeth. Thanks for any information you can give me. Mike

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Not a disdain for the Constitution rather a disdain for the Progressive House of Representatives. Rule of law? Not hardly! What progressives do is twisting the law so that it's practically unrecognizable.

Mike Easterday

I will definitely v**e for President Trump!!! Other republicrats I will decide on e******n day .

rumitoid

The short answer: the WH is obligated to comply. Please read below:

The power of Congress to investigate and obtain information is very broad. While there is no express provision in the Constitution that addresses the investigative power, the Supreme Court has firmly established that such power is essential to the legislative function as to be implied from the general vesting of legislative powers in Congress.

How a particular committee decides to issue a subpoena is specific to each committee. Most committees of the House and Senate have included in their rules one or more provisions on committees’ and subcommittees’ power to authorize subpoenas by majority v**e. Most House committee rules delegate to the committee chair the power to authorize subpoenas, and many of these rules require the chair to consult or notify the committee’s ranking minority member. Once authorized, a subpoena must be signed and delivered to the person named in it. Delivery of the subpoena to the person named in it means the person has been officially “served.”

The courts have long reaffirmed Congress’s constitutional authority to issue and enforce subpoenas. As the Congressional Research Service explained in 2017:

Congress has three formal methods by which it can combat non-compliance with a duly issued subpoena. Each of these methods invokes the authority of a separate branch of government. First, the long dormant inherent contempt power permits Congress to rely on its own constitutional authority to detain and imprison a contemnor until the individual complies with congressional demands. Second, the criminal contempt statute permits Congress to certify a contempt citation to the executive branch for the criminal prosecution of the contemnor. Finally, Congress may rely on the judicial branch to enforce a congressional subpoena. Under this procedure, Congress may seek a civil judgment from a federal court declaring that the individual in question is legally obligated to comply with the congressional subpoena.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/congressional-subpoena-power-and-executive-privilege-coming-showdown-between-branches

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

The US Senate has the responsibility to monitor House proceedings on an impeachment process.

Sens Graham and McConnell have just co-sponsored a resolution that condemns the "illegitimate" House impeachment probe. So far, 44 Republican senators have signed on. It is quite clear that these senators (along with a hell of a lot of American citizens) understand the ramifications (long term effects) of this unforgivable subterfuge. If these democrat maniacs are not stopped, a precedent will be set that will have consequences for every future president. It will immeasurably damage, if not destroy, the office of the President which in turn will finish our Constitution forever.

On another note: US Attorney John Durham has shifted his administrative review of the Russia investigation closely overseen by Attorney General William P. Barr to a full criminal investigation. This move gives him prosecutorial authority and the power to subpoena witnesses and documents, to impanel a grand jury and to file criminal charges. Durham's investigation is moving fast.

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rumitoid

What you said is just plain wrong. Where did you get that BS? The House of Representatives...shall have the sole Power of Impeachment. Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5 of the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Wh**ever Far Right Wing you read that nonsense, go now to the Constitution.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Yeah, no s**t. I know the constitution like every square inch of my glorious naked body.

I've studied the Constitution from the Preamble to the last amendment, I have studied the Federalist Papers and have read as much as I can find on the impeachment procedure. I know how the impeachment process works. The charade those maniacal democrats in the HOR are pulling is a shameful and unforgivable assault on our constitution.

Hillsdale College: Constitution 101
Take this course a couple times, then get back to us.

rumitoid

Please offer a counter argument to the House having sole responsibility for impeachment by Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

I can't believe that you would point to Article 1, Section 2, PARAGRAPH 5 and stop.

The HOR draws up articles of impeachment and submits them to the senate.

Article 1, Section 3, Paragraph 6 - The senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments . . .

The House impeachment process generally proceeds in three phases: (1) initiation of the impeachment process; (2) Judiciary Committee investigation (Inquiry), hearings, and markup of articles of impeachment; and (3) full House consideration of the articles of impeachment.

If the committee determines that impeachment is warranted, it will markup articles of impeachment using the same procedures followed for the markup of other legislation. If the Judiciary Committee reports a resolution impeaching a federal officer, that resolution qualifies for privileged consideration on the House floor.

If the House approves the impeachment resolution, it will appoint managers to present and argue its case in front of the Senate.

Schiff and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence is conducting itself outside the bounds of the constitution, the law, and the established procedures for the impeachment process. (The impeachment inquiry was never supposed to be held in secret.)

As long as Schiff continues with his Machiavellian political game and runs his inquiry in secret hearings and leaks selected, highly prejudicial information to the media, he is going to play hell bringing legitimate grounds for articles of impeachment to the full House floor. Wh**ever that sleazy SOB comes up with, he'd better have sufficient proof of impeachable offenses, or he's going to eat s**t when the full house goes for the v**e. Schiff's subterfuge will never make it to the senate.

All past impeachment proceedings were conducted in full view of the American people. The United States of America is OUR country, it does not belong to the House of Representatives, or to the government in general, and it certainly is not the property of an insane pencil neck from California.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

The only s******n I see is the democraps. Schitt being a prosecutor when he's a witness, you can't be both. Doing things behind closed doors and in secrecy, when the American public wants t***sparency. This is their only shot and they are failing at it.

elledee

Blade your all over it....you k**led it .....take a bow!!!!

rumitoid

Sorry but hohohohoho. The House is Constitutionally authorized to investigate and act on impeachment against a sitting president. There is no subterfuge. Closed hearings are a rule created by the GOP. (Two years of such going after Hillary for B******i.) This is all a wah wah distraction from the mounting evidence of Trump's gross malfeasance. And ridiculously ignoring the Constitution. It is a so far-fetched accusation against the House procedures, Blade, as to be laughable, if it weren't so d********g and wrong.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

When was the last time you studied the Constitution of the United States? Have you ever studied the Federalist Papers?

rumitoid

Never and No. A cursory look at both. I have relied on what seems plainly simple explanations of the legal House actions by Constitutional scholars. I am not even close to an expert. I have read all your arguments countered in my research. Unfortunately, I have no legal expertise or background and depend on those who appear to know the law.