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Oct 20, 2019 19:54:26   #
tNotMyPrez Loc: So. CA, USA
 
Frank Schaeffer, giving his perspective on why the Evangelical Right follow trump and some thoughts on what to do about it...

Watch "Let Me Explain Why Trump’s Core White Supporters Won't EVER Turn Against Him" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/uTARAarSZlQ

Frank Schaeffer - - Wikipedia

He is the son of the late theologian and author Francis Schaeffer. He became a Hollywood film director & author, writing several internationally acclaimed novels depicting life in a strict evangelical household...

While Schaeffer was a conservative, fundamentalist Christian in his youth, he has changed his views, becoming a liberal Democrat and a self-described Christian atheist.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Schaeffer



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Oct 20, 2019 20:13:19   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Frank Schaeffer, giving his perspective on why the Evangelical Right follow trump and some thoughts on what to do about it...

Watch "Let Me Explain Why Trump’s Core White Supporters Won't EVER Turn Against Him" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/uTARAarSZlQ

Frank Schaeffer - - Wikipedia

He is the son of the late theologian and author Francis Schaeffer. He became a Hollywood film director & author, writing several internationally acclaimed novels depicting life in a strict evangelical household...

While Schaeffer was a conservative, fundamentalist Christian in his youth, he has changed his views, becoming a liberal Democrat and a self-described Christian atheist.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Schaeffer
b Frank Schaeffer, giving his perspective on why ... (show quote)

I posted a column by Mr. Schaeffer some time ago.....

https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-87071-1.html

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Oct 20, 2019 20:19:49   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Frank Schaeffer, giving his perspective on why the Evangelical Right follow trump and some thoughts on what to do about it...

Watch "Let Me Explain Why Trump’s Core White Supporters Won't EVER Turn Against Him" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/uTARAarSZlQ

Frank Schaeffer - - Wikipedia

He is the son of the late theologian and author Francis Schaeffer. He became a Hollywood film director & author, writing several internationally acclaimed novels depicting life in a strict evangelical household...

While Schaeffer was a conservative, fundamentalist Christian in his youth, he has changed his views, becoming a liberal Democrat and a self-described Christian atheist.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Schaeffer
b Frank Schaeffer, giving his perspective on why ... (show quote)



Not so very long ago Frank was a very conservative Christian and citizen. His book, "Standing Alone" is epic in describing what's wrong with religion today and what's wrong with our government. For him to have made such a drastic turn around, being pro now about everything he was previous against, must have satanic influence. What a disappointment.

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Oct 20, 2019 20:36:24   #
rumitoid
 
padremike wrote:
Not so very long ago Frank was a very conservative Christian and citizen. His book, "Standing Alone" is epic in describing what's wrong with religion today and what's wrong with our government. For him to have made such a drastic turn around, being pro now about everything he was previous against, must have satanic influence. What a disappointment.


Or grace. Tell me how you determine the source. He disagrees with you? Your party?

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Oct 20, 2019 20:47:08   #
eden
 
slatten49 wrote:
I posted a column by Mr. Schaeffer some time ago.....

https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-87071-1.html


And if I missed that post then let me say belatedly thank you.

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Oct 20, 2019 20:55:51   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
rumitoid wrote:
Or grace. Tell me how you determine the source. He disagrees with you? Your party?


Another thing you don't understand........ "Grace.". Grace cannot advocate sin.

Schaffer now agrees with you, your party! If you read his book "Dancing Alone" even you would agree the change is too drastic.

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Oct 20, 2019 22:04:40   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
eden wrote:
And if I missed that post then let me say belatedly thank you.

You're quite welcome, Lady Eden.

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Oct 20, 2019 22:22:22   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Or grace. Tell me how you determine the source. He disagrees with you? Your party?


It isn’t grace that makes a non believer. Look up Christian atheism. Its not Christian.

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Oct 20, 2019 22:54:46   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Rose42 wrote:
It isn’t grace that makes a non believer. Look up Christian atheism. Its not Christian.

It is unique to call oneself a Christian Atheist. But, apparently..."In broad strokes, Christian Atheism is a spiritual approach using the teachings and example of Jesus while denying the existence of a literal God. As a result, Christian Atheism is entirely focused on earthly concerns and earthly justifications. Religion is [considered] a purely human endeavor, and God is simply a projection of a person’s mind."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism

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Oct 21, 2019 00:24:04   #
tNotMyPrez Loc: So. CA, USA
 
slatten49 wrote:
It is unique to call oneself a Christian Atheist. But, apparently..."In broad strokes, Christian Atheism is a spiritual approach using the teachings and example of Jesus while denying the existence of a literal God. As a result, Christian Atheism is entirely focused on earthly concerns and earthly justifications. Religion is [considered] a purely human endeavor, and God is simply a projection of a person’s mind."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism

"Christian atheism is a form of cultural Christianity and ethics system drawing its beliefs and practices from Jesus' life and teachings as recorded in the New Testament Gospels and other sources, whilst rejecting supernatural claims of Christianity."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism

As usual, there are always many factions, so the terminology is not defined the same for everyone - - one should assign the meaning that the person assigns to himself:



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Oct 21, 2019 07:03:45   #
Rose42
 
slatten49 wrote:
It is unique to call oneself a Christian Atheist. But, apparently..."In broad strokes, Christian Atheism is a spiritual approach using the teachings and example of Jesus while denying the existence of a literal God. As a result, Christian Atheism is entirely focused on earthly concerns and earthly justifications. Religion is [considered] a purely human endeavor, and God is simply a projection of a person’s mind."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism


Christian atheism is an oxymoron.

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Oct 21, 2019 07:07:03   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Rose42 wrote:
Christian atheism is an oxymoron.

Yes, it seems so.

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Oct 21, 2019 07:15:48   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Christian atheism is an oxymoron.


But a clever one...

Oxymoron are fun...

Liberal thinker...

Obedient wife...

Canadian politics...


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Oct 21, 2019 08:37:37   #
billy a Loc: South Florida
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Frank Schaeffer, giving his perspective on why the Evangelical Right follow trump and some thoughts on what to do about it...

Watch "Let Me Explain Why Trump’s Core White Supporters Won't EVER Turn Against Him" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/uTARAarSZlQ

Frank Schaeffer - - Wikipedia

He is the son of the late theologian and author Francis Schaeffer. He became a Hollywood film director & author, writing several internationally acclaimed novels depicting life in a strict evangelical household...

While Schaeffer was a conservative, fundamentalist Christian in his youth, he has changed his views, becoming a liberal Democrat and a self-described Christian atheist.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Schaeffer
b Frank Schaeffer, giving his perspective on why ... (show quote)


Using Schaeffer's own analysis of "group delusion" as the cause of ( what he considers )
The extreme white "core" of Trump followers,one can't help but apply that same "logic" to the current climate in the democratic party...the only difference being they have no leader. This makes them that much more delusional.

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Oct 21, 2019 08:48:34   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
But a clever one...

Oxymoron are fun...

Liberal thinker...

Obedient wife...

Canadian politics...



Lol

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