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Oct 20, 2019 22:20:28   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
slatten49 wrote:
I saw him as the best appointment Trump had made.


Yep

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Oct 21, 2019 08:59:02   #
Rose42
 
This may not be a good time to have a career military man as president. It was different during Eisenhower’s era and Mattis is no Eisenhower though I do think highly of him.

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Oct 21, 2019 10:12:07   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Rose42 wrote:
This may not be a good time to have a career military man as president. It was different during Eisenhower’s era and Mattis is no Eisenhower though I do think highly of him.

https://www.leanblog.org/2019/09/general-jim-mattis-on-leadership-mistakes-and-defining-problems/

Also, apart from the above link....

4 Leadership Principles From General 'Mad Dog' Mattis That Aren't So Mad After All

Jeff Boss...I write about leadership, adaptability and high performing teams.

You don’t get a nickname like “mad dog” from playing with bunny rabbits. Nor do you get appointed as Secretary of Defense if you’re truly “mad.”

The dichotomy between the “mad” moniker and the calculated, deliberate decision making process required to make complex decisions at the General level speaks volumes about the leadership principles we can expect from General Mattis. Here are four:

1) Expect failure, but don’t accept it.

During his Senate confirmation hearing, General Mattis made the following remark regarding his nickname “Mad dog”: “Senator, I assure you that nickname was given to me by the press and some [of] you have experienced similar occasions with the press where perhaps they didn't get it quite right."

The takeaway here is this: people, teams and organizations make mistakes. Hey, it happens. Learn from it and move on. Failure only exists when you choose to stop learning; when you tolerate shortcomings, errors or mishaps and take no corrective action--that's when you fail, when you accept the status quo and do nothing to question or improve it.

2) Look rearward to move forward.

Generals are, by default, students of history. They must be. To make the strategic decisions that govern military assets across the sea, air and land--not to mention impact a nation--requires a keen understanding of what has worked in the past, what hasn’t and the context that explains why not.

The military regularly conducts after action reviews which are post-event assessments designed to learn from errors, successes and assumptions. Now, there’s good news and bad news if learning has yet to be institutionalized in your company. The good news is that you’re not dead yet (but you are dying a slow death). The bad news is you’re already obsolete because now everybody has to play catch up to learn what worked, what didn't and why.

True learning organizations due just that—they ingrain learning into their DNA by asking difficult questions that challenge previously held assumptions. They deliberately question whether they're doing things right and if they're doing the right things. If the answer isn’t a resounding “yes” to either of these (one doesn’t suffice), then the next question is, “How might we?”

3) Intimidate and inspire.

Force is, by nature, intimidating. It must be, since the application of force serves two fundamental purposes: a) To achieve what influence thus far has not and b) To dissuade similar behavior from occurring in the future.

However, intimidation alone isn’t enough because once that force disappears then so too does the intimidation factor--or ability to influence--which is why intimidation must be accompanied by inspiration. The push/pull effect here is important because too much of any one thing is just that—too much.
“America has two fundamental powers,” according to Mattis. “One is the power of intimidation. I was part of it and America will defend herself and our idea, this experiment that we call America. And that's all it is, is an experiment in democracy. But the other power I think that perhaps we have used less in recent years, last 20 years maybe, is the power of inspiration. And I think that the power of inspiration of America at times has got to be employed just as strongly."

4) Live your ethos.

War is not for the faint of heart, nor is it for the mentally weak, spiritually broken, physically unfit, or emotionally unstable. And you know what? Albeit on a different scale, neither is business. To move ahead--in anything--requires a strong belief in oneself, each other and the purpose you are serving. The criteria for success are industry agnostic.

What I’ve personally found after leaving the military is that different industries may define success differently but the means by which they go about succeeding are always the same. They all require leadership, teamwork, communication and decision making at all levels to move the ball forward. And that’s what we can and should expect not only from General Mattis, but also from each other.

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Oct 21, 2019 10:22:05   #
Rose42
 
slatten49 wrote:
https://www.leanblog.org/2019/09/general-jim-mattis-on-leadership-mistakes-and-defining-problems/


The best leaders I've ever known didn't mollycoddle. They dressed down when needed in order to build up. That is a sk**l very few have anymore. The modern 'coach and encourage' style does not build as much strength. Not from what I've seen.

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Oct 21, 2019 10:31:53   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Rose42 wrote:
The best leaders I've ever known didn't mollycoddle. They dressed down when needed in order to build up. That is a sk**l very few have anymore. The modern 'coach and encourage' style does not build as much strength. Not from what I've seen.

It would be a surprise if 'MadDog' has/had ever been described as a 'mollycoddle(r).'

mollycoddle [ˈmälēˌkädl]

VERB; to treat (someone) in an indulgent or overprotective way. synonyms: pamper · cosset · coddle · spoil - indulge · overindulge · pet · baby · [more]
NOUN; an effeminate or ineffectual man or boy. synonyms: coward · weakling · namby-pamby · mouse · drip · sissy · weed · snowflake · [more]

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Oct 21, 2019 11:55:03   #
Rose42
 
slatten49 wrote:
It would be a surprise if 'MadDog' has/had ever been described as a 'mollycoddle(r).'

mollycoddle [ˈmälēˌkädl]

VERB; to treat (someone) in an indulgent or overprotective way. synonyms: pamper · cosset · coddle · spoil - indulge · overindulge · pet · baby · [more]
NOUN; an effeminate or ineffectual man or boy. synonyms: coward · weakling · namby-pamby · mouse · drip · sissy · weed · snowflake · [more]
It would be a surprise if 'MadDog' has/had ever be... (show quote)


I know what it means and it describes some of the way the regular forces are treated. And I wasn't talking about Mattis.

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Oct 21, 2019 12:10:24   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Rose42 wrote:
I know what it means and it describes some of the way the regular forces are treated. And I wasn't talking about Mattis.

Rose, I did not doubt you knew the meaning of the word, but I wasn't sure if you were talking of Mattis or not. I wanted to be clear with my thoughts on the man.

Why do Marines revere 'MadDog' Mattis?

"His walk, and his talk. He walks how he talks. He is well known as a single mission, non-compromising man of very high standards. He is NOT afraid to say what is real, for a fighting man, trained in combat, to feel, do, believe, and want to see done. He reveres his troops, and he expects them to perform even higher than he sets for their standards. He is dev**ed. He is not afraid to be a boss, and yet he does not bask in the glory or comforts that come with being the boss. He likes being a Marine, and his JOB is being a General. But he relates to the troops like a troop leader, like a troop relates to other troops. He tells the t***h. His mission is to finish, and do so with the least amount of damage to HIS (our) people. He does not have much to say about what will happen to the other side, or a statement about what damages they will have - other than it will be wh**ever it takes to win, and get the enemy to submit, quit, and surrender.
That kind of leadership, and p***e and talk and true commitment to your people, makes your people love you. Giving them the support and the backing to let them DO THEIR JOB, is something many leaders of warriors have not done. Asking a Marine, or other soldier to hold back, don’t attack, don’t take out the enemy when you see them is a corruption of their training and their inherent goal that carriers their reward for good work. They like him, since he’s unleashed them, to a large extent to do their jobs, and when finished, stop, and return, and stay prepared to do it again, somewhere else. Its style, management and leadership...that’s why they love him."

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Oct 21, 2019 12:25:56   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
slatten49 wrote:
Rose, I did not doubt you knew the meaning of the word, but I wasn't sure if you were talking of Mattis or not. I wanted to be clear with my thoughts on the man.

Why do Marines revere 'MadDog' Mattis?

"His walk, and his talk. He walks how he talks. He is well known as a single mission, non-compromising man of very high standards. He is NOT afraid to say what is real, for a fighting man, trained in combat, to feel, do, believe, and want to see done. He reveres his troops, and he expects them to perform even higher than he sets for their standards. He is dev**ed. He is not afraid to be a boss, and yet he does not bask in the glory or comforts that come with being the boss. He likes being a Marine, and his JOB is being a General. But he relates to the troops like a troop leader, like a troop relates to other troops. He tells the t***h. His mission is to finish, and do so with the least amount of damage to HIS (our) people. He does not have much to say about what will happen to the other side, or a statement about what damages they will have - other than it will be wh**ever it takes to win, and get the enemy to submit, quit, and surrender.
That kind of leadership, and p***e and talk and true commitment to your people, makes your people love you. Giving them the support and the backing to let them DO THEIR JOB, is something many leaders of warriors have not done. Asking a Marine, or other soldier to hold back, don’t attack, don’t take out the enemy when you see them is a corruption of their training and their inherent goal that carriers their reward for good work. They like him, since he’s unleashed them, to a large extent to do their jobs, and when finished, stop, and return, and stay prepared to do it again, somewhere else. Its style, management and leadership...that’s why they love him."
Rose, I did not doubt you knew the meaning of the ... (show quote)



Great additions to the thread slatts..

I knew very little about Mattis when he was appointed and with the many poor appointments made, I had some concern.. but every thing I have heard or seen him do, respect for him keep on growing..

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Oct 21, 2019 13:15:41   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Great additions to the thread slatts..

I knew very little about Mattis when he was appointed and with the many poor appointments made, I had some concern.. but every thing I have heard or seen him do, respect for him keep on growing..

SEMPER FI, Frosty

I would v**e for Mattis as President under any political banner.

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Oct 21, 2019 16:13:30   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
True!


Generals, good Generals like him live and breath the battlefield and there's another side to Mattis. On Christmas he takes cookies that his wife bakes to the men stuck on duty. He simply was never trained for diplomacy. That isn't a good or bad thing it just is.

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Oct 21, 2019 16:45:57   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Generals, good Generals like him live and breath the battlefield and there's another side to Mattis. On Christmas he takes cookies that his wife bakes to the men stuck on duty. He simply was never trained for diplomacy. That isn't a good or bad thing it just is.

There is a major flaw in your cookie story, Rob. James Mattis has never been married nor has he any children. Because he hasn't ever married, he has a history of filling in for junior officers during holidays so they could be with their families. Legend has it he hasn't even owned a television set.

He is known not only as 'MadDog,' but also as 'The Warrior Monk.' Read a prior post by me as to his knack for diplomacy.

https://www.historyguy.com/james_mattis_warrior_monk.htm

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Oct 25, 2019 20:28:31   #
promilitary
 
permafrost wrote:
In the entire orange mist obscuring Washington D.C.,Only general Mattis stood out as a true and outstanding appointment by the orange man obsessed with paying off his supporters with cabinet positions and duty bound to destroy the agencies they were put in charge of..

but even the finest can have more of the crime then the can stomach and so General Mattis left the clown filled administration over the Turkey/Kurd dilemma..

True to type the orange mistake lost little time insulting and abusing this truly fine American..

A few days ago, live and on stage Mattis made a small set of remarks in jest..

read below...

With tongue in cheek, General Mattis delivered a bloody ripper spillage of hilarious criticism.

“I’m not just an overrated general. I’m the greatest, the world’s most overrated,” said General Mattis.

“I earned my spurs on the battlefield; Donald Trump earned his spurs in a letter from a doctor,” Mattis said.

In another one line quip he said: “A year according to White House time is about 9,000 hours of executive time, or 1,800 holes of golf.”

Mattis also compared himself to Meryl Streep when he reminded the dinner attendees that they both had been denigrated by trump as “overrated”. The president denounced Mattis as “the most overrated general” when he met members of Congress on Wednesday to discuss his recent controversial decision to pull US troops out of Syria. trump said Mattis was “the world’s most overrated general. You know why? He wasn’t tough enough.”

“I’m honored to be called that [overrated] by Donald Trump, because he also called Meryl Streep an overrated actress,” Mattis said on Thursday night. “So I guess I’m the Meryl Streep of generals.” Amid the laughter, he said, “And frankly that sounds pretty good to me. And you do have to admit that between me and Meryl … at least we’ve had some victories.”

Just brilliant.
In the entire orange mist obscuring Washington D.C... (show quote)







Trump came across as a total ignorant i***t here.

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Oct 26, 2019 10:59:10   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Generals, good Generals like him live and breath the battlefield and there's another side to Mattis. On Christmas he takes cookies that his wife bakes to the men stuck on duty. He simply was never trained for diplomacy. That isn't a good or bad thing it just is.


I, personally, never liked Mattis. he did some good things and had his good points but I found him to be disingenuous. F**e. No doubt he was a formidable foe to his enemies, but his reverse wasn't good.

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