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Oct 19, 2019 12:52:01   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
rjoeholl wrote:
Now, now Jimdog, Democrats don't lie, they "misspeak".


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Just like Mick Mulvaney first admitting Trumpet’s Ukraine phone call had quid quo pro as a backdrop, then, claiming he “...NEVER SAID THAT!” Which is that scenario, a “lie” or a “misspeak?”

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Oct 19, 2019 13:02:17   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
byronglimish wrote:
We've known for some time now that your meter needs recalibrated.


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You’re right, byron, it does need recalibrating. Every time it hears anything said by a GOPTPer, the amount of BS registered on its dial exceeds its highest reading.

Perhaps I need to get a BS meter that can measure the ever increasing, ultra-high amounts of BS uttered by the GOPTPers on the OPP and in DC. Then again, a BS meter that can measure these ever increasing, ultra-high amounts of BS uttered by the GOPTPers on the OPP and in DC hasn’t been built yet because the strength of the materials needed hasn’t been invented yet. Now, do you understand my quandary? until that new and improved model of a BS meter comes out, I’m stuck with using the one I have.

What was it Mulvaney said? “Deal with it!”

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Oct 19, 2019 14:21:30   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
alabuck wrote:
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You’re right, byron, it does need recalibrating. Every time it hears anything said by a GOPTPer, the amount of BS registered on its dial exceeds its highest reading.

Perhaps I need to get a BS meter that can measure the ever increasing, ultra-high amounts of BS uttered by the GOPTPers on the OPP and in DC. Then again, a BS meter that can measure these ever increasing, ultra-high amounts of BS uttered by the GOPTPers on the OPP and in DC hasn’t been built yet because the strength of the materials needed hasn’t been invented yet. Now, do you understand my quandary? until that new and improved model of a BS meter comes out, I’m stuck with using the one I have.

What was it Mulvaney said? “Deal with it!”
——————— br You’re right, byron, it does need recal... (show quote)


The whole impeachment charade is moot.

This BullBiden won't unseat the President, Deal with that!"

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Oct 19, 2019 14:33:03   #
Sew_What
 
alabuck wrote:
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Just like Mick Mulvaney first admitting Trumpet’s Ukraine phone call had quid quo pro as a backdrop, then, claiming he “...NEVER SAID THAT!” Which is that scenario, a “lie” or a “misspeak?”


Orwellian

Winston will erase from Fox News feed and NBC/CBS will loop it all day long.

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Oct 19, 2019 17:08:44   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
jimdog1 wrote:
Evil untrue LIES
So we have little white lies, relatively inconsequential grey lies, and then the big evil black lies with the worst of consequences — consequences that hurt people and change their lives. Each time, the Democrats move on again, with further efforts and more lies, to distract from the big evil black lie now with a life of its own. And too often, with the help of the media, Democrats succeed in changing the narrative, and focusing the public outrage elsewhere, rather than fading away in disgrace, as they should.
We are the recipients and victims of the big evil black lies, and we repeatedly fail to make the consequences matter. What are the consequences if no one imposes them? We're usually glad the scandal is over, the headlines will finally change, and we'll get to hear something different on the news.
Trump 2020
Evil untrue LIES br So we have little white lies, ... (show quote)


I agree and welcome to our little hell.

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Oct 19, 2019 17:21:10   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Sew_What wrote:
...sure they are: it's called dis-honesty. Sometimes lies can be interpreted as patronizing, embellishment, sweet-talking, salesmanship, sarcasm...all of these words diminish the power of a "lie".




So true...BUT "The President is guilty of treason and I have proof" fits NONE of those categories. That is just a flat out lie. Adam Schitt said this many times over most of 3 years. No sales pitch with that statement ( at least not toward the president), positively there is no sweet-talking, certainly no patronizing in the statement. It is distinctly and uniquely fitted to the definition of a lie. It is simply NOT TRUE. That's called a lie...flat out a lie.
There is no proof and I have proof of that...(if he had any proof we would be discussing ex-president Trump). So, to say that Trump is guilty while lying about having proof is slanderous at the least and the harm he has done to this country with his lies should put him on trial for treason. Naddler also fits this bill. Pelosi and the democratic candidates are just ignorant. But these two should be tried for treason against the USA.

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Oct 19, 2019 17:32:19   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Sew_What wrote:
...sure they are: it's called dis-honesty. Sometimes lies can be interpreted as patronizing, embellishment, sweet-talking, salesmanship, sarcasm...all of these words diminish the power of a "lie".


In a secularist world view without a transcendental perspective, words have no ontic reference, no objective reference with which to determine meaning. Words can mean anything the word smith wants them to mean and the listener can change the meaning of those words to mean wh**ever suits his POV. The same is true of morality. Without an objective moral reference, a transcendental perspective, what is right for one is wrong for another. Morality can mean wh**ever one wants it to mean. The result is, the t***h can be anything one wants it to be.

Postmodern philosophers such as Jacque Derrida, Michel Foucault, and Paul de Man have expounded on this.

It is based on an epistemology (a t***h basis) that holds to limitless instability, texts are stripped of their meaning and words are given no point of reference. The ground is always shifting in speech and thought and in any form of propositional t***h.

De Man put it this way: This proves that rhetoric radically suspends logic and opens up vertiginous possibilities of referential aberration.

What De Man is really saying is it takes you to dizzying heights of meaninglessness.

You pontificate about the meaning of words yet you have no clue what you are doing.

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Oct 20, 2019 05:19:05   #
DogLover99
 
jimdog1 wrote:
Evil untrue LIES
So we have little white lies, relatively inconsequential grey lies, and then the big evil black lies with the worst of consequences — consequences that hurt people and change their lives. Each time, the Democrats move on again, with further efforts and more lies, to distract from the big evil black lie now with a life of its own. And too often, with the help of the media, Democrats succeed in changing the narrative, and focusing the public outrage elsewhere, rather than fading away in disgrace, as they should.
We are the recipients and victims of the big evil black lies, and we repeatedly fail to make the consequences matter. What are the consequences if no one imposes them? We're usually glad the scandal is over, the headlines will finally change, and we'll get to hear something different on the news.
Trump 2020
Evil untrue LIES br So we have little white lies, ... (show quote)


Wait until the Inspector Generals Investigation report comes out. The Dummycrats will be looking for places to hide like the Cockroaches they are.

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Oct 20, 2019 07:25:32   #
Sew_What
 
maximus wrote:
So true...BUT "The President is guilty of treason and I have proof" fits NONE of those categories. That is just a flat out lie. Adam Schitt said this many times over most of 3 years. No sales pitch with that statement ( at least not toward the president), positively there is no sweet-talking, certainly no patronizing in the statement. It is distinctly and uniquely fitted to the definition of a lie. It is simply NOT TRUE. That's called a lie...flat out a lie.
There is no proof and I have proof of that...(if he had any proof we would be discussing ex-president Trump). So, to say that Trump is guilty while lying about having proof is slanderous at the least and the harm he has done to this country with his lies should put him on trial for treason. Naddler also fits this bill. Pelosi and the democratic candidates are just ignorant. But these two should be tried for treason against the USA.
So true...BUT "The President is guilty of tr... (show quote)


Please submit your conspiracy theories to president Trump!

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Oct 20, 2019 12:16:33   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Sew_What wrote:
Please submit your conspiracy theories to president Trump!


What conspiracy theory? Adam Schiff is a liar. If he had the evidence he claimed to have, why isn't Trump impeached? Because he is a liar.

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Oct 20, 2019 12:21:21   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
maximus wrote:
What conspiracy theory? Adam Schiff is a liar. If he had the evidence he claimed to have, why isn't Trump impeached? Because he is a liar.


They can't admit that Schiff lied to them, when he said he had seen positively, proof of collusion by Trump.

And this was not the case.

People of sound mind should have awakened.

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Oct 20, 2019 20:10:45   #
Sew_What
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
In a secularist world view without a transcendental perspective, words have no ontic reference, no objective reference with which to determine meaning. Words can mean anything the word smith wants them to mean and the listener can change the meaning of those words to mean wh**ever suits his POV. The same is true of morality. Without an objective moral reference, a transcendental perspective, what is right for one is wrong for another. Morality can mean wh**ever one wants it to mean. The result is, the t***h can be anything one wants it to be.

Postmodern philosophers such as Jacque Derrida, Michel Foucault, and Paul de Man have expounded on this.

It is based on an epistemology (a t***h basis) that holds to limitless instability, texts are stripped of their meaning and words are given no point of reference. The ground is always shifting in speech and thought and in any form of propositional t***h.

De Man put it this way: This proves that rhetoric radically suspends logic and opens up vertiginous possibilities of referential aberration.

What De Man is really saying is it takes you to dizzying heights of meaninglessness.

You pontificate about the meaning of words yet you have no clue what you are doing.
In a secularist world view without a transcendenta... (show quote)


You pontificate and have no idea what you are saying...and here's your sign.

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Oct 20, 2019 20:13:02   #
Sew_What
 
maximus wrote:
\ Adam Schiff is a liar. If he had the evidence he claimed to have, why isn't Trump impeached? Because he is a liar.


That would only be true if Trump didn't lie.

...but Trump confessed...to his staff, and then walked it back after Mulvaney said that there wasn't quid pro quo.

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Oct 20, 2019 20:48:48   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Sew_What wrote:
That would only be true if Trump didn't lie.

...but Trump confessed...to his staff, and then walked it back after Mulvaney said that there wasn't quid pro quo.


Makes no sense, but we can always count on you for that.

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Oct 20, 2019 20:52:59   #
Geo
 
jimdog1 wrote:
Evil untrue LIES
So we have little white lies, relatively inconsequential grey lies, and then the big evil black lies with the worst of consequences — consequences that hurt people and change their lives. Each time, the Democrats move on again, with further efforts and more lies, to distract from the big evil black lie now with a life of its own. And too often, with the help of the media, Democrats succeed in changing the narrative, and focusing the public outrage elsewhere, rather than fading away in disgrace, as they should.
We are the recipients and victims of the big evil black lies, and we repeatedly fail to make the consequences matter. What are the consequences if no one imposes them? We're usually glad the scandal is over, the headlines will finally change, and we'll get to hear something different on the news.
Trump 2020
Evil untrue LIES br So we have little white lies, ... (show quote)


What Black Lies are you talking about?

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