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Oct 16, 2019 22:12:44   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
After listening to the high (or low) points of yesterday’s Democrat debate I really have no idea where they stand as a party.
What is their China Policy? We all know what they’re against, but what would they do? What’s their trade policy? Lastly what’s their healthcare policy and how would they pay for it?
All I’ve seen is a bunch of pandering elites trying to hand out more than the next one. Oh well, like the libs on OPP, never a solution. They just agree they h**e Trump.

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Oct 16, 2019 22:18:26   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Just saw this on the Laura Ingram show. Before Trump. Democrats were skeptical of spy agencies. Now, they embrace the deep state. They said they want better trade deals. Won’t support the MCA. Almost always against endless wars. Now; keep wars going. What the hell are these people’s core values?

JFlorio wrote:
After listening to the high (or low) points of yesterday’s Democrat debate I really have no idea where they stand as a party.
What is their China Policy? We all know what they’re against, but what would they do? What’s their trade policy? Lastly what’s their healthcare policy and how would they pay for it?
All I’ve seen is a bunch of pandering elites trying to hand out more than the next one. Oh well, like the libs on OPP, never a solution. They just agree they h**e Trump.

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Oct 16, 2019 23:56:13   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
JFlorio wrote:
Just saw this on the Laura Ingram show. Before Trump. Democrats were skeptical of spy agencies. Now, they embrace the deep state. They said they want better trade deals. Won’t support the MCA. Almost always against endless wars. Now; keep wars going. What the hell are these people’s core values?


They've been taught to adopt the values of whoever is telling them what they are that day.

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Oct 16, 2019 23:58:02   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
BigMike wrote:
They've been taught to adopt the values of whoever is telling them what they are that day.


That’s true. They change supposed long held beliefs whenever they think it gives them an advantage.

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Oct 17, 2019 03:52:04   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
JFlorio wrote:
Just saw this on the Laura Ingram show. Before Trump. Democrats were skeptical of spy agencies. Now, they embrace the deep state. They said they want better trade deals. Won’t support the MCA. Almost always against endless wars. Now; keep wars going. What the hell are these people’s core values?


Party lines have been breaking down for a long time... Now it is becoming clearer...

In Canada the Party that received the second most v**es was known as the noble opposition...It was an honor and a responsibility... Today it is just opposition...

The same is true in the US...

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Oct 17, 2019 06:05:30   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I think you are correct. It’s all about party and opposing the other party.
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Party lines have been breaking down for a long time... Now it is becoming clearer...

In Canada the Party that received the second most v**es was known as the noble opposition...It was an honor and a responsibility... Today it is just opposition...

The same is true in the US...

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Oct 17, 2019 10:08:00   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
JFlorio wrote:
After listening to the high (or low) points of yesterday’s Democrat debate I really have no idea where they stand as a party.
What is their China Policy? We all know what they’re against, but what would they do? What’s their trade policy? Lastly what’s their healthcare policy and how would they pay for it?
All I’ve seen is a bunch of pandering elites trying to hand out more than the next one. Oh well, like the libs on OPP, never a solution. They just agree they h**e Trump.


There is a solution to China's rise but it means a completely new approach, the thing to remember is that Capitalism needs growth, optimum growth is 3% pa. without that Demand side economics can't make a profit.

Demand side economics failed completely in the 1980's.

Supply side economics took over and was also a failure in the present century.

Supply side economics was replaced by Credit side economics in November 2008 when the Fed started purchasing worthless securities.

All that money printing where does it go if it doesn't pump up consumer spending in which case there there would be inflation, at least money printing should be creating some inflation, what is the purpose of money printing if scarcity prevails ?.

The US is the only Country profiting from Forex trading the rest of the world is near contracting with slow growth or no growth which could become permanent, probably must become permanent as resources become in short supply.

China policy was the reason for Obama's pivot to the Pacific which failed to contain China, now superseded by Trump's trade war which is in meltdown.

The proper China policy should be an alternative to profit, same as health care policy, the profit motive is archaic in any business that employs more than a thousand people.

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Oct 17, 2019 11:54:47   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
RT friend wrote:
There is a solution to China's rise but it means a completely new approach, the thing to remember is that Capitalism needs growth, optimum growth is 3% pa. without that Demand side economics can't make a profit.

Demand side economics failed completely in the 1980's.

Supply side economics took over and was also a failure in the present century.

Supply side economics was replaced by Credit side economics in November 2008 when the Fed started purchasing worthless securities.

All that money printing where does it go if it doesn't pump up consumer spending in which case there there would be inflation, at least money printing should be creating some inflation, what is the purpose of money printing if scarcity prevails ?.

The US is the only Country profiting from Forex trading the rest of the world is near contracting with slow growth or no growth which could become permanent, probably must become permanent as resources become in short supply.

China policy was the reason for Obama's pivot to the Pacific which failed to contain China, now superseded by Trump's trade war which is in meltdown.

The proper China policy should be an alternative to profit, same as health care policy, the profit motive is archaic in any business that employs more than a thousand people.
There is a solution to China's rise but it means a... (show quote)


I disagree somewhat. Supply side Economics worked if you use as parameters, jobs created, revenue collected by the govt. and stronger GDP. The deficit went up because congress spent more. Been happening for years. If as revenue and job creation increases the asshats in D.C. would cut the size of government we would eventually see real economic growth with real interest rates determined by supply and demand , not the FED.
You are correct that the printing of money by the FED is what is going to k**l the economy eventually. Hyper inflation world wide could happen any time. It is ludicrous to believe companies would trade or buy and sell with China if you take profit out of the mix. Might as well make it illegal to do business with them. the purpose of money printing is to spur the economy (if you believe the FED) but in this case the FED is also keeping interest rates artificially low. Hence the inverse curve people are panicking about.

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Oct 17, 2019 12:55:53   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Party lines have been breaking down for a long time... Now it is becoming clearer...

In Canada the Party that received the second most v**es was known as the noble opposition...It was an honor and a responsibility... Today it is just opposition...

The same is true in the US...


Party lines have been breaking down because the parties have turned into dens of thieves.

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Oct 17, 2019 13:03:58   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
RT friend wrote:
There is a solution to China's rise but it means a completely new approach, the thing to remember is that Capitalism needs growth, optimum growth is 3% pa. without that Demand side economics can't make a profit.

Demand side economics failed completely in the 1980's.

Supply side economics took over and was also a failure in the present century.

Supply side economics was replaced by Credit side economics in November 2008 when the Fed started purchasing worthless securities.

All that money printing where does it go if it doesn't pump up consumer spending in which case there there would be inflation, at least money printing should be creating some inflation, what is the purpose of money printing if scarcity prevails ?.

The US is the only Country profiting from Forex trading the rest of the world is near contracting with slow growth or no growth which could become permanent, probably must become permanent as resources become in short supply.

China policy was the reason for Obama's pivot to the Pacific which failed to contain China, now superseded by Trump's trade war which is in meltdown.

The proper China policy should be an alternative to profit, same as health care policy, the profit motive is archaic in any business that employs more than a thousand people.
There is a solution to China's rise but it means a... (show quote)


The "Trade War" is part of the show.

Trump intends to take down Central Banking and he'll start with the Fed.

Chi has no more control of the Rothschild Cabal than the man in the moon. Putin too.

Fiat currencies have big problems attached for us little people, as I'm sure you know, and the biggest is once individuals, organizations, corporation and nations are as leveraged as the can stand they stop borrowing...which is a problem for the Cabal.

So they start a war, everyone needs money again and they start over.

Fk that! We need to get these people! They're monsters.

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Oct 17, 2019 17:44:03   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
BigMike wrote:
The "Trade War" is part of the show.

Trump intends to take down Central Banking and he'll start with the Fed.

Chi has no more control of the Rothschild Cabal than the man in the moon. Putin too.

Fiat currencies have big problems attached for us little people, as I'm sure you know, and the biggest is once individuals, organizations, corporation and nations are as leveraged as the can stand they stop borrowing...which is a problem for the Cabal.

So they start a war, everyone needs money again and they start over.

Fk that! We need to get these people! They're monsters.
The "Trade War" is part of the show. br ... (show quote)


I wondered where this was going. I agree with the last paragraph



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Oct 17, 2019 20:35:08   #
Mike Easterday
 
Just tax the liberals for the free stuff that they want.

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Oct 18, 2019 01:54:48   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
I wondered where this was going. I agree with the last paragraph


Their lust for money and power are the mildest of their compulsions...as we'll all soon see.

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