FLASHBACK: Biden Lied for Years About the Driver Involved in His Wife & Daughter's Death
Oct 16, 2019 16:11:48 #
FLASHBACK: Biden Lied for Years About the Driver Involved in His Wife & Daughter's Death
Stephen Green ~ October 16, 2019
While it's impossible to measure the grief of a man who loses his young wife and infant daughter in a car collision, it's both possible and necessary to take the measure of a man who spent years falsely claiming the other driver may have been drunk.
During Joe Biden's 2008 run as Barack Obama's running mate, Pamela Hamill -- the daughter of that other driver -- asked that the then-senator make a public apology for the years he'd spent impugning her father.
Curtis Dunn was driving the tractor-trailer that collided with the car driven by Biden's first wife, Neilia. Neilia was carrying their 13-month-old infant daughter with her, and young sons Beau and H****r were in the car, too. They were on their way to buy a Christmas tree when the accident occurred. Police at the time made the determination that Mrs. Biden drove into the path of the oncoming truck, possibly because she was looking the wrong way at a stop sign. Neilia and the girl died of their injuries, despite Dunn's attempts to provide first aid, and the Bidens' sons were also hurt very badly. POLITICO wrote in January of this year that a friend of Biden’s looked into the accident at the time and concluded, "She had a stop sign. The truck driver did not."
When Hamill made her apology request, the Newark Post reported that the chief prosecutor at the time, Jerome O. Herlihy, said that "there is no evidence" supporting Biden’s longstanding assertion that Dunn might have, in Biden's words, "drank his lunch" that terrible day. And yet, as Post reporter Carl Hamilton noted:
Biden has been alluding to alcohol being involved in the crash for nearly a decade. During a speech in 2001, Biden told an audience at University of Delaware that a drunken driver crashed into his family.
He told a similar story during a public appearance in 2007.
More recently, the vice p**********l candidate’s misrepresentation of Dunn has found its way into major newspapers, including the New York Times.
It also has been repeated on radio and on television by major news journalists, including CBS anchorwoman Katie Couric.
Yet Hamill said she had no idea Biden had been misrepresenting Dunn until late August.
Although Dunn was not at fault and was quick to render assistance, he was haunted by the accident for the rest of his life. Dunn passed away in 1999, 27 years later, but as his daughter told the Post, "He always got very solemn around Christmastime because the anniversary was Dec. 18, and he never wanted to celebrate the holidays."
After an exhaustive online search, I can find no mention of Biden ever apologizing to Hamill or to her family. And that POLITICO piece by Michael Kruse I quoted above? It was headlined, "How Grief Became Joe Biden’s Superpower," which is enough to make you sick after learning how Biden twisted the facts -- and his own grief -- for, what, a slicker stump speech?
Or as Jack Fowler asked back in April of this year, "It was a heartbreaking story all around, and with officials leaving no doubt of the truck driver’s complete innocence, what was the point of doing or saying anything more than letting Neilia and Naomi Biden rest in peace?" The answer to Fowler's question would seem to be revealed by that POLITICO profile: Biden chose to weaponize his grief, and any collateral damage be damned.
As a husband and as the father of two young boys, ages 9 and 13, I can all-too-well imagine the horror of receiving of phone call like the one Biden received on December 18, 1972. But to then spend years impugning the innocent driver who tried to save my own loved ones, despite just have been nearly k**led himself? That I can't imagine, and suspect you couldn't, either. We can, however, safely assess the character of the man who would do such a thing -- and then neglect to apologize when called on it -- as thoughtless, cruel, and very, very small.
I admit to some personal bias here. From the first time I became aware of Biden, during the 1988 p**********l primaries, I found his demeanor annoyingly f**e and cloyingly off-putting. My 19-year-old self had no way to know just how correct that assessment was.
Stephen Green ~ October 16, 2019
While it's impossible to measure the grief of a man who loses his young wife and infant daughter in a car collision, it's both possible and necessary to take the measure of a man who spent years falsely claiming the other driver may have been drunk.
During Joe Biden's 2008 run as Barack Obama's running mate, Pamela Hamill -- the daughter of that other driver -- asked that the then-senator make a public apology for the years he'd spent impugning her father.
Curtis Dunn was driving the tractor-trailer that collided with the car driven by Biden's first wife, Neilia. Neilia was carrying their 13-month-old infant daughter with her, and young sons Beau and H****r were in the car, too. They were on their way to buy a Christmas tree when the accident occurred. Police at the time made the determination that Mrs. Biden drove into the path of the oncoming truck, possibly because she was looking the wrong way at a stop sign. Neilia and the girl died of their injuries, despite Dunn's attempts to provide first aid, and the Bidens' sons were also hurt very badly. POLITICO wrote in January of this year that a friend of Biden’s looked into the accident at the time and concluded, "She had a stop sign. The truck driver did not."
When Hamill made her apology request, the Newark Post reported that the chief prosecutor at the time, Jerome O. Herlihy, said that "there is no evidence" supporting Biden’s longstanding assertion that Dunn might have, in Biden's words, "drank his lunch" that terrible day. And yet, as Post reporter Carl Hamilton noted:
Biden has been alluding to alcohol being involved in the crash for nearly a decade. During a speech in 2001, Biden told an audience at University of Delaware that a drunken driver crashed into his family.
He told a similar story during a public appearance in 2007.
More recently, the vice p**********l candidate’s misrepresentation of Dunn has found its way into major newspapers, including the New York Times.
It also has been repeated on radio and on television by major news journalists, including CBS anchorwoman Katie Couric.
Yet Hamill said she had no idea Biden had been misrepresenting Dunn until late August.
Although Dunn was not at fault and was quick to render assistance, he was haunted by the accident for the rest of his life. Dunn passed away in 1999, 27 years later, but as his daughter told the Post, "He always got very solemn around Christmastime because the anniversary was Dec. 18, and he never wanted to celebrate the holidays."
After an exhaustive online search, I can find no mention of Biden ever apologizing to Hamill or to her family. And that POLITICO piece by Michael Kruse I quoted above? It was headlined, "How Grief Became Joe Biden’s Superpower," which is enough to make you sick after learning how Biden twisted the facts -- and his own grief -- for, what, a slicker stump speech?
Or as Jack Fowler asked back in April of this year, "It was a heartbreaking story all around, and with officials leaving no doubt of the truck driver’s complete innocence, what was the point of doing or saying anything more than letting Neilia and Naomi Biden rest in peace?" The answer to Fowler's question would seem to be revealed by that POLITICO profile: Biden chose to weaponize his grief, and any collateral damage be damned.
As a husband and as the father of two young boys, ages 9 and 13, I can all-too-well imagine the horror of receiving of phone call like the one Biden received on December 18, 1972. But to then spend years impugning the innocent driver who tried to save my own loved ones, despite just have been nearly k**led himself? That I can't imagine, and suspect you couldn't, either. We can, however, safely assess the character of the man who would do such a thing -- and then neglect to apologize when called on it -- as thoughtless, cruel, and very, very small.
I admit to some personal bias here. From the first time I became aware of Biden, during the 1988 p**********l primaries, I found his demeanor annoyingly f**e and cloyingly off-putting. My 19-year-old self had no way to know just how correct that assessment was.
Oct 16, 2019 16:15:37 #
Oct 16, 2019 16:22:17 #
EL
Loc: Massachusetts
nwtk2007 wrote:
Sad story.
Always SO sad for both sides in an accident like that.
I wouldn't think one would ever even want to talk about it again never mind cash in on it in some way.
Oct 16, 2019 16:26:59 #
lpnmajor
Loc: Arkansas
Parky60 wrote:
b FLASHBACK: Biden Lied for Years About the Drive... (show quote)
Well, there you go................Trump is obviously innocent.
Oct 16, 2019 16:43:08 #
no propaganda please
Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
EL wrote:
Always SO sad for both sides in an accident like that.
I wouldn't think one would ever even want to talk about it again never mind cash in on it in some way.
I wouldn't think one would ever even want to talk about it again never mind cash in on it in some way.
A number of years ago we had a friend whose LARGE dog jumped their fence and chased a cat down the street. A car coming toward the dog tried to avoid hitting the animal and swerved on to the side walk hitting and k*****g a child who was around 7. A total accident, no ones fault but three families lives were torn apart for a number of years. The dogs owner attempted suicide, The car driver spent months in the hospital for a broken hip and horrible guilt feelings for at least 3 years, the the mother of the little girl who died really never recovered from the accident. In five minutes three families entered Hell. It can be so quick, but I can't imagine what would have happened if one of the parties had used the horrible accident as a way to get ahead in life.Cashing in on that kind of accident is just plain evil!!!
Oct 16, 2019 16:50:19 #
no propaganda please wrote:
A number of years ago we had a friend whose LARGE ... (show quote)
You say no one's fault, how about hitting the animal rather than go into stupid evasions that make no sense. My brother put my mom's car into a ditch trying to avoid hitting a frigging squirrel, they made him pay for the car because it was his fault, not an accident. When you try to evade an animal and hit a person it's stupid and was avoidable with any degree of common sense and perspective.
Oct 16, 2019 16:54:28 #
woodguru wrote:
You say no one's fault, how about hitting the animal rather than go into stupid evasions that make no sense. My brother put my mom's car into a ditch trying to avoid hitting a frigging squirrel, they made him pay for the car because it was his fault, not an accident. When you try to evade an animal and hit a person it's stupid and was avoidable with any degree of common sense and perspective.
Why is it you're always involved in some kind of experience that one ups every one else's? You always have a brother or sister or whoever who has experienced every story told but just a little bit better. You're an A$$!
Oct 16, 2019 17:15:37 #
EL
Loc: Massachusetts
woodguru wrote:
You say no one's fault, how about hitting the animal rather than go into stupid evasions that make no sense. My brother put my mom's car into a ditch trying to avoid hitting a frigging squirrel, they made him pay for the car because it was his fault, not an accident. When you try to evade an animal and hit a person it's stupid and was avoidable with any degree of common sense and perspective.
An A C C I D E N T is never a controlled/planned thing.
Oct 16, 2019 20:49:12 #
no propaganda please
Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
woodguru wrote:
You say no one's fault, how about hitting the animal rather than go into stupid evasions that make no sense. My brother put my mom's car into a ditch trying to avoid hitting a frigging squirrel, they made him pay for the car because it was his fault, not an accident. When you try to evade an animal and hit a person it's stupid and was avoidable with any degree of common sense and perspective.
Had she hit the 150 pound dog I would assume that the car would have gone out of control. I am only guessing at the weight of the dog, but it was a mastiff-Irish Wolfhound mix according to what I read. and considering that our Cane corso Mastiffs are around 140 pounds and this dog was supposedly larger I think it might have been like hitting a brick wall. Yes, avoiding a squirrel or small to medium size dog unless you can do it safely is foolish.
Oct 16, 2019 21:59:53 #
Parky60 wrote:
Why is it you're always involved in some kind of experience that one ups every one else's? You always have a brother or sister or whoever who has experienced every story told but just a little bit better. You're an A$$!
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed.
Oct 16, 2019 22:05:08 #
no propaganda please wrote:
Had she hit the 150 pound dog I would assume that the car would have gone out of control. I am only guessing at the weight of the dog, but it was a mastiff-Irish Wolfhound mix according to what I read. and considering that our Cane corso Mastiffs are around 140 pounds and this dog was supposedly larger I think it might have been like hitting a brick wall. Yes, avoiding a squirrel or small to medium size dog unless you can do it safely is foolish.
You're exactly right. In today's cars, hitting an animal that big would deploy airbags, rendering the driver helpless to control the vehicle.
Woodrow might be thinking back on his days of driving a big rig though, so give him a break.
Oct 16, 2019 22:21:06 #
archie bunker wrote:
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed.
I think a lot of people notice but they don’t mention it.
Oct 17, 2019 07:22:39 #
Oct 17, 2019 07:27:00 #
woodguru wrote:
You say no one's fault, how about hitting the animal rather than go into stupid evasions that make no sense. My brother put my mom's car into a ditch trying to avoid hitting a frigging squirrel, they made him pay for the car because it was his fault, not an accident. When you try to evade an animal and hit a person it's stupid and was avoidable with any degree of common sense and perspective.
It’s only instinct to avoid hitting something right in front of you when driving. Get over yourself.
Oct 17, 2019 13:15:17 #
padremike
Loc: Phenix City, Al
Rose42 wrote:
I think a lot of people notice but they don’t mention it.
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