2bltap
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Don't the progressives here think that not only President Trump the so called accused along with the American People not only need but deserve to know and see the Whistle Blower who accused the president of wrong doing Its in the CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS! How would any of our Progressive Members here feel if they were falsely or otherwise accused of wrong doing and unable to be face to face with your accuser?
Semper Fi
Mike
https://youtu.be/G0xwAccaQ0A
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Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
2bltap wrote:
Don't the progressives here think that not only President Trump the so called accused along with the American People not only need but deserve to know and see the Whistle Blower who accused the president of wrong doing Its in the CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS! How would any of our Progressive Members here feel if they were falsely or otherwise accused of wrong doing and unable to be face to face with your accuser?
Semper Fi
Mike
https://youtu.be/G0xwAccaQ0A Well it's well known that the progressives have a double standard which favors themselves !
2bltap wrote:
Don't the progressives here think that not only President Trump the so called accused along with the American People not only need but deserve to know and see the Whistle Blower who accused the president of wrong doing Its in the CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS! How would any of our Progressive Members here feel if they were falsely or otherwise accused of wrong doing and unable to be face to face with your accuser?
Semper Fi
Mike
https://youtu.be/G0xwAccaQ0AC*******m does not work that way.
Liberals have no standards when it comes to their actions.
Hug wrote:
C*******m does not work that way.
Agreed, c*******m does not work!
2bltap wrote:
Don't the progressives here think that not only President Trump the so called accused along with the American People not only need but deserve to know and see the Whistle Blower who accused the president of wrong doing Its in the CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS! How would any of our Progressive Members here feel if they were falsely or otherwise accused of wrong doing and unable to be face to face with your accuser?
Semper Fi
Mike
https://youtu.be/G0xwAccaQ0AThe Whistleblower laws are there for a purpose. The IG of wh**ever agency the complaint comes from, is responsible for determining the veracity of the claims, which prevents salacious claims from seeing the light of day. The ICIG did so, and determined that the substance of the complaint from this whistleblower had merit. The law also directs the appropriate Congressional committee to take a serious look at the complaint forwarded to it by the agency IG, as part of it's oversight responsibilities and authority.
When this inquiry is finished, the Committees will have independently verified each and every component of the whistleblowers complaint, or it will have debunked them. This is the equivalent of an anonymous phone call to the police about suspicious activity at a particular home, where responding officers discover a dead body. You're trying to suggest that the murderer may not be prosecuted, because he/she cannot question the anonymous caller.
2bltap wrote:
Don't the progressives here think that not only President Trump the so called accused along with the American People not only need but deserve to know and see the Whistle Blower who accused the president of wrong doing Its in the CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS! How would any of our Progressive Members here feel if they were falsely or otherwise accused of wrong doing and unable to be face to face with your accuser?
Semper Fi
Mike
https://youtu.be/G0xwAccaQ0ANothing could be more fundamental than the right of an accused to face his accuser, whether the accused is a nobody, or the President of the United States. The Dems talk about wanting to protect the accuser and there are laws on the books designed to do just that - protect the whistleblower from any adverse action as a result of their whistleblowing.
But now the Dems are suggesting that protecting the whistleblower means protecting his/her identity. Preposterous!!!
Without the right to cross examine the accuser in person, there's no opportunity to explore biases, motivations, demeanor, ability to perceive wrongdoing or a host of other relevant factors.
Now Shifty Schiff is saying the whistleblower doesn't even need to be interrogated since Trump's released the transcript. He doesn't want people to know how c*********d the so-called whistleblower really is.
It's all just another episode in the ongoing saga of Wyle E Coyote Dem's efforts to eliminate Road Runner Trump for beating Hillary in 2016.
Beep beep! Zoom!
lpnmajor wrote:
The Whistleblower laws are there for a purpose. The IG of wh**ever agency the complaint comes from, is responsible for determining the veracity of the claims, which prevents salacious claims from seeing the light of day. The ICIG did so, and determined that the substance of the complaint from this whistleblower had merit. The law also directs the appropriate Congressional committee to take a serious look at the complaint forwarded to it by the agency IG, as part of it's oversight responsibilities and authority.
When this inquiry is finished, the Committees will have independently verified each and every component of the whistleblowers complaint, or it will have debunked them. This is the equivalent of an anonymous phone call to the police about suspicious activity at a particular home, where responding officers discover a dead body. You're trying to suggest that the murderer may not be prosecuted, because he/she cannot question the anonymous caller.
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There is no whistleblower!
2bltap wrote:
Don't the progressives here think that not only President Trump the so called accused along with the American People not only need but deserve to know and see the Whistle Blower who accused the president of wrong doing Its in the CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS! How would any of our Progressive Members here feel if they were falsely or otherwise accused of wrong doing and unable to be face to face with your accuser?
Semper Fi
Mike
https://youtu.be/G0xwAccaQ0ADo you really expect them to answer you lucidly Mike? You might get some party line answer for example the other day I asked Peter if it was exhilarating when he shoplifted a dvd player from Walmart. I don't have any evidence, I was just playing whistleblower.
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Do you really expect them to answer you lucidly Mike? You might get some party line answer for example the other day I asked Peter if it was exhilarating when he shoplifted a dvd player from Walmart. I don't have any evidence, I was just playing whistleblower.
And he is a molester also!
2bltap wrote:
Don't the progressives here think that not only President Trump the so called accused along with the American People not only need but deserve to know and see the Whistle Blower who accused the president of wrong doing Its in the CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS! How would any of our Progressive Members here feel if they were falsely or otherwise accused of wrong doing and unable to be face to face with your accuser?
Semper Fi
Mike
https://youtu.be/G0xwAccaQ0ABy not calling for a full House v**e, Pelosi along with Adam Schiff, Chairman of the Select Committee on Intelligence, Eliot Engel, Chairman of Foreign Affairs Committee and Elijah Cummings (up until today), Chairman of the Oversight Committee, are not actually calling for a FORMAL impeachment hearing...they are just fishing around to see if they can come up with some kind of crime that will stick. They need to have rock solid evidence that Trump himself personally committed a crime. Then they need to tell the rest of Congress what that crime is, and then have a v**e to impeach (charge Trump with that crime) for it to go to the Senate for trial. It is at that point that Trump and his lawyers will be able to call witnesses and cross examine. Because they are not calling for a full House v**e, they have chosen to have these hundred or so committee members, behind closed doors and secretly down in the basement without letting any other members of Congress into their "hearings" doing God knows what to dig up something to charge Trump with that crime and get all the other Democratic members of Congress who are not there (about 310 of them) to believe wh**ever they pull out of their a$$es and v**e to impeach.
lpnmajor wrote:
The Whistleblower laws are there for a purpose. The IG of wh**ever agency the complaint comes from, is responsible for determining the veracity of the claims, which prevents salacious claims from seeing the light of day. The ICIG did so, and determined that the substance of the complaint from this whistleblower had merit. The law also directs the appropriate Congressional committee to take a serious look at the complaint forwarded to it by the agency IG, as part of it's oversight responsibilities and authority.
When this inquiry is finished, the Committees will have independently verified each and every component of the whistleblowers complaint, or it will have debunked them. This is the equivalent of an anonymous phone call to the police about suspicious activity at a particular home, where responding officers discover a dead body. You're trying to suggest that the murderer may not be prosecuted, because he/she cannot question the anonymous caller.
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Well, yes. Although it would not likely happen in a real courtroom, if the prosecution knew who the "anonymous" caller was and refused to allow the accused lawyers to question the caller and the role of the caller was significant to the investigation implicating the accused, the judge would declare a mistrial or a conviction would be overturned.
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