proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

And President Trump doesn't???

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

He's being treated in exactly the same way. Determining the facts is not subject to partisan editing, they are what they are. Now, IF the House v**es to impeach at some point in the future, Trump will be represented at the Senate trial and his lawyers may examine witnesses and refute documentation.

Trying to prevent or circumvent fact finding, makes Trump look weak, scared...............and guilty. The inquiry phase is NOT subject to "alternative facts", only verifiable, beyond reasonable doubt evidence may be used. If the committee recommends impeachment, the substance of the offenses must be spelled out in the articles to impeach.......................and the whole world will know what those are.

EL Loc: Massachusetts

Donald Trump doesn't because there are so many politicians out there that are SO scared of him finding out just what they are and disclosing same that the only defense is to get rid of him any way they can. We'll be finding out someday just how crooked these behind the door politicians really are and I'm betting they're all pretty darned dirty!

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

They should bring inquiry to the full floor just like they did for Clinton otherwise it's incredibly unfair!!!

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

They haven't got anything TO bring to the floor yet. Why does Trump want this rushed? When the inquiry closes, the evidence will be presented to the House along with articles of impeachment. The law does not require the full House to be involved in the inquiry. Much of the material requested by the committees would be classified, thus not subject to perusal by anyone without the appropriate security clearances.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

You would be shocked if you read the two page document prepared by the Republican led HJC that specified the rights and privileges of president Clinton during his impeachment proceedings. He was afforded every courtesy, every right under due process, every privilege, and every opportunity to present his defense that is given to any American citizen accused of a crime. That included his right to confront his accusers and to investigate their allegations, and to know the specific charges against him, his right to call his own witnesses in both HJC inquiries and during senate trial, his right to investigate the background and depositions of hostile witnesses and for his defense attorney to cross examine them both during House inquiry and during senate trial, his right to discovery materials (which is all documentation CLASSIFIED or not, witness lists, and materials generated by the authorities filing the charge and prosecuting them, i.e., the House inquiry and the senate trial.)

To be succinct, due process in Bill Clinton's impeachment began the instant the charges were filed against him. His right to defense began then, not when the Articles were submitted to the senate.

The l*****ts' ignorance of our constitutional and legal rights to due process is appalling.

Ricktloml

President Trump is NOT being treated the exact same way. Democrats were privy to every part of the process, were able able to call and cross examine witnesses, and Clinton had attorneys present. It was not done in secret, behind closed doors.

PeterS

And how isn't Trump getting a fair shake?

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Why don’t you just think back when Clinton was being impeached

Seth

They don't want to do that because there are doubtless a number of moderate Democrat representatives who know what v****g for any sort of impeachment proceedings will do to their ree******n chances in their districts when the whole thing blows up in the Democrats' faces.

PeterS

And where in the constitution does it say due process grants a president the right to argue his case before Congress even before it has been decided if he is to be impeached? I can see why you would want Trump's lawyers to argue before Congress because it would just d**g the whole process out even further. This may surprise you but this is why Pelosi is keeping it behind closed doors so as not to give cons the opportunity to stall the inevitable. Trump will have his chance to argue his position before a Senate that is made up of biased individuals such as yourself so exactly what is it you are complaining about?

Snip>>Procedure
At the federal level, the impeachment process is a three-step procedure.

First, the Congress investigates. This investigation typically begins in the House Judiciary Committee, but may begin elsewhere. For example, the Nixon impeachment inquiry began in the Senate Judiciary Committee. The facts that led to the impeachment of Bill Clinton were first discovered in the course of an investigation by Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr.

Second, the House of Representatives must pass, by a simple majority of those present and v****g, articles of impeachment, which constitute the formal allegation or allegations. Upon passage, the defendant has been "impeached".

Third, the Senate tries the accused. In the case of the impeachment of a president, the Chief Justice of the United States presides over the proceedings. For the impeachment of any other official, the Constitution is silent on who shall preside, suggesting that this role falls to the Senate's usual presiding officer, the President of the Senate who is also the Vice President of the United States. Conviction in the Senate requires a two-thirds supermajority v**e of those present. The result of conviction is removal from office.

Given that the impeachment of Bill Clinton stemmed from facts discovered by Ken Starr and not Congress that might be the reason he was allowed legal representation?

Here Congress is still holding hearings to determine if Trump has committed a crime that merits that he be impeached. Are your rights being violated if you weren't granted legal representation in a grand jury who has yet to decide if you committed a crime? Based on your argument you would answer yes, in which case you would be completely wrong...

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

This impeachment BS is useless,since the Senate WILL NEVER impeach President Trump!!!

PeterS

Clinton was impeached based on facts discovered by Ken Starr, not Congress. At this point, Congress still hasn't determined if Trump has committed a crime worthy of being impeached so if Congress has yet to determine a crime what exactly are Trump's lawyers going to argue?