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Oct 14, 2019 12:06:33   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
I say the biggest misconception is that Trump supporting Republicans are dumb, uneducated, misinformed, lazy minded, tribalistic xenophobes who base decisions on race or religion. I know the loud minority is the most vocal and easiest to notice and take exception with, but, there’s no denying that observably when anti-trumpets dismiss or criticize the President, they miscategorize all Trump supporters with generalized broad brush labels of misinformed, Fox news watching (as though Fox were any worse than CNN, MSNBC, NYT, HuffPo, the Post, etc.), old, cowardly r****ts. I particularly find most that use these dehumanizing attacks designed to both condescend, shame into compliance, intimidate or, dismiss are espoused by people who have a very simplistic, tepid understanding of issues or the facts of issues, and yet, do not lack of p***e and stubbornness, nor angry vitriol. More often than not, when I push them on issues, they will quickly grow angry, throw out more parroted cliches or f**e news, deflect, try and change the subject, and then just insult and slander and flee.

The t***h is, most Trump supporting people aren’t dumb. At least, no dumber than those that oppose him. Sure, there are stupid or uninformed Trump fans, and everyone has an anecdotal example. But, there are just as many stupid and uninformed Trump h**ers. Perhaps more. The simple fact is, most Trump supporting conservatives, classic liberals, walk-away’ers, legal immigrants, etc like Trump because they’re tired. They’re good, moral, humble, hard working, principled, patriotic, proud Americans who are simply tired of the left’s bulls**t. Tired of policies that hurt Americans. Tired of being vilified. Tired of being ignored, and our problems dismissed. Tired of our values and culture being mocked, insulted, co-opted or destroyed. Tired of being forced to swallow ever increasingly radical ideology and practices, and labeled an “ist” or “phobe” if we offer even the slightest resistance. Tired of being condescended to by the media, lied to by the media, manipulated by the media. Tired of being met with such bitter, angry, scornful rhetoric. Tired of being guilted. Tired of attacks on our religions (Christianity, Judaism) in favor of submission to other’s religions (environmentalism, Islam). Tired of having the family attacked, divided, destroyed. Tired of criticism of American values, freedoms, ideals. Tired of anti-patriotism. Tired of identity politics, cancel culture, tired of political corruption or political violence, tired of attacks on the 1st and 2nd amendment, tired of a push for socialism, tired of the outright h**e, just tired, tired, tired.

And, that is why Trump was elected. And until this is understood, Trump supporters won’t stop backing him. Because, even if there are issues we take with the man (God knows I do), at the end of the day he fights for what WE want. As the media becomes ever increasingly dishonest, hyperbolic, manipulative, and propagandizing, as the democrats become increasingly aggressive, desperate, and rule-breaking, as Hollywood, and Academia become ever more radically progressive, as Silicon valley becomes ever more totalitarian in their censorship, Trump’s base grows. We grow in numbers, and we grow in anger. And, thus far it’s been mostly peaceful, and civil, contained to an e******n (2016) that has been attempted to overturn since. From here, things will grow more hostile and, I fear, violent, if Trump supporting Americans are continued to be vilified, dismissed, insulted and attacked.

And that’s another thing non-Trump democrats, and l*****ts need to understand. There are a lot more of us than you realize. A lot more. The cinched up tolerance and freedom to express thought digitally through social media may have lulled you into a false world view. Existing in an echo chamber, you may feel Trump supporting people are an outlying minority. You’d be wrong. There are Trump supporters everywhere, all around you, and you don’t even realize it. Many, hell, MOST may even be closeted about it, or reluctant to admit it, out of fear of retaliation or castigation, judgment, ruination, but, they’re out there. The silent v****g majority. And, given the extreme lengths the left has gone to these past three years, I assure you…that base has grown. I, for example, was anti-Trump, and now am a supporter. I am just one of probably millions or tens of millions. If nothing else, logic dictates that even moderates that dislike Trump would find him favorable to open-border socialists who push identity politics. Understand that the more extreme you get, the more secure you make his position and popularity.

But, this is just one man’s opinion. Take it for what you will.

The above written by Trey Brannon, who worked at The New York Times (2007-2010)

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Oct 14, 2019 12:18:13   #
bahmer
 
slatten49 wrote:
I say the biggest misconception is that Trump supporting Republicans are dumb, uneducated, misinformed, lazy minded, tribalistic xenophobes who base decisions on race or religion. I know the loud minority is the most vocal and easiest to notice and take exception with, but, there’s no denying that observably when anti-trumpets dismiss or criticize the President, they miscategorize all Trump supporters with generalized broad brush labels of misinformed, Fox news watching (as though Fox were any worse than CNN, MSNBC, NYT, HuffPo, the Post, etc.), old, cowardly r****ts. I particularly find most that use these dehumanizing attacks designed to both condescend, shame into compliance, intimidate or, dismiss are espoused by people who have a very simplistic, tepid understanding of issues or the facts of issues, and yet, do not lack of p***e and stubbornness, nor angry vitriol. More often than not, when I push them on issues, they will quickly grow angry, throw out more parroted cliches or f**e news, deflect, try and change the subject, and then just insult and slander and flee.

The t***h is, most Trump supporting people aren’t dumb. At least, no dumber than those that oppose him. Sure, there are stupid or uninformed Trump fans, and everyone has an anecdotal example. But, there are just as many stupid and uninformed Trump h**ers. Perhaps more. The simple fact is, most Trump supporting conservatives, classic liberals, walk-away’ers, legal immigrants, etc like Trump because they’re tired. They’re good, moral, humble, hard working, principled, patriotic, proud Americans who are simply tired of the left’s bulls**t. Tired of policies that hurt Americans. Tired of being vilified. Tired of being ignored, and our problems dismissed. Tired of our values and culture being mocked, insulted, coopted or destroyed. Tired of being forced to swallow ever increasingly radical ideology and practices, and labeled an “ist” or “phobe” if we offer even the slightest resistance. Tired of being condescended to by the media, lied to by the media, manipulated by the media. Tired of being met with such bitter, angry, scornful rhetoric. Tired of being guilted. Tired of attacks on our religions (Christianity, Judaism) in favor of submission to other’s religions (environmentalism, Islam). Tired of having the family attacked, divided, destroyed. Tired of criticism of American values, freedoms, ideals. Tired of anti-patriotism. Tired of identity politics, cancel culture, tired of political corruption or political violence, tired of attacks on the 1st and 2nd amendment, tired of a push for socialism, tired of the outright h**e, just tired, tired, tired.

And, that is why Trump was elected. And until this is understood, Trump supporters won’t stop backing him. Because, even if there are issues we take with the man (God knows I do), at the end of the day he fights for what WE want. As the media becomes ever increasingly dishonest, hyperbolic, manipulative, and propagandizing, as the democrats become increasingly aggressive, desperate, and rule-breaking, as Hollywood, and Academia become ever more radically progressive, as Silicon valley becomes ever more totalitarian in their censorship, Trump’s base grows. We grow in numbers, and we grow in anger. And, thus far it’s been mostly peaceful, and civil, contained to an e******n (2016) that has been attempted to overturn since. From here, things will grow more hostile and, I fear, violent, if Trump supporting Americans are continued to be vilified, dismissed, insulted and attacked.

And that’s another thing non-Trump democrats, and l*****ts need to understand. There are a lot more of us than you realize. A lot more. The cinched up tolerance and freedom to express thought digitally through social media may have lulled you into a false world view. Existing in an echo chamber, you may feel Trump supporting people are an outlying minority. You’d be wrong. There are Trump supporters everywhere, all around you, and you don’t even realize it. Many, hell, MOST may even be closeted about it, or reluctant to admit it, out of fear of retaliation or castigation, judgment, ruination, but, they’re out there. The silent v****g majority. And, given the extreme lengths the left has gone to these past three years, I assure you…that base has grown. I, for example, was anti-Trump, and now am a supporter. I am just one of probably millions or tens of millions. If nothing else, logic dictates that even moderates that dislike Trump would find him favorable to open-border socialists who push identity politics. Understand that the more extreme you get, the more secure you make his position and popularity.

But, this is just one man’s opinion. Take it for what you will.

The above written by Trey Brannon, who worked at The New York Times (2007-2010)
I say the biggest misconception is that Trump supp... (show quote)


Amen and Amen, an excellent article and so unlike you. Just kidding, you will get static from your fans for this, you do know that don't you?

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Oct 14, 2019 12:28:28   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
bahmer wrote:
Amen and Amen, an excellent article and so unlike you. Just kidding, you will get static from your fans for this, you do know that don't you?

My friend, as I've made clear many times on this forum (depending upon my thread or posting) I get it from both sides. I have a fairly varied frienemey base. If an article is well-written...and this one is, even to a 'never-Trump-er'...I will post and live with it. How people choose to label me is up to them.

I am who I am.

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Oct 14, 2019 12:30:24   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
I say the biggest misconception is that Trump supporting Republicans are dumb, uneducated, misinformed, lazy minded, tribalistic xenophobes who base decisions on race or religion. I know the loud minority is the most vocal and easiest to notice and take exception with, but, there’s no denying that observably when anti-trumpets dismiss or criticize the President, they miscategorize all Trump supporters with generalized broad brush labels of misinformed, Fox news watching (as though Fox were any worse than CNN, MSNBC, NYT, HuffPo, the Post, etc.), old, cowardly r****ts. I particularly find most that use these dehumanizing attacks designed to both condescend, shame into compliance, intimidate or, dismiss are espoused by people who have a very simplistic, tepid understanding of issues or the facts of issues, and yet, do not lack of p***e and stubbornness, nor angry vitriol. More often than not, when I push them on issues, they will quickly grow angry, throw out more parroted cliches or f**e news, deflect, try and change the subject, and then just insult and slander and flee.

The t***h is, most Trump supporting people aren’t dumb. At least, no dumber than those that oppose him. Sure, there are stupid or uninformed Trump fans, and everyone has an anecdotal example. But, there are just as many stupid and uninformed Trump h**ers. Perhaps more. The simple fact is, most Trump supporting conservatives, classic liberals, walk-away’ers, legal immigrants, etc like Trump because they’re tired. They’re good, moral, humble, hard working, principled, patriotic, proud Americans who are simply tired of the left’s bulls**t. Tired of policies that hurt Americans. Tired of being vilified. Tired of being ignored, and our problems dismissed. Tired of our values and culture being mocked, insulted, coopted or destroyed. Tired of being forced to swallow ever increasingly radical ideology and practices, and labeled an “ist” or “phobe” if we offer even the slightest resistance. Tired of being condescended to by the media, lied to by the media, manipulated by the media. Tired of being met with such bitter, angry, scornful rhetoric. Tired of being guilted. Tired of attacks on our religions (Christianity, Judaism) in favor of submission to other’s religions (environmentalism, Islam). Tired of having the family attacked, divided, destroyed. Tired of criticism of American values, freedoms, ideals. Tired of anti-patriotism. Tired of identity politics, cancel culture, tired of political corruption or political violence, tired of attacks on the 1st and 2nd amendment, tired of a push for socialism, tired of the outright h**e, just tired, tired, tired.

And, that is why Trump was elected. And until this is understood, Trump supporters won’t stop backing him. Because, even if there are issues we take with the man (God knows I do), at the end of the day he fights for what WE want. As the media becomes ever increasingly dishonest, hyperbolic, manipulative, and propagandizing, as the democrats become increasingly aggressive, desperate, and rule-breaking, as Hollywood, and Academia become ever more radically progressive, as Silicon valley becomes ever more totalitarian in their censorship, Trump’s base grows. We grow in numbers, and we grow in anger. And, thus far it’s been mostly peaceful, and civil, contained to an e******n (2016) that has been attempted to overturn since. From here, things will grow more hostile and, I fear, violent, if Trump supporting Americans are continued to be vilified, dismissed, insulted and attacked.

And that’s another thing non-Trump democrats, and l*****ts need to understand. There are a lot more of us than you realize. A lot more. The cinched up tolerance and freedom to express thought digitally through social media may have lulled you into a false world view. Existing in an echo chamber, you may feel Trump supporting people are an outlying minority. You’d be wrong. There are Trump supporters everywhere, all around you, and you don’t even realize it. Many, hell, MOST may even be closeted about it, or reluctant to admit it, out of fear of retaliation or castigation, judgment, ruination, but, they’re out there. The silent v****g majority. And, given the extreme lengths the left has gone to these past three years, I assure you…that base has grown. I, for example, was anti-Trump, and now am a supporter. I am just one of probably millions or tens of millions. If nothing else, logic dictates that even moderates that dislike Trump would find him favorable to open-border socialists who push identity politics. Understand that the more extreme you get, the more secure you make his position and popularity.

But, this is just one man’s opinion. Take it for what you will.

The above written by Trey Brannon, who worked at The New York Times (2007-2010)
I say the biggest misconception is that Trump supp... (show quote)



Also my opinion
I fully agree with Mr Brannon


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Oct 14, 2019 12:32:21   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
[quote=badbobby]Also my opinion
I fully agree with Mr Brannon

[quote]

Did Mr. Brannon plagarize you, BB

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Oct 14, 2019 12:32:33   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
badbobby wrote:
Also my opinion
I fully agree with Mr Brannon



thanks for posting Slat
I know it was hard for you
I also know you disagree with Mr Brannon
If I remember correctly
I told you sometime back
that I had moved from the middle of the road
to being a Trump supporter
for the very same reasons explained by Mr Brannon

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Oct 14, 2019 12:37:29   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
badbobby wrote:
thanks for posting Slat
I know it was hard for you
I also know you disagree with Mr Brannon

Actually, Ancient Mariner, read my response to your First Mate, Bahmer.

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Oct 14, 2019 12:41:58   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
[quote=slatten49][quote=badbobby]Also my opinion
I fully agree with Mr Brannon

Quote:


Did Mr. Brannon plagarize you, BB

I couldn't say it that well

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Oct 14, 2019 12:45:19   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
My friend, as I've made clear many times on this forum (depending upon my thread or posting) I get it from both sides. I have a fairly varied frienemey base. If an article is well-written...and this one is, even to a 'never-Trump-er'...I will post and live with it. How people choose to label me is up to them.

I am who I am.

as Popeye says
"I yam what I yam!!!"

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Oct 14, 2019 12:46:55   #
bahmer
 
badbobby wrote:
I couldn't say it that well


I also posted one about you taking a business trip on here. I think that you may enjoy it.

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Oct 14, 2019 12:57:50   #
bahmer
 
bahmer wrote:
I also posted one about you taking a business trip on here. I think that you may enjoy it.


Badbobby on business for pleasure.

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Oct 14, 2019 13:15:05   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
badbobby wrote:
as Popeye says
"I yam what I yam!!!"

Popeye is just 'nother cartoonish Squid.

Marines are what they are..."America's finest."

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Oct 14, 2019 13:20:32   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
badbobby wrote:
thanks for posting Slat
I know it was hard for you
I also know you disagree with Mr Brannon
If I remember correctly
I told you sometime back
that I had moved from the middle of the road
to being a Trump supporter
for the very same reasons explained by Mr Brannon

Both the left and right have many as described by Mr. Brannon. He simply wrote his opinion of how he views others misunderstanding Trump supporters. IMO, he did it well.

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Oct 14, 2019 13:22:22   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Popeye is just 'nother cartoonish Squid.

Marines are what they are..."America's finest."


true Popeye is a cartoon
but he is as loyal and true as any dern Jarhead

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Oct 14, 2019 13:22:30   #
bahmer
 
slatten49 wrote:
Both the left and right have many as described by Mr. Brannon. He simply wrote his opinion of how he views others misunderstanding Trump supporters. IMO, he did it well.


Yes he did and you did good by posting it as well.

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