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Oct 12, 2019 23:14:17   #
rumitoid
 
Caution: graphic descriptions.

I do and I don't. In a way, no matter what a person has done, no matter how heinous an act by society, we are to look for his repentance, and show mercy. Rape, torture, and sexual abuse of a child. I have to be a heartless asshole not to want them dead in the worse possible way. Nothing can make up for what they have done, no punishment sufficient. But I am supposed to look to their salvation. Is that just?

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Oct 12, 2019 23:30:52   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
rumitoid wrote:
Caution: graphic descriptions.

I do and I don't. In a way, no matter what a person has done, no matter how heinous an act by society, we are to look for his repentance, and show mercy. Rape, torture, and sexual abuse of a child. I have to be a heartless asshole not to want them dead in the worse possible way. Nothing can make up for what they have done, no punishment sufficient. But I am supposed to look to their salvation. Is that just?


I believe An Eye for 😩an Eye!!!

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Oct 12, 2019 23:55:58   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
rumitoid wrote:
Caution: graphic descriptions.

I do and I don't. In a way, no matter what a person has done, no matter how heinous an act by society, we are to look for his repentance, and show mercy. Rape, torture, and sexual abuse of a child. I have to be a heartless asshole not to want them dead in the worse possible way. Nothing can make up for what they have done, no punishment sufficient. But I am supposed to look to their salvation. Is that just?




Justice is all relevant. The punishment should fit the crime.

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Oct 13, 2019 00:22:41   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
rumitoid wrote:
Caution: graphic descriptions.

I do and I don't. In a way, no matter what a person has done, no matter how heinous an act by society, we are to look for his repentance, and show mercy. Rape, torture, and sexual abuse of a child. I have to be a heartless asshole not to want them dead in the worse possible way. Nothing can make up for what they have done, no punishment sufficient. But I am supposed to look to their salvation. Is that just?

"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."
Gandalf

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Oct 13, 2019 00:55:16   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
rumitoid wrote:
Caution: graphic descriptions.

I do and I don't. In a way, no matter what a person has done, no matter how heinous an act by society, we are to look for his repentance, and show mercy. Rape, torture, and sexual abuse of a child. I have to be a heartless asshole not to want them dead in the worse possible way. Nothing can make up for what they have done, no punishment sufficient. But I am supposed to look to their salvation. Is that just?


I have been working in this for a while... Since I read Tommy's thread on capital punishment...

As individuals we should look to their repentance and show mercy... Pray for those who have t***sgressed... Offer them the forgiveness that you seek for yourself... Love them as a brother...

As a society we should protect ourselves... Those who break the law deserve to pay the penalty...

Execution is not about punishment...It's about preventing future occurrences...

Punishment belongs to God alone...

Amen....

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Oct 13, 2019 00:59:19   #
Texas Truth Loc: Behind Enemy Lines
 
That is a very tough one. To stand by and Witness horror at its worst. To witness a child terribly abused and it's mental psyche to be destroyed for life. And it is to forgive any and all for their A*********ns and to allow God only to judge. There are some things I just can't see allowed to happen. If I was to destroy a human being because of what they would do to a small child I would be damned forever into the pit after God's judgement. In the Red Letter Bible the words of the Christ say it would be better for a person to put the largest millstone around his neck and dive into the deepest part of the ocean then to hurt one of these small children. Is the Christ suggesting that these people should be willfully destroy themselves then to hurt these children? Why would they want to do that when they can live the life of a demon and go against God's will in the first place? It is possible to permanently incapacitate someone from doing these things and not k**l them. It is studied in the ancient art of kung fu which I have done some and it makes sense. It is beyond our control to have much to do about evil living alongside the power of good. It is up to us to control which deity that our hearts and Minds will permanently bond to. Although the power of evil has the ability to change through an ambiguity. But you will very rarely see someone change from the power of good and switch over to totally evil. You opened up a big can of Eternal questions. It is said when the Christ returns he will reign for a thousand years of peace on Earth but after that Thousand Years Satan is going to be released again for a short time before the heavenly father has them destroyed for good. Supposedly totally wiping out the power of evil. It is sad to see so much evil in the world running around willy-nilly and we can't do anything about it without getting us in trouble with the Eternal Father. It's written we are not supposed to k**l. Would I risk myself to prevent evil from hurting a small child? The answer is yes but I would not permanently destroy another human being. But I would make sure he does not do it again. It involves to mame or crippled another human being. And I believe one would be judged by the Heavenly Father by doing so. So either way basically putting our souls on the line to be judged regardless of what we do. To allow it or to prevent it. Would the Lord give you an atta-boy or an eternal slap in the head. I believe we will find these answers when we cross over to the next life after this one. One thing is for sure I do not want to know what happens to evil when one crosses over and is brought to the Altar for judgement. I believe the Lord's judgment will be Swift and permanent.

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Oct 13, 2019 01:00:23   #
Seth
 
rumitoid wrote:
Caution: graphic descriptions.

I do and I don't. In a way, no matter what a person has done, no matter how heinous an act by society, we are to look for his repentance, and show mercy. Rape, torture, and sexual abuse of a child. I have to be a heartless asshole not to want them dead in the worse possible way. Nothing can make up for what they have done, no punishment sufficient. But I am supposed to look to their salvation. Is that just?


Certain people who are unrepentant for heinous crimes should be executed -- why should the taxpayer support them in prison when we don't want them back among the population anyway?

Rapists, child molesters, people who commit murder serially, in the course of committing crimes or to "set examples," such as MS-13 members, for instance...

I would make exceptions for certain crimes of passion, such as k*****g someone who has raped or murdered a loved one and is getting away with it "legally" due to some technicality, or a self defense k*****g.

I also believe that when someone initiates violence against an unwilling or otherwise innocent individual, that potential victim is justified in defending him(or her)self by any means necessary. If the attacker is mortally injured, "oh, well," like the saying goes: "If you mess around with the bandwagon, you have to expect to get hit with the horn."

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Oct 13, 2019 01:03:13   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Seth wrote:
Certain people who are unrepentant for heinous crimes should be executed -- why should the taxpayer support them in prison when we don't want them back among the population anyway?

Rapists, child molesters, people who commit murder serially, in the course of committing crimes or to "set examples," such as MS-13 members, for instance...

I would make exceptions for certain crimes of passion, such as k*****g someone who has raped or murdered a loved one and is getting away with it "legally" due to some technicality, or a self defense k*****g.

I also believe that when someone initiates violence against an unwilling or otherwise innocent individual, that potential victim is justified in defending him(or her)self by any means necessary. If the attacker is mortally injured, "oh, well," like the saying goes: "If you mess around with the bandwagon, you have to expect to get hit with the horn."
Certain people who are unrepentant for heinous cri... (show quote)


Well said

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Oct 13, 2019 01:21:07   #
Texas Truth Loc: Behind Enemy Lines
 
Something I would like to extend to my extended diatribe.. in the event of a sadistic Mass shooter in progress upon witnessing horrific Carnage I would drop that person like a bag of potatoes. I think most people with the courage to put a stop to the Mayhem by any means necessary. Be it a handgun or pool cue or a bird bath. I know death by bird bath doesn't sound very nice. It never is.

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Oct 13, 2019 01:57:11   #
DogLover99
 
rumitoid wrote:
Caution: graphic descriptions.

I do and I don't. In a way, no matter what a person has done, no matter how heinous an act by society, we are to look for his repentance, and show mercy. Rape, torture, and sexual abuse of a child. I have to be a heartless asshole not to want them dead in the worse possible way. Nothing can make up for what they have done, no punishment sufficient. But I am supposed to look to their salvation. Is that just?


That's the kind of attitude that gave us a generation of Snowflakes. Don't punish them and they will just do it again. You must make the punishment so bad that they will never want to do it again.

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Oct 13, 2019 02:46:09   #
Iliamna1
 
rumitoid wrote:
Caution: graphic descriptions.

I do and I don't. In a way, no matter what a person has done, no matter how heinous an act by society, we are to look for his repentance, and show mercy. Rape, torture, and sexual abuse of a child. I have to be a heartless asshole not to want them dead in the worse possible way. Nothing can make up for what they have done, no punishment sufficient. But I am supposed to look to their salvation. Is that just?


That is a question that has stymied the sages for many years. There are some notable murderers who, after their terrible crimes, allegedly accepted Christ but were still subsequently executed. Ted Bundy was such a one. There was another one, a woman in Texas, who had ax-murdered a man and allegedly became an exemplary prisoner who was still executed, despite many petitions for leniency. Does being genuinely sorry for what they did justify a more lenient sentence? Personally, in those two cases, I think the death sentences were fair and just. Mass murderers should go to the front of the execution line. It takes so long here in the USA for an execution to take place, there's plenty of time for the offender to repent, if they're going to.

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Oct 13, 2019 04:16:34   #
Ricktloml
 
rumitoid wrote:
Caution: graphic descriptions.

I do and I don't. In a way, no matter what a person has done, no matter how heinous an act by society, we are to look for his repentance, and show mercy. Rape, torture, and sexual abuse of a child. I have to be a heartless asshole not to want them dead in the worse possible way. Nothing can make up for what they have done, no punishment sufficient. But I am supposed to look to their salvation. Is that just?


YOU don't have to worry about their salvation. God, Himself said to send these kinds of criminals to Him and He would handle everything. The Bible tells us we not fear anyone who can k**l the body, but we had better fear Almighty God who can k**l the soul.

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Oct 13, 2019 04:33:04   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
That is a question that has stymied the sages for many years. There are some notable murderers who, after their terrible crimes, allegedly accepted Christ but were still subsequently executed. Ted Bundy was such a one. There was another one, a woman in Texas, who had ax-murdered a man and allegedly became an exemplary prisoner who was still executed, despite many petitions for leniency. Does being genuinely sorry for what they did justify a more lenient sentence? Personally, in those two cases, I think the death sentences were fair and just. Mass murderers should go to the front of the execution line. It takes so long here in the USA for an execution to take place, there's plenty of time for the offender to repent, if they're going to.
That is a question that has stymied the sages for ... (show quote)


Good points...

Ultimately it will be between them and God...

May they find redemption in His eyes...Amen...

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Oct 13, 2019 06:19:20   #
billy a Loc: South Florida
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I have been working in this for a while... Since I read Tommy's thread on capital punishment...

As individuals we should look to their repentance and show mercy... Pray for those who have t***sgressed... Offer them the forgiveness that you seek for yourself... Love them as a brother...

As a society we should protect ourselves... Those who break the law deserve to pay the penalty...

Execution is not about punishment...It's about preventing future occurrences...

Punishment belongs to God alone...

Amen....
I have been working in this for a while... Since I... (show quote)


Canuck,your comment on prevention says it all.
This guy who just came forward confessing to NINETY-THREE murders over his lifetime caused immeasurable pain and suffering.
Imagine if he were caught at the first,or fourth...and executed. NINETY people wouldn't have been raped,tortured and k**led.
If you catch one,and are certain of his/her guilt, put them down.
And to those who cry "HUMANITY", think of the ninety that would have lived. NINETY !

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Oct 13, 2019 06:48:39   #
Kevyn
 
proud republican wrote:
I believe An Eye for 😩an Eye!!!


Our constitution doesn’t, it precludes cruel and unusual punishment for even the most heinous crimes. If you prefer an eye for an eye justice system head to Saudi Arabia.

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