Of this is true: WOW! (Page 2): No problem.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

No... I asked Woodguru for a link and information on another thread, and Peter decided to chide me for not simply going to Google... My "exactly" was in reference to that...

Apologies for the confusion

No problem.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

JFlorio wrote:

Breaking. Rumor has it a verified email “chain” between Brennan and Comey proves both Comey and Brennan admit that they didn’t verify the Russian Dossier which they used to get a FISA Warrant. Now I know if this is true it won’t bother the libs on OPP, even though it’s a premeditated crime and proves what many have known all along. This would be corruption on an unseen level.

I thought everybody knew that for over a year. It says verified on it, but nobody really did it. Steele is like DUH, Comey told Trump it wasn't and can't be verified. That's why I don't understand why the FISA judges aren't pissed they used it 4 times.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:

I thought everybody knew that for over a year. It says verified on it, but nobody really did it. Steele is like DUH, Comey told Trump it wasn't and can't be verified. That's why I don't understand why the FISA judges aren't pissed they used it 4 times.

They’re toadies. 99% of all FISA warrants are approved. Basically a rubber stamp. Judge is probably worried about looking stupid because he didn’t ask enough questions. Just a rubber stamp

emarine

JFlorio wrote:

And credibility goes to full disclosure dipstick. You know crap except what you cut and paste. Go back to school.

Who's the "dipstick" J buddy... your title... Of this is true: WOW!... you're unsure of yourself … seems you understand little of what you speculate ….

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

emarine wrote:

Who's the "dipstick" J buddy... your title... Of this is true: WOW!... you're unsure of yourself … seems you understand little of what you speculate ….

Typo. Good catch. Feel better?

emarine

JFlorio wrote:

Typo. Good catch. Feel better?

Na your subject matter is what you don't understand... research FISA warrant... you're on your own now... I already sent a basic link on FISA... maybe you will actually read it...

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

emarine wrote:

Na your subject matter is what you don't understand... research FISA warrant... you're on your own now... I already sent a basic link on FISA... maybe you will actually read it...

I did read it. So what? Already knew that. Comey and Brennan lies to a FISA Judge apparently. We shall see.

emarine

JFlorio wrote:

I did read it. So what? Already knew that. Comey and Brennan lies to a FISA Judge apparently. We shall see.

Yes we shall... intel doesn't work the same as civil or criminal courts do for warrants... you're all caught up in trumps deep state BS again …

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

emarine wrote:

Na your subject matter is what you don't understand... research FISA warrant... you're on your own now... I already sent a basic link on FISA... maybe you will actually read it...

The FBI’s internal guidelines for obtaining secret surveillance warrants against Americans say that “only documented and verified information” may be used in warrant applications. In his testimony before congress, Comey admitted that the information in the Steele dossier was not verified. He ran with it anyway and, through lies and innuendo, secured the FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page. It gets worse.

The failures of Comey’s remarkably turbulent and short tenure as FBI director were on display again when he was interviewed in a closed-door session by two House committees. Republican lawmakers were aghast at his sudden lack of recollection of key events. He didn’t seem to know that his own FBI was using No. 4 Justice Department official Bruce Ohr as a conduit to keep collecting intelligence from Christopher Steele after the British intel operative was fired by the bureau for leaking and lying. In fact, Comey didn’t seem to remember knowing that Steele had been terminated, according to sources in the room.

“His memory was so bad I feared he might not remember how to get out of the room after the interview,” one lawmaker quipped. Lamented another: “It was like he suddenly developed dementia or Alzheimer’s, after conveniently remembering enough facts to sell his book.”

The towering ex-FBI boss confessed that the FBI had not corroborated much of the Steele dossier before it was submitted as evidence to a secret court to support a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant to spy on Trump campaign adviser Carter Page in the final weeks of the e******n.

And Comey admitted much of the dossier remained uncorroborated more than six months later when he was fired by President Trump.

Comey now has confirmed what Republican lawmakers like Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) and Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) have warned about for months – that the FBI used an unverified dossier, paid for by p**********l candidate Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party as political opposition research, to justify spying on the duly nominated GOP candidate for president just weeks before E******n Day.

But that’s not the only reason we have to lament Comey’s tenure as FBI chief. Let’s go to the videotape to review:

First, the Justice Department inspector general found that Comey wrongly usurped the powers of the attorney general when he chose to make his own decision not to prosecute Hillary Clinton in the classified email investigation and that he violated department policies by announcing the re-opening and the closing of the Clinton email case, the latter just days before E******n Day.

That finding supported Democrats’ worst fears, that Comey may have cost their candidate the e******n. And it validated the primary reason the Trump administration fired Comey as FBI director a few months later.

Second, let’s remember that Comey was the man who famously testified in 2016 that FBI agents don’t “give a hoot about politics” when they investigate.

A year later, we learned that the very FBI employees Comey entrusted to lead the Clinton and Trump investigations – Peter Strzok and Lisa Page – obsessed over the 2016 e******n and even discussed in government text messages using their official powers to “stop” Trump from becoming president. To add to the concerns, the two were having an affair in the middle of a counterintelligence probe, which in and of itself is a compromise.

Third, Comey’s investigative team (in the form of the Steele dossier) and his general counsel James Baker (in the form of evidence from a Democratic Party lawyer) accepted politically tainted evidence to further the probe of Trump.

Finally, Comey has insisted he didn’t condone leaking inside the FBI. Yet, on his watch, top deputy Andrew McCabe was caught leaking to the news media and later fired for lying about it. Comey denies he knew about that leak but acknowledges that he himself orchestrated a separate leak through a friend after his own firing.

Likewise, Comey’s t***smission of memos to his lawyers about classified conversations he had with Trump are troubling. Those forced the government to send “scrub teams” to recover any classified information that may have been t***smitted, according to multiple sources briefed on the operation.

Inside the FBI, ignorance is not a substitute for competence. Nor is the expression of moral superiority a substitute for lawfulness. And unverified dossiers are not an acceptable form of verified evidence in a FISA submission.

James Comey’s performance is a not-so-subtle reminder of the ignominy accrued on his watch as the FBI leader.

To adapt the figure of speech in Comey’s own tweet, there is growing evidence that the FBI may have been run by a team of dull butter-knives at a moment in history when razor-sharp leadership was needed.

It is a felony to lie or deceive the FISA court in an effort to obtain a warrant.

I know of several investigative journalists who are very credible for their efforts to dig up the facts -- Catherine Herridge, Sharyl Atkisson, and John Solomon come to mind.

In fact, Atkisson was so effective in her investigations, that operatives in Obama admin's intelligence agencies hacked her computer and planted monitoring software. Atkisson suspected something was fishy and brought in forensics intelligence specialists who found a long term monitoring effort, government spyware with government IP addresses. This spyware monitored her keystrokes, attempted go through her computer to access CBS computers - the government hackers even planted classified documents in Atkisson's computer for the purpose of implicating her in the felony of stealing them.

It is striking that you can brush this aside like an annoying insect, that you can foolishly deny that the greatest political scandal in American history was massive and that the Obama admin's FBI and Intel leadership, the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and a foreign intel agent were solely responsible for all of it.

.

John Brennan's fingerprints are also all over this scandal,

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Blade_Runner wrote:

The FBI’s internal guidelines for obtaining secret surveillance warrants against Americans say that “only documented and verified information” may be used in warrant applications. In his testimony before congress, Comey admitted that the information in the Steele dossier was not verified. He ran with it anyway and, through lies and innuendo, secured the FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page. It gets worse.

The failures of Comey’s remarkably turbulent and short tenure as FBI director were on display again when he was interviewed in a closed-door session by two House committees. Republican lawmakers were aghast at his sudden lack of recollection of key events. He didn’t seem to know that his own FBI was using No. 4 Justice Department official Bruce Ohr as a conduit to keep collecting intelligence from Christopher Steele after the British intel operative was fired by the bureau for leaking and lying. In fact, Comey didn’t seem to remember knowing that Steele had been terminated, according to sources in the room.

“His memory was so bad I feared he might not remember how to get out of the room after the interview,” one lawmaker quipped. Lamented another: “It was like he suddenly developed dementia or Alzheimer’s, after conveniently remembering enough facts to sell his book.”

The towering ex-FBI boss confessed that the FBI had not corroborated much of the Steele dossier before it was submitted as evidence to a secret court to support a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant to spy on Trump campaign adviser Carter Page in the final weeks of the e******n.

And Comey admitted much of the dossier remained uncorroborated more than six months later when he was fired by President Trump.

Comey now has confirmed what Republican lawmakers like Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) and Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) have warned about for months – that the FBI used an unverified dossier, paid for by p**********l candidate Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party as political opposition research, to justify spying on the duly nominated GOP candidate for president just weeks before E******n Day.

But that’s not the only reason we have to lament Comey’s tenure as FBI chief. Let’s go to the videotape to review:

First, the Justice Department inspector general found that Comey wrongly usurped the powers of the attorney general when he chose to make his own decision not to prosecute Hillary Clinton in the classified email investigation and that he violated department policies by announcing the re-opening and the closing of the Clinton email case, the latter just days before E******n Day.

That finding supported Democrats’ worst fears, that Comey may have cost their candidate the e******n. And it validated the primary reason the Trump administration fired Comey as FBI director a few months later.

Second, let’s remember that Comey was the man who famously testified in 2016 that FBI agents don’t “give a hoot about politics” when they investigate.

A year later, we learned that the very FBI employees Comey entrusted to lead the Clinton and Trump investigations – Peter Strzok and Lisa Page – obsessed over the 2016 e******n and even discussed in government text messages using their official powers to “stop” Trump from becoming president. To add to the concerns, the two were having an affair in the middle of a counterintelligence probe, which in and of itself is a compromise.

Third, Comey’s investigative team (in the form of the Steele dossier) and his general counsel James Baker (in the form of evidence from a Democratic Party lawyer) accepted politically tainted evidence to further the probe of Trump.

Finally, Comey has insisted he didn’t condone leaking inside the FBI. Yet, on his watch, top deputy Andrew McCabe was caught leaking to the news media and later fired for lying about it. Comey denies he knew about that leak but acknowledges that he himself orchestrated a separate leak through a friend after his own firing.

Likewise, Comey’s t***smission of memos to his lawyers about classified conversations he had with Trump are troubling. Those forced the government to send “scrub teams” to recover any classified information that may have been t***smitted, according to multiple sources briefed on the operation.

Inside the FBI, ignorance is not a substitute for competence. Nor is the expression of moral superiority a substitute for lawfulness. And unverified dossiers are not an acceptable form of verified evidence in a FISA submission.

James Comey’s performance is a not-so-subtle reminder of the ignominy accrued on his watch as the FBI leader.

To adapt the figure of speech in Comey’s own tweet, there is growing evidence that the FBI may have been run by a team of dull butter-knives at a moment in history when razor-sharp leadership was needed.

It is a felony to lie or deceive the FISA court in an effort to obtain a warrant.

I know of several investigative journalists who are very credible for their efforts to dig up the facts -- Catherine Herridge, Sharyl Atkisson, and John Solomon come to mind.

In fact, Atkisson was so effective in her investigations, that operatives in Obama admin's intelligence agencies hacked her computer and planted monitoring software. Atkisson suspected something was fishy and brought in forensics intelligence specialists who found a long term monitoring effort, government spyware with government IP addresses. This spyware monitored her keystrokes, attempted go through her computer to access CBS computers - the government hackers even planted classified documents in Atkisson's computer for the purpose of implicating her in the felony of stealing them.

It is striking that you can brush this aside like an annoying insect, that you can foolishly deny that the greatest political scandal in American history was massive and that the Obama admin's FBI and Intel leadership, the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and a foreign intel agent were solely responsible for all of it.

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The FBI’s internal guidelines for obtaining secret... (show quote)

All roads lead back to Comey!

emarine

Blade_Runner wrote:

The FBI’s internal guidelines for obtaining secret surveillance warrants against Americans say that “only documented and verified information” may be used in warrant applications. In his testimony before congress, Comey admitted that the information in the Steele dossier was not verified. He ran with it anyway and, through lies and innuendo, secured the FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page. It gets worse.

The failures of Comey’s remarkably turbulent and short tenure as FBI director were on display again when he was interviewed in a closed-door session by two House committees. Republican lawmakers were aghast at his sudden lack of recollection of key events. He didn’t seem to know that his own FBI was using No. 4 Justice Department official Bruce Ohr as a conduit to keep collecting intelligence from Christopher Steele after the British intel operative was fired by the bureau for leaking and lying. In fact, Comey didn’t seem to remember knowing that Steele had been terminated, according to sources in the room.

“His memory was so bad I feared he might not remember how to get out of the room after the interview,” one lawmaker quipped. Lamented another: “It was like he suddenly developed dementia or Alzheimer’s, after conveniently remembering enough facts to sell his book.”

The towering ex-FBI boss confessed that the FBI had not corroborated much of the Steele dossier before it was submitted as evidence to a secret court to support a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant to spy on Trump campaign adviser Carter Page in the final weeks of the e******n.

And Comey admitted much of the dossier remained uncorroborated more than six months later when he was fired by President Trump.

Comey now has confirmed what Republican lawmakers like Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) and Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) have warned about for months – that the FBI used an unverified dossier, paid for by p**********l candidate Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party as political opposition research, to justify spying on the duly nominated GOP candidate for president just weeks before E******n Day.

But that’s not the only reason we have to lament Comey’s tenure as FBI chief. Let’s go to the videotape to review:

First, the Justice Department inspector general found that Comey wrongly usurped the powers of the attorney general when he chose to make his own decision not to prosecute Hillary Clinton in the classified email investigation and that he violated department policies by announcing the re-opening and the closing of the Clinton email case, the latter just days before E******n Day.

That finding supported Democrats’ worst fears, that Comey may have cost their candidate the e******n. And it validated the primary reason the Trump administration fired Comey as FBI director a few months later.

Second, let’s remember that Comey was the man who famously testified in 2016 that FBI agents don’t “give a hoot about politics” when they investigate.

A year later, we learned that the very FBI employees Comey entrusted to lead the Clinton and Trump investigations – Peter Strzok and Lisa Page – obsessed over the 2016 e******n and even discussed in government text messages using their official powers to “stop” Trump from becoming president. To add to the concerns, the two were having an affair in the middle of a counterintelligence probe, which in and of itself is a compromise.

Third, Comey’s investigative team (in the form of the Steele dossier) and his general counsel James Baker (in the form of evidence from a Democratic Party lawyer) accepted politically tainted evidence to further the probe of Trump.

Finally, Comey has insisted he didn’t condone leaking inside the FBI. Yet, on his watch, top deputy Andrew McCabe was caught leaking to the news media and later fired for lying about it. Comey denies he knew about that leak but acknowledges that he himself orchestrated a separate leak through a friend after his own firing.

Likewise, Comey’s t***smission of memos to his lawyers about classified conversations he had with Trump are troubling. Those forced the government to send “scrub teams” to recover any classified information that may have been t***smitted, according to multiple sources briefed on the operation.

Inside the FBI, ignorance is not a substitute for competence. Nor is the expression of moral superiority a substitute for lawfulness. And unverified dossiers are not an acceptable form of verified evidence in a FISA submission.

James Comey’s performance is a not-so-subtle reminder of the ignominy accrued on his watch as the FBI leader.

To adapt the figure of speech in Comey’s own tweet, there is growing evidence that the FBI may have been run by a team of dull butter-knives at a moment in history when razor-sharp leadership was needed.

It is a felony to lie or deceive the FISA court in an effort to obtain a warrant.

I know of several investigative journalists who are very credible for their efforts to dig up the facts -- Catherine Herridge, Sharyl Atkisson, and John Solomon come to mind.

In fact, Atkisson was so effective in her investigations, that operatives in Obama admin's intelligence agencies hacked her computer and planted monitoring software. Atkisson suspected something was fishy and brought in forensics intelligence specialists who found a long term monitoring effort, government spyware with government IP addresses. This spyware monitored her keystrokes, attempted go through her computer to access CBS computers - the government hackers even planted classified documents in Atkisson's computer for the purpose of implicating her in the felony of stealing them.

It is striking that you can brush this aside like an annoying insect, that you can foolishly deny that the greatest political scandal in American history was massive and that the Obama admin's FBI and Intel leadership, the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and a foreign intel agent were solely responsible for all of it.

.

The FBI’s internal guidelines for obtaining secret... (show quote)

Long conspiracy story... at the time of applying for FISA the intel evidence has to be credible, the purpose of the warrant is to allow surveillance to prove it...

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Excellent research. He won’t care. It doesn’t support his ideology.

Blade_Runner wrote:

The FBI’s internal guidelines for obtaining secret surveillance warrants against Americans say that “only documented and verified information” may be used in warrant applications. In his testimony before congress, Comey admitted that the information in the Steele dossier was not verified. He ran with it anyway and, through lies and innuendo, secured the FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page. It gets worse.

The failures of Comey’s remarkably turbulent and short tenure as FBI director were on display again when he was interviewed in a closed-door session by two House committees. Republican lawmakers were aghast at his sudden lack of recollection of key events. He didn’t seem to know that his own FBI was using No. 4 Justice Department official Bruce Ohr as a conduit to keep collecting intelligence from Christopher Steele after the British intel operative was fired by the bureau for leaking and lying. In fact, Comey didn’t seem to remember knowing that Steele had been terminated, according to sources in the room.

“His memory was so bad I feared he might not remember how to get out of the room after the interview,” one lawmaker quipped. Lamented another: “It was like he suddenly developed dementia or Alzheimer’s, after conveniently remembering enough facts to sell his book.”

The towering ex-FBI boss confessed that the FBI had not corroborated much of the Steele dossier before it was submitted as evidence to a secret court to support a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant to spy on Trump campaign adviser Carter Page in the final weeks of the e******n.

And Comey admitted much of the dossier remained uncorroborated more than six months later when he was fired by President Trump.

Comey now has confirmed what Republican lawmakers like Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) and Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) have warned about for months – that the FBI used an unverified dossier, paid for by p**********l candidate Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party as political opposition research, to justify spying on the duly nominated GOP candidate for president just weeks before E******n Day.

But that’s not the only reason we have to lament Comey’s tenure as FBI chief. Let’s go to the videotape to review:

First, the Justice Department inspector general found that Comey wrongly usurped the powers of the attorney general when he chose to make his own decision not to prosecute Hillary Clinton in the classified email investigation and that he violated department policies by announcing the re-opening and the closing of the Clinton email case, the latter just days before E******n Day.

That finding supported Democrats’ worst fears, that Comey may have cost their candidate the e******n. And it validated the primary reason the Trump administration fired Comey as FBI director a few months later.

Second, let’s remember that Comey was the man who famously testified in 2016 that FBI agents don’t “give a hoot about politics” when they investigate.

A year later, we learned that the very FBI employees Comey entrusted to lead the Clinton and Trump investigations – Peter Strzok and Lisa Page – obsessed over the 2016 e******n and even discussed in government text messages using their official powers to “stop” Trump from becoming president. To add to the concerns, the two were having an affair in the middle of a counterintelligence probe, which in and of itself is a compromise.

Third, Comey’s investigative team (in the form of the Steele dossier) and his general counsel James Baker (in the form of evidence from a Democratic Party lawyer) accepted politically tainted evidence to further the probe of Trump.

Finally, Comey has insisted he didn’t condone leaking inside the FBI. Yet, on his watch, top deputy Andrew McCabe was caught leaking to the news media and later fired for lying about it. Comey denies he knew about that leak but acknowledges that he himself orchestrated a separate leak through a friend after his own firing.

Likewise, Comey’s t***smission of memos to his lawyers about classified conversations he had with Trump are troubling. Those forced the government to send “scrub teams” to recover any classified information that may have been t***smitted, according to multiple sources briefed on the operation.

Inside the FBI, ignorance is not a substitute for competence. Nor is the expression of moral superiority a substitute for lawfulness. And unverified dossiers are not an acceptable form of verified evidence in a FISA submission.

James Comey’s performance is a not-so-subtle reminder of the ignominy accrued on his watch as the FBI leader.

To adapt the figure of speech in Comey’s own tweet, there is growing evidence that the FBI may have been run by a team of dull butter-knives at a moment in history when razor-sharp leadership was needed.

It is a felony to lie or deceive the FISA court in an effort to obtain a warrant.

I know of several investigative journalists who are very credible for their efforts to dig up the facts -- Catherine Herridge, Sharyl Atkisson, and John Solomon come to mind.

In fact, Atkisson was so effective in her investigations, that operatives in Obama admin's intelligence agencies hacked her computer and planted monitoring software. Atkisson suspected something was fishy and brought in forensics intelligence specialists who found a long term monitoring effort, government spyware with government IP addresses. This spyware monitored her keystrokes, attempted go through her computer to access CBS computers - the government hackers even planted classified documents in Atkisson's computer for the purpose of implicating her in the felony of stealing them.

It is striking that you can brush this aside like an annoying insect, that you can foolishly deny that the greatest political scandal in American history was massive and that the Obama admin's FBI and Intel leadership, the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and a foreign intel agent were solely responsible for all of it.

.

The FBI’s internal guidelines for obtaining secret... (show quote)

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

emarine wrote:

Long conspiracy story... at the time of applying for FISA the intel evidence has to be credible, the purpose of the warrant is to allow surveillance to prove it...

The point is they lied to get the Warrant. Which is just fine with liberals.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

emarine wrote:

Long conspiracy story... at the time of applying for FISA the intel evidence has to be credible, the purpose of the warrant is to allow surveillance to prove it...

A FISA warrant is necessary to prove its validity????? That is patently false. Hell of an example of circular reasoning.

The evidence to obtain a FISA warrant must must be based on actionable intelligence and the intelligence must be credible and verifiable BEFORE the actions are pursued.

The political scandal in question was definitely a conspiracy, a massive covert conspiracy to destroy a political opponent and overturn a p**********l e******n. This scandal IS NOT a conspiracy theory.

emarine

JFlorio wrote:

The point is they lied to get the Warrant. Which is just fine with liberals.

You trump serfs call it a lie... reality calls it probable cause... your trump conspiracy theories are a waist of time & taxpayers money... I bet there are 100's of FISA warrants involving the trump administration now with real probable cause... trumps not smart enough to shut his mouth admitting guilt so he obstructs justice …