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Oct 7, 2019 17:48:31   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
Follow the link this is a very interesting article..

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/12082019/antarctica-c*****e-c****e-ocean-wind-ice-melting-glaciers-global-warming

G****l W*****g Is Changing the Winds Off Antarctica, Driving Ice Melt
A new study connects the dots between c*****e c****e and faster melting of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, which has consequences for sea level rise.

G****l w*****g is driving a shift in regional winds around the edges of Antarctica, and that's speeding up the meltdown of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, new research shows.

Westerly winds that enable warmer ocean water to creep beneath the floating edge of the ice sheet have become more prevalent over the past 100 years, scientists found in a new study, published Monday in the scientific journal Nature Geoscience.

Paul Holland, a researcher with the British Antarctic Survey and lead author of the study, explained that the winds are changing because g****l w*****g is heating the tropics faster than Antarctica and the surrounding Southern Ocean. Contrasts between temperatures over different parts of the Earth are the main driver of wind. In this case, the increasing temperature differential from the equator to Antarctica is strengthening the westerly winds that circle around the frozen continent.

The way the westerly winds push the surface water allows warmer water from below to reach under the ice shelves, accelerating ice loss from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet.
Follow the link this is a very interesting article... (show quote)


These studies are not field studies.I have read the abstract of Holland's study. It wasn't a field study. For instance the NASA conclusions were based on satellite images which showed ice extending. The so called study concluding warm western winds were spreading the ice farther out and thinning it, based on looking for an explanation which kept the core "fact" that g****l w*****g was reducing Antarctic ice. But more than one field study to confirm the modeling discovered that the ice was thickening and not just expanding near the surface. I have posted links to the studies in previous threads but cannot do so now until I get my internet access problem resolved. Perhaps someone who is interested enough can search for the studies or back over my posts. One of the studies was out of Australia and was an underwater study of the ice sheet. I wish I could remember the top scientists name. He is a well known scientist who has done NASA research on numerous occasions.
He expected to confirm g****l w*****g but discovered results which put the narrative in question. Another involved drilling a hole in the ice.

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Oct 7, 2019 17:52:29   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
that comment is so old and so debunked, I will not bother to post the correction one more time.. that seems pointless..


Which 2 storms are you referring to. Every single hurricane in the last several years has been hyped as being unprecedented in strength. Yet not a single one has touched the mainland as a category 5, and most not even a 3. And we have seen fewer hurricanes in the past decade than for most decades in the 20th century.

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Oct 7, 2019 17:55:59   #
Cuda2020
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Slow and steady wins the race?


As there are more and more droughts, fires, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, devasted forests, you'll have to tell me what you've won.

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Oct 7, 2019 18:03:11   #
Cuda2020
 
JoyV wrote:
Which 2 storms are you referring to. Every single hurricane in the last several years has been hyped as being unprecedented in strength. Yet not a single one has touched the mainland as a category 5, and most not even a 3. And we have seen fewer hurricanes in the past decade than for most decades in the 20th century.


Dorian struck the northern Bahamas as a Category 5 hurricane, and mandatory evacuations were ordered along the southeastern coast of the United States.
As of 5 a.m. EDT Monday, the National Hurricane Center said Dorian was a Category 5 storm battering the Bahamas.
The hurricane center said on Sunday that there were wind gusts exceeding 220 miles an hour — three times the wind speed to qualify as a hurricane. Officials said the storm was the strongest on record in the Bahamas and one of the most intense in the Atlantic in the last century. Hurricane-force winds extend 45 miles outward from the center of the storm, the center said, with tropical storm-force winds as much as 140 miles outward.

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Oct 7, 2019 18:30:24   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Dorian struck the northern Bahamas as a Category 5 hurricane, and mandatory evacuations were ordered along the southeastern coast of the United States.
As of 5 a.m. EDT Monday, the National Hurricane Center said Dorian was a Category 5 storm battering the Bahamas.
The hurricane center said on Sunday that there were wind gusts exceeding 220 miles an hour — three times the wind speed to qualify as a hurricane. Officials said the storm was the strongest on record in the Bahamas and one of the most intense in the Atlantic in the last century. Hurricane-force winds extend 45 miles outward from the center of the storm, the center said, with tropical storm-force winds as much as 140 miles outward.
Dorian struck the northern Bahamas as a Category 5... (show quote)


When did the Bahamas become the mainland?

Now that is c*****e c****e

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Oct 7, 2019 19:21:56   #
Proudemocrat Loc: To your left.
 
permafrost wrote:
http://www.globalcoral.org/LONG TERM ARCTIC ICE TRENDS AND G****L W*****G.1.pdf


LONG TERM ARCTIC ICE TRENDS AND G****L W*****G
A comment by Tom Goreau
January 8 2010
Those who seek to deny g****l w*****g constantly use t***sparently obvious
tricks, selecting data from a single time, a single place, or both, to deny the larger
long-term global patterns. This is easily done as climate is constantly fluctuating,
so picking out the mean patterns and trends requires that one integrates the data
over the largest time and space scales possible. So if one dishonestly wants to
misrepresent the larger patterns, one can always find a particular place at a
particular time that does not agree with the all the rest averaged together. This is
sometimes referred to as the “It’s a cold day in Wagga Wagga” approach, and is
repeatedly used by the c*****e c****e deniers to fool people who haven’t looked
at the data themselves. The changes in Arctic Ice are no exception!
Good data mapping the entire Arctic Ice Cap from space satellites is fairly recent,
only since 1979, but the trends are absolutely clear:
http://www.globalcoral.org/LONG TERM ARCTIC ICE TR... (show quote)


It takes more than a few working neurons firing in your brain to comprehend. It is intuitively obvious to the most casual observer, that it isn't the case for most Republicans now days. What makes it even worse, they refuse to listen to the experts. On top of that, I doubt any have enough compassion for the next generation even if they have children and grandchildren to even care one way or the other.

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Oct 7, 2019 20:05:48   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Has a deity blessed our blog?

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Oct 7, 2019 20:26:59   #
Proudemocrat Loc: To your left.
 
:)

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Oct 7, 2019 21:04:01   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Proudemocrat wrote:
It takes more than a few working neurons firing in your brain to comprehend. It is intuitively obvious to the most casual observer, that it isn't the case for most Republicans now days. What makes it even worse, they refuse to listen to the experts. On top of that, I doubt any have enough compassion for the next generation even if they have children and grandchildren to even care one way or the other.


Even if anthropogenic g****l w*****g was a fact, another inconvenient fact is that the US is only responsible for a small fraction of it. China and India, the two nations responsible for most of the pollution today, are doing absolutely nothing to clean up their act. The US could revert to a Neolithic society and it would not make much difference. The US, for instance, produces less than 5% of the coal caused pollution in the world, yet you brainless Liberals want to destroy the coal industry and all the secondary and tertiary industries that have grown up around it, (costing tens of thousands of jobs and billions of dollars). You offer no workable replacement for coal energy. Notice I said workable. That means feasible NOW.
You somehow seem to think that destroying the f****l f**l industry in this country will make any difference, when the main polluters are thumbing their noses at clean energy. Liberals are not known for common sense. As a matter of fact, most Liberals' acquaintance with reality is quite tenuous and h*****g by a gossamer thread. Every time one of you posts nonsense, that thread frays a little more.

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Oct 7, 2019 21:35:08   #
Seth
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Even if anthropogenic g****l w*****g was a fact, another inconvenient fact is that the US is only responsible for a small fraction of it. China and India, the two nations responsible for most of the pollution today, are doing absolutely nothing to clean up their act. The US could revert to a Neolithic society and it would not make much difference. The US, for instance, produces less than 5% of the coal caused pollution in the world, yet you brainless Liberals want to destroy the coal industry and all the secondary and tertiary industries that have grown up around it, (costing tens of thousands of jobs and billions of dollars). You offer no workable replacement for coal energy. Notice I said workable. That means feasible NOW.
You somehow seem to think that destroying the f****l f**l industry in this country will make any difference, when the main polluters are thumbing their noses at clean energy. Liberals are not known for common sense. As a matter of fact, most Liberals' acquaintance with reality is quite tenuous and h*****g by a gossamer thread. Every time one of you posts nonsense, that thread frays a little more.
Even if anthropogenic g****l w*****g was a fact, a... (show quote)


Right F***ing On!

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Oct 7, 2019 21:43:52   #
Proudemocrat Loc: To your left.
 
If g****l w*****g is correct, and all the scientists say it is, it won't care which country did this or that it will destroy all of the earth as we know it.

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Oct 7, 2019 21:46:52   #
Seth
 
Proudemocrat wrote:
If g****l w*****g is correct, and all the scientists say it is, it won't care which country did this or that it will destroy all of the earth as we know it.


"All the scientists?"

Does that mean all those hundreds who refute the anthropogenic c*****e c****e h**x are "non-scientists?"

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Oct 7, 2019 21:47:52   #
Proudemocrat Loc: To your left.
 
Probably

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Oct 7, 2019 21:57:57   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Seth wrote:
"All the scientists?"

Does that mean all those hundreds who refute the anthropogenic c*****e c****e h**x are "non-scientists?"


All but 300,000 of them! And many more who keep quiet to have job!

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Oct 7, 2019 22:21:23   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Even if anthropogenic g****l w*****g was a fact, another inconvenient fact is that the US is only responsible for a small fraction of it. China and India, the two nations responsible for most of the pollution today, are doing absolutely nothing to clean up their act. The US could revert to a Neolithic society and it would not make much difference. The US, for instance, produces less than 5% of the coal caused pollution in the world, yet you brainless Liberals want to destroy the coal industry and all the secondary and tertiary industries that have grown up around it, (costing tens of thousands of jobs and billions of dollars). You offer no workable replacement for coal energy. Notice I said workable. That means feasible NOW.
You somehow seem to think that destroying the f****l f**l industry in this country will make any difference, when the main polluters are thumbing their noses at clean energy. Liberals are not known for common sense. As a matter of fact, most Liberals' acquaintance with reality is quite tenuous and h*****g by a gossamer thread. Every time one of you posts nonsense, that thread frays a little more.
Even if anthropogenic g****l w*****g was a fact, a... (show quote)


Excellent post!

It seems to me that most of the so-called proof of AGW has been put forth by the modeleers, none of whom have it right. The interaction of the sun with the cloud structures and water vapors has far, far more influence on the weather than CO2 does. In fact CO2 is rather a negligible factor in the real world of climate. The rest is BS.

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