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Oct 4, 2019 08:31:38   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
It seemed as though each time Vice President visited China, or talked with Hu Jintao, H****r benefited. One example comes to mind; in 2013, the H****r B***n was part of an official U.S. delegation to China. Ten days later, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC., a private equity firm managed by H****r, inked a $1 billion deal with the Bank of China. The deal was eventually increased to $1.5 billion. H****r’s deals with China would go on to have serious national security implications for the United States. One such deal was with the automotive subsidiary of Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), a major Chinese military contractor accused of frequently stealing U.S. military technology.

If you recall, it was during 2013 and 2014, China embarked on an aggressive air and island campaign to dominate the South China Sea, much to the dismay of Japan and other countries in the region. When Vice President Joe Biden visited the country in 2013, he emphasized trade between the U.S. and China and did not focus on the South China Sea. Secretary of State John Kerry did the same in 2014. In other words they were "soft" on China's expansion. Meantime, Biden's son H****r and Kerry's stepson Chris Heinz carried out massive business deals with Chinese officials and the state-owned Bank of China. Worse, H****r B***n and Chris Heinz even invested in a Chinese nuclear company under FBI investigation. The Biden and Kerry families and friends pocketed major cash from companies connected to the Chinese government.

There is an excellent book entitled Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends that goes into detail with researchable references. Highly reckoned!

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Oct 4, 2019 08:37:28   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
You just ruined Kevyn's day!

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Oct 4, 2019 08:44:37   #
Lonewolf
 
Pennylynn wrote:
It seemed as though each time Vice President visited China, or talked with Hu Jintao, H****r benefited. One example comes to mind; in 2013, the H****r B***n was part of an official U.S. delegation to China. Ten days later, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC., a private equity firm managed by H****r, inked a $1 billion deal with the Bank of China. The deal was eventually increased to $1.5 billion. H****r’s deals with China would go on to have serious national security implications for the United States. One such deal was with the automotive subsidiary of Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), a major Chinese military contractor accused of frequently stealing U.S. military technology.

If you recall, it was during 2013 and 2014, China embarked on an aggressive air and island campaign to dominate the South China Sea, much to the dismay of Japan and other countries in the region. When Vice President Joe Biden visited the country in 2013, he emphasized trade between the U.S. and China and did not focus on the South China Sea. Secretary of State John Kerry did the same in 2014. In other words they were "soft" on China's expansion. Meantime, Biden's son H****r and Kerry's stepson Chris Heinz carried out massive business deals with Chinese officials and the state-owned Bank of China. Worse, H****r B***n and Chris Heinz even invested in a Chinese nuclear company under FBI investigation. The Biden and Kerry families and friends pocketed major cash from companies connected to the Chinese government.

There is an excellent book entitled Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends that goes into detail with researchable references. Highly reckoned!
It seemed as though each time Vice President visit... (show quote)


Trump asking is another impeachable offence maybe we should investigate ivanka after she revived 39 patents in China

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Oct 4, 2019 08:51:27   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Trump asking is another impeachable offence maybe we should investigate ivanka after she revived 39 patents in China


Grow up. Get your facts straight. Impeachable offense. Damn you're dumb.

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Oct 4, 2019 08:59:20   #
Lonewolf
 
JFlorio wrote:
Grow up. Get your facts straight. Impeachable offense. Damn you're dumb.


Not as dumb as you he asked china to investigate a political rival and that is against the law and an impeachable offense

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Oct 4, 2019 09:07:33   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
It seemed as though each time Vice President visited China, or talked with Hu Jintao, H****r benefited. One example comes to mind; in 2013, the H****r B***n was part of an official U.S. delegation to China. Ten days later, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC., a private equity firm managed by H****r, inked a $1 billion deal with the Bank of China. The deal was eventually increased to $1.5 billion. H****r’s deals with China would go on to have serious national security implications for the United States. One such deal was with the automotive subsidiary of Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), a major Chinese military contractor accused of frequently stealing U.S. military technology.

If you recall, it was during 2013 and 2014, China embarked on an aggressive air and island campaign to dominate the South China Sea, much to the dismay of Japan and other countries in the region. When Vice President Joe Biden visited the country in 2013, he emphasized trade between the U.S. and China and did not focus on the South China Sea. Secretary of State John Kerry did the same in 2014. In other words they were "soft" on China's expansion. Meantime, Biden's son H****r and Kerry's stepson Chris Heinz carried out massive business deals with Chinese officials and the state-owned Bank of China. Worse, H****r B***n and Chris Heinz even invested in a Chinese nuclear company under FBI investigation. The Biden and Kerry families and friends pocketed major cash from companies connected to the Chinese government.

There is an excellent book entitled Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends that goes into detail with researchable references. Highly reckoned!
It seemed as though each time Vice President visit... (show quote)


Ok, let's investigate the Bidens.........................that still doesn't get Trump off the hook - sorry.

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Oct 4, 2019 09:29:04   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Trump asking is another impeachable offence maybe we should investigate ivanka after she revived 39 patents in China


I believe that Ivanka was investigated by the US and China. And surely you are aware that Abigail Klem took over day-to-day management when the first daughter became a White House p**********l adviser. Ivanka Trump has become a brand name, Ms Trump is not paid, but when she leaves her current job, she has a clause in her contract that allows her to assume control of her companies and brand.


Since when has it become an impeachable offense to ask or receive assistance in criminal investigations? Is that not what A. Schiff did when he wrote letters to UK, Australia, Ukraine, and Russia asking them to help Mueller in his investigation?

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Oct 4, 2019 09:32:20   #
PeterS
 
Pennylynn wrote:
It seemed as though each time Vice President visited China, or talked with Hu Jintao, H****r benefited. One example comes to mind; in 2013, the H****r B***n was part of an official U.S. delegation to China. Ten days later, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC., a private equity firm managed by H****r, inked a $1 billion deal with the Bank of China. The deal was eventually increased to $1.5 billion. H****r’s deals with China would go on to have serious national security implications for the United States. One such deal was with the automotive subsidiary of Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), a major Chinese military contractor accused of frequently stealing U.S. military technology.

If you recall, it was during 2013 and 2014, China embarked on an aggressive air and island campaign to dominate the South China Sea, much to the dismay of Japan and other countries in the region. When Vice President Joe Biden visited the country in 2013, he emphasized trade between the U.S. and China and did not focus on the South China Sea. Secretary of State John Kerry did the same in 2014. In other words they were "soft" on China's expansion. Meantime, Biden's son H****r and Kerry's stepson Chris Heinz carried out massive business deals with Chinese officials and the state-owned Bank of China. Worse, H****r B***n and Chris Heinz even invested in a Chinese nuclear company under FBI investigation. The Biden and Kerry families and friends pocketed major cash from companies connected to the Chinese government.

There is an excellent book entitled Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends that goes into detail with researchable references. Highly reckoned!
It seemed as though each time Vice President visit... (show quote)

If this is so important why did Trump wait until he was running for ree******n before bringing up the need for an investigation? Why don't you put that giant brain of yours into investigating that so we can understand why Trump is handing Pelosi reasons for impeachment on a Trump engraved silver platter?

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Oct 4, 2019 09:40:13   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Pennylynn wrote:
It seemed as though each time Vice President visited China, or talked with Hu Jintao, H****r benefited. One example comes to mind; in 2013, the H****r B***n was part of an official U.S. delegation to China. Ten days later, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC., a private equity firm managed by H****r, inked a $1 billion deal with the Bank of China. The deal was eventually increased to $1.5 billion. H****r’s deals with China would go on to have serious national security implications for the United States. One such deal was with the automotive subsidiary of Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), a major Chinese military contractor accused of frequently stealing U.S. military technology.

If you recall, it was during 2013 and 2014, China embarked on an aggressive air and island campaign to dominate the South China Sea, much to the dismay of Japan and other countries in the region. When Vice President Joe Biden visited the country in 2013, he emphasized trade between the U.S. and China and did not focus on the South China Sea. Secretary of State John Kerry did the same in 2014. In other words they were "soft" on China's expansion. Meantime, Biden's son H****r and Kerry's stepson Chris Heinz carried out massive business deals with Chinese officials and the state-owned Bank of China. Worse, H****r B***n and Chris Heinz even invested in a Chinese nuclear company under FBI investigation. The Biden and Kerry families and friends pocketed major cash from companies connected to the Chinese government.

There is an excellent book entitled Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends that goes into detail with researchable references. Highly reckoned!
It seemed as though each time Vice President visit... (show quote)


To long to post balance of this article, but it is a good read.. explains events, not only the trump version..

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/politics/h****r-biden-china.html

President Trump’s latest broadside against former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son H****r appears to center on a joint venture that involved the younger Mr. Biden and some of China’s leading state-owned financial companies.

But the president’s claims bear little if any relation to the known facts.

Without presenting any evidence, Mr. Trump suggested on Thursday that China showered $1.5 billion on H****r B***n in order to influence his father and win favorable trade deals with the United States.

“That’s probably why China for so many years has had a sweetheart deal where China rips off the U.S.A.” because they deal with people like “Biden where they give the son a billion and a half dollars,” Mr. Trump told reporters on the South Lawn of the White House. He added: “You know what they call that? They call that a payoff.”

Companies associated with H****r B***n or his business partners have struck several deals involving China over the past decade. So, in fact, have Mr. Trump’s own relatives — a point that Mr. Trump does not mention in his now almost-daily accusations against the former vice president, a leading Democratic p**********l candidate, and his son.

Mr. Trump’s efforts this past summer to pressure Volodymyr Zelensky, the new Ukrainian president, to investigate Mr. Biden and his son — at the same time that Mr. Trump was withholding $391 million in American military aid to Ukraine — set off the fast-moving impeachment inquiry now underway in the House of Representatives.

The president’s attacks also come after a string of controversies involving members of Mr. Trump’s extended family and China, most of them unfolding after he was elected. A company run by his daughter Ivanka has been awarded dozens of potentially valuable trademarks by the Chinese government. A real estate company owned by the family of Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser, tried to sell its troubled investment in a Manhattan skyscraper to a prominent Chinese firm. And Nicole Meyer, Mr. Kushner’s sister and an executive in the family firm, invoked her connections to the president when she pitched Chinese investors in Beijing to buy into a development in New Jersey.

The $1.5 billion figure to which Mr. Trump referred on Thursday appears to be the amount of money that a Shanghai-based private-equity company, BHR Equity Investment Fund Management Co., aimed to raise in 2014. The company, which says its biggest shareholder is the state-controlled Bank of China, pools money and invests in companies, many of which are also state owned.

H****r B***n has been a member of the board of BHR since it was formed in late 2013. In October 2017, after his father had left the vice presidency, he bought 10 percent of the firm, investing the equivalent of $420,000.

he has never been paid for his role on the board, and has not profited financially since he began as a part-owner.

“He has not been compensated for being on the board of directors, nor has he received any return on his investment to date,” Mr. Mesires said. Although BHR has been involved in a number of business deals, he said, “there have been no distributions to the shareholders since H****r has been an equity owner.”

The Wall Street Journal reported in 2014 that the firm was seeking to raise $1.5 billion.

That figure was then cited by Peter Schweizer, a conservative author, in a 2018 book detailing the China business ties of some prominent American political families. Mr. Schweizer was also the author of the 2015 book “Clinton Cash.”

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Oct 4, 2019 09:53:52   #
PeterS
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I believe that Ivanka was investigated by the US and China. And surely you are aware that Abigail Klem took over day-to-day management when the first daughter became a White House p**********l adviser. Ivanka Trump has become a brand name, Ms Trump is not paid, but when she leaves her current job, she has a clause in her contract that allows her to assume control of her companies and brand.


Since when has it become an impeachable offense to ask or receive assistance in criminal investigations? Is that not what A. Schiff did when he wrote letters to UK, Australia, Ukraine, and Russia asking them to help Mueller in his investigation?
I believe that Ivanka was investigated by the US a... (show quote)

Again, if this investigation is so important why did Trump wait until a year before v**ers were going to the poll to elect a new president? Throughout all this Trump has banked on his opponent being a worse choice then he was--and that's a hard thing to do--which is why he needs to paint Biden guilty of some crime his son committed.

It's a sleazy thing to do but when they elected Trump they became the party of sleaze as is demonstrated when our resident genius tries to create a plausible reason for Trump to use much needed military hardware as leverage in getting an investigation into Biden started. Her only problem is answering why Trump waited until year three in his presidency to develop any interest in what H****r and his father may or may not have done in the Ukraine and Ghina. But she's a genius so certainly she can up with an answer to satisfy her peeps and she doesn't have to be a genius to do that.

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Oct 4, 2019 09:55:26   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
permafrost wrote:
To long to post balance of this article, but it is a good read.. explains events, not only the trump version..

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/politics/h****r-biden-china.html

President Trump’s latest broadside against former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son H****r appears to center on a joint venture that involved the younger Mr. Biden and some of China’s leading state-owned financial companies.

But the president’s claims bear little if any relation to the known facts.

Without presenting any evidence, Mr. Trump suggested on Thursday that China showered $1.5 billion on H****r B***n in order to influence his father and win favorable trade deals with the United States.

“That’s probably why China for so many years has had a sweetheart deal where China rips off the U.S.A.” because they deal with people like “Biden where they give the son a billion and a half dollars,” Mr. Trump told reporters on the South Lawn of the White House. He added: “You know what they call that? They call that a payoff.”

Companies associated with H****r B***n or his business partners have struck several deals involving China over the past decade. So, in fact, have Mr. Trump’s own relatives — a point that Mr. Trump does not mention in his now almost-daily accusations against the former vice president, a leading Democratic p**********l candidate, and his son.

Mr. Trump’s efforts this past summer to pressure Volodymyr Zelensky, the new Ukrainian president, to investigate Mr. Biden and his son — at the same time that Mr. Trump was withholding $391 million in American military aid to Ukraine — set off the fast-moving impeachment inquiry now underway in the House of Representatives.

The president’s attacks also come after a string of controversies involving members of Mr. Trump’s extended family and China, most of them unfolding after he was elected. A company run by his daughter Ivanka has been awarded dozens of potentially valuable trademarks by the Chinese government. A real estate company owned by the family of Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser, tried to sell its troubled investment in a Manhattan skyscraper to a prominent Chinese firm. And Nicole Meyer, Mr. Kushner’s sister and an executive in the family firm, invoked her connections to the president when she pitched Chinese investors in Beijing to buy into a development in New Jersey.

The $1.5 billion figure to which Mr. Trump referred on Thursday appears to be the amount of money that a Shanghai-based private-equity company, BHR Equity Investment Fund Management Co., aimed to raise in 2014. The company, which says its biggest shareholder is the state-controlled Bank of China, pools money and invests in companies, many of which are also state owned.

H****r B***n has been a member of the board of BHR since it was formed in late 2013. In October 2017, after his father had left the vice presidency, he bought 10 percent of the firm, investing the equivalent of $420,000.

he has never been paid for his role on the board, and has not profited financially since he began as a part-owner.

“He has not been compensated for being on the board of directors, nor has he received any return on his investment to date,” Mr. Mesires said. Although BHR has been involved in a number of business deals, he said, “there have been no distributions to the shareholders since H****r has been an equity owner.”

The Wall Street Journal reported in 2014 that the firm was seeking to raise $1.5 billion.

That figure was then cited by Peter Schweizer, a conservative author, in a 2018 book detailing the China business ties of some prominent American political families. Mr. Schweizer was also the author of the 2015 book “Clinton Cash.”
To long to post balance of this article, but it is... (show quote)


Actually, the POUS did not mention money when he suggested tha China might want to investigate the Biden family, he simply said "By the way, likewise, China should start an investigation into the Bidens because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine."

When I got to that misreprentation in your comment, I stopped reading. I do not have time to read propaganda.

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Oct 4, 2019 10:06:27   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Not as dumb as you he asked china to investigate a political rival and that is against the law and an impeachable offense


I thought you guys said no one is above the Law. Because Biden is a candidate means nothing. His actions were taken before he was a candidate. Under your own definition how does Biden and every other Democrat candidate get away with calling for the investigation into a political rival; Trump?

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Oct 4, 2019 10:07:08   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Actually, the POUS did not mention money when he suggested tha China might want to investigate the Biden family, he simply said "By the way, likewise, China should start an investigation into the Bidens because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine."

When I got to that misreprentation in your comment, I stopped reading. I do not have time to read propaganda.


It's what he or his sources always do. Complete waste of time.

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Oct 4, 2019 10:15:15   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
JFlorio wrote:
I thought you guys said no one is above the Law. Because Biden is a candidate means nothing. His actions were taken before he was a candidate. Under your own definition how does Biden and every other Democrat candidate get away with calling for the investigation into a political rival; Trump?


I think they intended to insert a qualifier, "No Conservative" We have seen, in practice how Democrats are above the law.

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Oct 4, 2019 10:18:58   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Actually, the POUS did not mention money when he suggested tha China might want to investigate the Biden family, he simply said "By the way, likewise, China should start an investigation into the Bidens because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine."

When I got to that misreprentation in your comment, I stopped reading. I do not have time to read propaganda.



You are correct that trump did not mention the money when speaking to China..
that comes from several right wing attempts to show is as money that H****r was given, rather than the fact it was the total amount the group wanted to raise for their funding..

t***h hurts?? You should value the t***h.. as the founders stated, it is t***h which creates the foundation of our nation..

Lurking!!!
Lurking!!!...

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