Both sides of the Impeachment of Trump over the Ukraine phone call
Oct 3, 2019 10:12:47 #
Perspectives:
NO ON IMPEACHMENT
Political factors show impeachment is the wrong choice
"I can see how Trump’s words and actions could add up to an impeachable offense here, but I don’t think it makes sense to impeach him for it. Impeachment is a political choice, to be made prudentially, and a year before an e******n, at a time when public trust in government is so dismally low already, and given that it’s pretty clear how such a process would end, impeachment doesn’t look wise." — Yuval Levin, National Review
Democrats will take any excuse to delegitimize the Trump presidency
"Since the 2016 e******n, Democrats have set out to reverse the will of v**ers using any means necessary to discredit, destroy, and remove from office President Trump by impeachment. This illegitimate assault on the office of the president is not only unprecedented, but it’s a threat to our democracy." — Mark Vargas, Washington Examiner
Eagerness to impeach led Democrats to see violations that weren't there
"What this shows, I think, is the kind of anger and even hatred of this president by his political opponents and it has blinded them. It has blinded them to the degree that they think they can make something out of nothing and there's nothing here in this transcript that is impeachable." — Bill Bennett, Fox News
Treating impeachment as a chance to score political points is wrong
"An impeachment v**e should not just be an exercise in virtue signaling. … It is easy to imagine Democrats v****g for a long list of complaints about how Donald Trump has conducted himself in the presidency, but the real constitutional duty is not for House members to express their feelings." — Keith Whittington, Reason
Trump committed an impeachable offense, but impeachment is still a bad idea
"I think Trump did it. I think it’s obvious he did it. I think as more facts come to light, it will become even more obvious he did it. I also think it’s obvious that this is an impeachable offense. However, that doesn’t mean I’m persuaded he must be impeached over it." — Jonah Goldberg, Chicago Tribune
YES ON IMPEACHMENT
Trump's actions are a prototypical example of an impeachable offense
"A president’s use of his power for his own political gain, at the expense of the public interest, is the quintessence of an impeachable offense. It was, in fact, one of the examples the Constitution’s framers deployed to explain what would constitute 'high crimes and misdemeanors,' the standard for impeachment." — Editorial, New York Times
Impeachment is useless if not pursued in this case
"If this in itself is not impeachable, then the concept has no meaning." — Tom Nichols, The Atlantic
Arguments against impeachment don't hold up
"You can get a serious case of intellectual whiplash reading up on the arguments against impeaching President Trump. Most of them, in my view, insult the notion that we are a nation of laws, that we elect representatives to act on our behalf in Washington, and that Americans can walk and chew gum at the same time." — Robin Abcarian, Los Angeles Times
The House is obligated to impeach, regardless of the political implications
"Impeachment is the mechanism by which 'We the People' are supposed to be protected against such abuses as treason, bribery or systematic violation of civil liberties. In the face of such abuses, the House is not permitted to decide that because of political considerations, it will stay its hand." — Cass R. Sunstein, Bloomberg
The House should impeach even though Trump is unlikely to be removed from office
"Even assuming the Senate doesn’t convict, impeachment in the House will accomplish what prosecutions are supposed to — it will punish and deter misconduct." — Max Boot, Washington Post
NO ON IMPEACHMENT
Political factors show impeachment is the wrong choice
"I can see how Trump’s words and actions could add up to an impeachable offense here, but I don’t think it makes sense to impeach him for it. Impeachment is a political choice, to be made prudentially, and a year before an e******n, at a time when public trust in government is so dismally low already, and given that it’s pretty clear how such a process would end, impeachment doesn’t look wise." — Yuval Levin, National Review
Democrats will take any excuse to delegitimize the Trump presidency
"Since the 2016 e******n, Democrats have set out to reverse the will of v**ers using any means necessary to discredit, destroy, and remove from office President Trump by impeachment. This illegitimate assault on the office of the president is not only unprecedented, but it’s a threat to our democracy." — Mark Vargas, Washington Examiner
Eagerness to impeach led Democrats to see violations that weren't there
"What this shows, I think, is the kind of anger and even hatred of this president by his political opponents and it has blinded them. It has blinded them to the degree that they think they can make something out of nothing and there's nothing here in this transcript that is impeachable." — Bill Bennett, Fox News
Treating impeachment as a chance to score political points is wrong
"An impeachment v**e should not just be an exercise in virtue signaling. … It is easy to imagine Democrats v****g for a long list of complaints about how Donald Trump has conducted himself in the presidency, but the real constitutional duty is not for House members to express their feelings." — Keith Whittington, Reason
Trump committed an impeachable offense, but impeachment is still a bad idea
"I think Trump did it. I think it’s obvious he did it. I think as more facts come to light, it will become even more obvious he did it. I also think it’s obvious that this is an impeachable offense. However, that doesn’t mean I’m persuaded he must be impeached over it." — Jonah Goldberg, Chicago Tribune
YES ON IMPEACHMENT
Trump's actions are a prototypical example of an impeachable offense
"A president’s use of his power for his own political gain, at the expense of the public interest, is the quintessence of an impeachable offense. It was, in fact, one of the examples the Constitution’s framers deployed to explain what would constitute 'high crimes and misdemeanors,' the standard for impeachment." — Editorial, New York Times
Impeachment is useless if not pursued in this case
"If this in itself is not impeachable, then the concept has no meaning." — Tom Nichols, The Atlantic
Arguments against impeachment don't hold up
"You can get a serious case of intellectual whiplash reading up on the arguments against impeaching President Trump. Most of them, in my view, insult the notion that we are a nation of laws, that we elect representatives to act on our behalf in Washington, and that Americans can walk and chew gum at the same time." — Robin Abcarian, Los Angeles Times
The House is obligated to impeach, regardless of the political implications
"Impeachment is the mechanism by which 'We the People' are supposed to be protected against such abuses as treason, bribery or systematic violation of civil liberties. In the face of such abuses, the House is not permitted to decide that because of political considerations, it will stay its hand." — Cass R. Sunstein, Bloomberg
The House should impeach even though Trump is unlikely to be removed from office
"Even assuming the Senate doesn’t convict, impeachment in the House will accomplish what prosecutions are supposed to — it will punish and deter misconduct." — Max Boot, Washington Post
Oct 3, 2019 10:59:01 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
rumitoid wrote:
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All of this impeachment smokescreen isn't going to exonerate the Biden's.
You people didn't learn anything from the Mueller smoke and mirror arcade .
Oct 3, 2019 11:03:20 #
byronglimish wrote:
All of this impeachment smokescreen isn't going to exonerate the Biden's.
You people didn't learn anything from the Mueller smoke and mirror arcade .
You people didn't learn anything from the Mueller smoke and mirror arcade .
Bidens dident do anything
Oct 3, 2019 11:05:56 #
Lonewolf wrote:
Bidens dident do anything
I checked Google and could not find the meaning of "dident".
Oct 3, 2019 12:10:06 #
Lonewolf wrote:
Bidens dident do anything
Thank you Lone Wolf , you need to write stand up, that's the funniest thing I've seen on this whole routine!!
Oct 3, 2019 12:13:36 #
amadjuster wrote:
I checked Google and could not find the meaning of "dident".
English is his second language.
Oct 3, 2019 12:13:43 #
Lazzara wrote:
Thank you Lone Wolf , you need to write stand up, that's the funniest thing I've seen on this whole routine!!
The only problem is, he doesn't know what we are talking about.
Oct 3, 2019 12:23:18 #
amadjuster wrote:
The only problem is, he doesn't know what we are talking about.
He does not know what he is talking about either.
Oct 3, 2019 16:39:27 #
amadjuster wrote:
The only problem is, he doesn't know what we are talking about.
I know. It’s a beautiful thing....
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