woodguru

There is one purpose for supporting whistleblowers, and that is to bring something of concern to the attention of someone in a high enough place to do something...but it's more. The person trying to point out something of concern is invariably squealing off someone over their heads, a boss or someone at the very top. Going through the chain of command rarely works because the concern will be shut down and the person with the complaint is told to shut up, or even risks being fired.

Any concern being brought to the attention of the Intelligence Inspector General then DNI that is of an urgent and critical nature doesn't have an eye on the source, the focus is on the topic of concern. When the IC IG looks into and verifies a detailed report that listed credible and verified information that fully checks out, the concerns that checked out are all that really matters.

The whistleblower might be having coffee with someone who says oh my god, you won't believe what my boss is doing. He asks what proof there is, and says I'm going to file a report, you will be listed as a source for verification, it's all done anonymously, the IG will protect it's sources.

The person who squeals off a situation is nearly irrelevant, what matters is if we have a president abusing and misusing the power of his office and the country. Those impeaching are only worried about what the president did that warrants impeachment, and whether obvious and compelling proof exists. Proof of the deeds and actions that are impeachable are generally far more obvious than the chain of witness proofs. It doesn't matter who squealed the president off, what matters is if he did something of impeachable concerns.

Whistleblower situations can have a thousand people who know something illegal is being done in front of people's faces, and it takes one incredibly brave person who is placed where they have the access to a piece of the hard evidence to say this isn't right, I'm taking it to the top.

Liberty Tree

Spin! Spin! Spin to cover lack of credibility. Rule of law be damned. You would sing a different tune if this was a democrat and you know, but you lack the integrity to admit it.

Kevyn

Using the crackpot “hearsay” defense pumped out by the Pumpkinfuhrer’s propagandists, Bill Clinton would never have been investigated or impeached. Linda Tripp had no firsthand knowledge of Clintons indiscretion and yet the folks circling the wagons around Trumps imploding reign were happy to lapp up Trips story.

Airforceone

It’s so good to read a post such as yours because the people on OPP just refuse to use any common sense as to why our government actually started to make whistleblowers legal.
The whistleblower Protection Act Of 1989 was enacted to protect Federal workers who disclose Government illegality, waste, and corruption. Trump has a massive movement to get the identity of the whistleblower and hopefully Trump does not get this persons name, because he will destroy this person and his family in every way possible and discourage any further whistleblower from coming forward.
Every whistleblower complaint is investigated by the IG office and verified if there are illegal actions by Government officials. If the IG report is Verified it is suppose to be passed on to the house intel committee. Why this report ended up in the hands of the DNI Director and t***sferred to the White House and DOJ when these people were mentioned in the Whistleblowers complaint is beyond belief. Let’s just look at what happened the DNI Director gave the report to the White house and it involved Trumps phone call bribing the new Ukrainian President. And this DNI Director asked if he should submit it to congress. I wonder what Trump said ohhhhhhhhh nooooooooo bury it in a server used for highly classified intelligence.

(I PRAY FOR THIS BRAVE PERSON THAT CAME FORWARD THAT TRUMP NEVER GETS HIS NAME. BUT EVENTUALLY HE WILL SOMEONE IN THAT IG OFFICE WILL GET IT FOR TRUMP)

But that’s the Trump White House.

Seth

If Hillary's Email Adventure® had been handled as wantonly (and even a deaf, dumb and blind Democrat knows damn well she was guilty) and on as flimsy a foundation as this latest doomed attempt to "nail" President Trump, Chelsea would be visiting Mom in the penitentiary while Bill was rejoicing at not having the "ball and chain" around for the next few years.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

Once again, if it's not first hand i.e. witnessed, it is hearsay, i.e. gossip. It is regularly challenged in court and ruled NOT admissible. Of course, this doesn't matter to smear and h**e merchants.

Pariahjf

This is not a legal issue and this is NOT in court, so that's a moot point. This is an inquiry on what actions should be taken to proceed with impeachment.

Seth

Meanwhile, as the mainstream media pretends it's not happening while the Democrats attempt to crush it, a series of investigations continues into events leading up to the Mueller debacle, revisitation of Hillary's Email Adventure® and the Biden Affair© in Ukraine.

These investigations scare the hell out of the Democrats as they threaten, collectively, to unravel a plethora of dirty deeds that will ultimately cost them dearly, some at the polls, others in the legal system.

At the end of the day, the Democratic Party will wish they had accepted Trump as winner in 2016 and adhered to the rule of law rather than an "end justifies the means" position.

Pariahjf

The problem is, it's not JUST the Dems dirty deeds. It's also the dirty deeds of the GOP, the Mossad, the CIA, and others around the world who are also caught up in this process. And they will NOT go quietly----too many hands in the cookie jar for this to be dealt with.

woodguru

Once again...this is not a court, it is an impeachment...once evidence is out it is all that matters, how the evidence was obtained as far as whistleblowing if it delivers good credible information it's gold. Trump released the Ukraine call notes, they are in play and how this came about is irrelevant.

The GOP is running around trying to make out like this is a court of law, when everything needed is out, congress is simply trying to call on witnesses that can add more.

There is not going to be a ruling of not admissible, there is no such thing, if we know it it is in play, it's just showing proof, nothing to do with how the proof came about.

woodguru

Exactly, the right will never get that out of their heads that Trump isn't getting a day in court, not that he would ever appear to testify anyway.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

So, rumors & gossip are just fine for you and your Democrats? That tells me just what kind of lowlifes you and they are.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

What about the Steele dossier? What about the Russian & Ukrainian matters that were really the doing of the Democrats? White Water? The trail of bodies to the Clintons? Biden and Ukraine. What's sauce for the goose. How far back do you want to go?

I could dredge up a lot more but I prefer debating ideas and their consequences logically and practically, something you progressives have a history of avoiding. You are to be congratulated for your ability to blame things on others, usually Republlcans, conservatives & libertarians.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

The whistleblowers are known, they are 3 ex-cia hacks from Brennan's days. What you've just laid out is the purpose of an anonymous phone call. "Whistleblowers" (I was one) against Sloan-Kettering, are cowards if they don't stand up. I stood up, where are their balls?

Seth

And you still aren't understanding the true depth of the way our government was set up by the founders.

If Congress did their job correctly, both sides prioritizinging the interests of the nation and we, the people, above their partisan political B.S., the agencies and unelected bureaucrats that abuse their authority, the swamp, could be weeded out no problem.

This isn't the case, however, and while the Republicans bear responsibility to the extent that they try too hard to be "gentlemanly" and as a result get walked all over by the Democrats, it's the Democrats themselves who populate the root causes of our worst problems.

How?

By placing hunger for power above principle to the extent that basic morality and any sense of fair play, even the spirit of the law pale to insignificance to the point that even a blatant act of treason or public endangerment becomes mere "civil disobedience" in their eyes.

The money the left and their g*******t partners pour into Democratic coffers buys and pays for a variety of agendas that go contrary to American values, traditions and culture, Babelesquely divide the people and attack both our economic strength, our national security and public safety at their very roots while indoctrinating school children -- useful i***ts in the media, in need of a "cause" and believing themselves immune to the fallout, as well as gullible citizens lacking in the sort of vision that might enable them to see the end of the road that certain agendas will inevitably take us down, jump on the same bandwagons.

Influences from outside our country could easily be repelled if a healthy Congress, working for the goals put in place by the founders, functioned with the same "America first" intentions envisioned by those very smart, liberty loving people back in the late 1700s, rather than working 24/7 at political cross purposes to each other.

As for the "swamp," their agendas all flow to the left and into the g*******t arena, wherein they see their lifelong unelected positions as potentially holding more power.

None of these agendas, which are the same as those currently being pushed by the Democratic Party, coincides with any of the tenets long embraced by, and indeed responsible for, the universal success of the United States of America as a nation.

In the kind of country they would lead us into becoming, all those "progressives" now attacking and otherwise slandering President Trump with impunity would instead be disappearing in the dead of night, together with their families and 90% of the media would be tried for s******n in Kangaroo courts.

Any reasonably informed American can see that it is the left that shouts down the right, persecutes Christian businesses (shades of the USSR), commits violence against those with conservative opinion, innacurately attaches r****t and f*****t labels to such concepts as nationalism and patriotism and employs activist judges to overrule Congressional and even SCOTUS precedent..

Despite the use of t***sferrence to accuse conservatives of disruptive activities and agendas, these activities and agendas all come from the left -- the only "disruption" currently in effect is via the legal authority of a president whose policies are disrupting the destructive agendas of the left.

This is why since Trump was elected to the White House, the Democratic Party has been engaged in one unending, tenacious attempt at a c**p d'etat filled with blatantly obvious "witch hunting:"

"We have no actual impeachable crimes to pin on you, but we'll spend every minute of the people's time and however much of the people's money it takes to find something."

This is nothing short of an abuse of elected and non-elected positions, a display of pure contempt for the e*******l process and an even more profound display of contempt for the American people.