padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

I understand what you're trying to say. If Progressives THINK "collusion" is a crime, when it's not, then it's worthy of prosecution, by them, even though there was no evidence of collusion. I wonder if someday Progressives will be able to execute folks for what they think the folks think? Seems like a natural progression huh?

Navigator

No, collusion is not a crime b/c collusion is not a crime. Conspiracy is a crime. According to Mueller, Trump engaged in neither.

Navigator

If you actually read the transcript (its available everywhere and is quite short) than you still haven't learned how to read. Trump bribed bribed no one, spent most of his time talking about the lack of support the Ukraine is getting from European allies and government to government business and then asked for help in an ongoing criminal investigation into the interference in the 2016 e******n by the executive agencies of the Obama administration and of foreign help provided to the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Later in the call Trump asked for investigation into criminal activities of Joe (not H****r) Biden, which you categorize as interference in our e******n. Let me ask you a question: If Joe Biden were not running for e******n, would it have been OK for our President to ask the President of the Ukraine to investigate possible criminal activity on the part of a high US government official (Vice President)? I believe the answer to that is yes. As a matter of fact, IMHO, it would have not only been OK but would have been his responsibility to do so. Do you think the process of running for e******n should insulate a person from investigation into possible criminal activity? Remember, the Dems constantly state that no one is above the law, including the President; that statement also includes former Vice Presidents running for President.

Lonewolf

no matter what Biden did or didn't do it has no effect on what trump did!!!

Lonewolf

I'm, not a Biden fan how do you think it would have turned out if trump had been investigated before the e******n. ill tell you one thing not one member of the Trump family could ever pass and get even a low leval security clearence

Ricktloml

So the left managed to dig up 1 Ukrainian prosecutor who isn't sure there was corruption. There are several, including the prosecutor Biden smeared, got fired, and is continuing to smear who ARE sure there was plenty of corruption involved. And then you can move on to the billion+ dollar deal in China where Vice, (good position for old Joe,) President Biden did pay for play as well. And the propaganda wing of the Democrat/socialist Party is still trying to cover it all up.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Okay, something you'll h**e, facts. The kid had no expertise of Ukraine-I'd let him skate there. H****r had absolutely no knowledge of oil, gas or electricity, yet he was paid $83,000 a month in Ukraine. That one is way too fishy. Then when the NYT told his daddy that he may be investigated, Joe went there and threatened to withhold $1.5 Billion. I wouldn't brag about that, but I'm not mentally impaired. He just doesn't *believe* that H****r is guilty? Have you looked into his past? Ukraine was a hotbed of lies, they were helping Hillary.

Lonewolf

What does this have to do with trump???? Trump was looking for dirt on biden and was sitting on money they needed thats the problem! Hang them both

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Not in the transcripts. All inferred. It is hearsay. Look up the word dummy.

Lonewolf

We only got a summery of the call no way they would leave anything out the pentagon cleared the money in may it's then that trump sat on it!

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

So what? Not a crime. The Ukraine has been rife with corruption for a while. The pentagon will give anyone weapons practically if they think it’s in our best interests. Which not all conflicts are.

Navigator

Exactly, Trump engaged in P**********l diplomacy, Biden committed a crime.

Navigator

Minor technical correction: Ivanka received a secret clearance and her husband received a top secret clearance.

Navigator

Trump was investigated before the e******n, extensively and illegally. The investigation was not of anything specific b/c nothing specific of consequence was known; in other words it was just an investigation to dig up dirt, any kind of dirt. When nothing of significance was found, it was made up aka the Steele Dossier.

Navigator

Obama and Hillary were looking for non-specific dirt on Trump; Trump was requesting help with a specific ongoing criminal investigation into the origins of the Mueller probe, some of which were in the Ukraine and with an investigation into specific criminal acts by Joe Biden. The results of these investigations are of significant importance to the interests of the United States and it citizens, not merely to the Trump campaign, and so fall well within the responsibility of the President of the US and his attorney general to ferret out. By the way, the aid Trump withheld was supposed to be sent in February, five months prior to the phone call. If Trump was using this aid to coerce the Ukrainian President, why would he wait 5 months to call? In another btw, in the official transcript of the call, Trump never mentioned this aid in any way during the phone call and promised nothing in return for investigating Trump.