This Is True and Real Leadership! Whether you like him or not this Man has nothing but a clear LOVE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! So I'm asking what the real reason is for either...

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Whether you like him or not this Man has nothing but a clear LOVE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! So I'm asking what the real reason is for either disliking or even hating this president is really and truly all about. Past presidents both Democrat and Republican alike have spoken in all kinds of flowery speeches, continuous pandering to their constituency and in the end very little of what they say has been accomplished based on their so called promises. Now we have President Trump who above all who has not only been around the underbelly of the beast but has succeeded beyond expectations. Does anyone here actually think that flowery speeches and non action by previous administrations to include political malfeasance is a better way for our country, our people and our families? What is so awful about protecting our boarders from all of the additional criminal behaviors and actions like we don't already have enough to last several generations? What is so awfully wrong about not wanting more people coming here that end up being wards of the state when again we have enough already here to last several generations without the additional burden? What is so awfully wrong to demand that other countries that we have treaties with to pay their fair share of the economic burden that was already negotiated by previous administrations for the various protections that we as Americans continuously provide? My thoughts on this is that we as Americans have been so used to being taking advantage of and all of the corruption not only in our government but in our corporate world here and abroad that, it is so damn uncomfortable to actually be shown what the hell has been taking place that we are more afraid of actually seeing it and just wanting the previous STATUS QUO that it actually has stunned and shocked our individual senses into perhaps just wanting things to go back to the way things were so we can feel comfortable in our own demise as a country and have things to complain about.
Semper Fi
Mike

https://youtu.be/wWenqCzzgKw

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

2bltap wrote:

Whether you like him or not this Man has nothing but a clear LOVE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! So I'm asking what the real reason is for either disliking or even hating this president is really and truly all about. Past presidents both Democrat and Republican alike have spoken in all kinds of flowery speeches, continuous pandering to their constituency and in the end very little of what they say has been accomplished based on their so called promises. Now we have President Trump who above all who has not only been around the underbelly of the beast but has succeeded beyond expectations. Does anyone here actually think that flowery speeches and non action by previous administrations to include political malfeasance is a better way for our country, our people and our families? What is so awful about protecting our boarders from all of the additional criminal behaviors and actions like we don't already have enough to last several generations? What is so awfully wrong about not wanting more people coming here that end up being wards of the state when again we have enough already here to last several generations without the additional burden? What is so awfully wrong to demand that other countries that we have treaties with to pay their fair share of the economic burden that was already negotiated by previous administrations for the various protections that we as Americans continuously provide? My thoughts on this is that we as Americans have been so used to being taking advantage of and all of the corruption not only in our government but in our corporate world here and abroad that, it is so damn uncomfortable to actually be shown what the hell has been taking place that we are more afraid of actually seeing it and just wanting the previous STATUS QUO that it actually has stunned and shocked our individual senses into perhaps just wanting things to go back to the way things were so we can feel comfortable in our own demise as a country and have things to complain about.
Semper Fi
Mike

https://youtu.be/wWenqCzzgKw

Whether you like him or not this Man has nothing b... (show quote)

Someone has a great sense of history. Well said.

The lefties will be here at any moment.

badbob85037

2bltap wrote:

Whether you like him or not this Man has nothing but a clear LOVE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! So I'm asking what the real reason is for either disliking or even hating this president is really and truly all about. Past presidents both Democrat and Republican alike have spoken in all kinds of flowery speeches, continuous pandering to their constituency and in the end very little of what they say has been accomplished based on their so called promises. Now we have President Trump who above all who has not only been around the underbelly of the beast but has succeeded beyond expectations. Does anyone here actually think that flowery speeches and non action by previous administrations to include political malfeasance is a better way for our country, our people and our families? What is so awful about protecting our boarders from all of the additional criminal behaviors and actions like we don't already have enough to last several generations? What is so awfully wrong about not wanting more people coming here that end up being wards of the state when again we have enough already here to last several generations without the additional burden? What is so awfully wrong to demand that other countries that we have treaties with to pay their fair share of the economic burden that was already negotiated by previous administrations for the various protections that we as Americans continuously provide? My thoughts on this is that we as Americans have been so used to being taking advantage of and all of the corruption not only in our government but in our corporate world here and abroad that, it is so damn uncomfortable to actually be shown what the hell has been taking place that we are more afraid of actually seeing it and just wanting the previous STATUS QUO that it actually has stunned and shocked our individual senses into perhaps just wanting things to go back to the way things were so we can feel comfortable in our own demise as a country and have things to complain about.
Semper Fi
Mike

https://youtu.be/wWenqCzzgKw

Whether you like him or not this Man has nothing b... (show quote)

It has never been about what is good for the nation. It has been about 'Screw the nation, to Hell with the people and the law, get Trump!' These last couple of years we have seen the low of lows from these criminal L*****t. The only real question is why are they walking free.

2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland

Thank you both for responding. I'm surprised that the progressives have not responded. I was sure they would right away!
Semper Fi
Mike

woodguru

2bltap wrote:

Whether you like him or not this Man has nothing but a clear LOVE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! So I'm asking what the real reason is for either disliking or even hating this president is really and truly all about. Past presidents both Democrat and Republican alike have spoken in all kinds of flowery speeches, continuous pandering to their constituency and in the end very little of what they say has been accomplished based on their so called promises. Now we have President Trump who above all who has not only been around the underbelly of the beast but has succeeded beyond expectations. Does anyone here actually think that flowery speeches and non action by previous administrations to include political malfeasance is a better way for our country, our people and our families? What is so awful about protecting our boarders from all of the additional criminal behaviors and actions like we don't already have enough to last several generations? What is so awfully wrong about not wanting more people coming here that end up being wards of the state when again we have enough already here to last several generations without the additional burden? What is so awfully wrong to demand that other countries that we have treaties with to pay their fair share of the economic burden that was already negotiated by previous administrations for the various protections that we as Americans continuously provide? My thoughts on this is that we as Americans have been so used to being taking advantage of and all of the corruption not only in our government but in our corporate world here and abroad that, it is so damn uncomfortable to actually be shown what the hell has been taking place that we are more afraid of actually seeing it and just wanting the previous STATUS QUO that it actually has stunned and shocked our individual senses into perhaps just wanting things to go back to the way things were so we can feel comfortable in our own demise as a country and have things to complain about.
Semper Fi
Mike

https://youtu.be/wWenqCzzgKw

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I don't see it, he withheld desperately needed military aid from the Ukraine at a time when Russia under the cover of using mercenaries, was putting a hard push on taking a hard fought over region.

This had nothing to do with worrying about Biden, that corruption was a tiny drop in the billions being stolen from the country by Manafort and McConnell's buddy.

Trump withheld this military aid because it would have been directly used to fight Putin's mercenaries.

I'd bet a case of beer on that one, I'd also bet that the white house and DOJ, who by the way by law have no reason to interfere between intelligence and the house, will continue to obstruct the full information being given to the house and senate.

woodguru

2bltap wrote:

Whether you like him or not this Man has nothing but a clear LOVE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! So I'm asking what the real reason is for either disliking or even hating this president is really and truly all about. Past presidents both Democrat and Republican alike have spoken in all kinds of flowery speeches, continuous pandering to their constituency and in the end very little of what they say has been accomplished based on their so called promises. Now we have President Trump who above all who has not only been around the underbelly of the beast but has succeeded beyond expectations. Does anyone here actually think that flowery speeches and non action by previous administrations to include political malfeasance is a better way for our country, our people and our families? What is so awful about protecting our boarders from all of the additional criminal behaviors and actions like we don't already have enough to last several generations? What is so awfully wrong about not wanting more people coming here that end up being wards of the state when again we have enough already here to last several generations without the additional burden? What is so awfully wrong to demand that other countries that we have treaties with to pay their fair share of the economic burden that was already negotiated by previous administrations for the various protections that we as Americans continuously provide? My thoughts on this is that we as Americans have been so used to being taking advantage of and all of the corruption not only in our government but in our corporate world here and abroad that, it is so damn uncomfortable to actually be shown what the hell has been taking place that we are more afraid of actually seeing it and just wanting the previous STATUS QUO that it actually has stunned and shocked our individual senses into perhaps just wanting things to go back to the way things were so we can feel comfortable in our own demise as a country and have things to complain about.
Semper Fi
Mike

https://youtu.be/wWenqCzzgKw

Whether you like him or not this Man has nothing b... (show quote)

True and real leadership would tell McConnell, of his own party to get off their asses and start v****g on the hundreds of bills the house is sending over.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

2bltap wrote:

Whether you like him or not this Man has nothing but a clear LOVE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! So I'm asking what the real reason is for either disliking or even hating this president is really and truly all about. Past presidents both Democrat and Republican alike have spoken in all kinds of flowery speeches, continuous pandering to their constituency and in the end very little of what they say has been accomplished based on their so called promises. Now we have President Trump who above all who has not only been around the underbelly of the beast but has succeeded beyond expectations. Does anyone here actually think that flowery speeches and non action by previous administrations to include political malfeasance is a better way for our country, our people and our families? What is so awful about protecting our boarders from all of the additional criminal behaviors and actions like we don't already have enough to last several generations? What is so awfully wrong about not wanting more people coming here that end up being wards of the state when again we have enough already here to last several generations without the additional burden? What is so awfully wrong to demand that other countries that we have treaties with to pay their fair share of the economic burden that was already negotiated by previous administrations for the various protections that we as Americans continuously provide? My thoughts on this is that we as Americans have been so used to being taking advantage of and all of the corruption not only in our government but in our corporate world here and abroad that, it is so damn uncomfortable to actually be shown what the hell has been taking place that we are more afraid of actually seeing it and just wanting the previous STATUS QUO that it actually has stunned and shocked our individual senses into perhaps just wanting things to go back to the way things were so we can feel comfortable in our own demise as a country and have things to complain about.
Semper Fi
Mike

https://youtu.be/wWenqCzzgKw

Whether you like him or not this Man has nothing b... (show quote)

Trump didn't begin to "love this country" in such a heartfelt manner, until he decided to run for President. How did I arrive at this conclusion? Simple....................................I looked at his behavior during the half century prior to running.........................and there was no sign of the patriotism he now claims.

bahmer

2bltap wrote:

Whether you like him or not this Man has nothing but a clear LOVE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! So I'm asking what the real reason is for either disliking or even hating this president is really and truly all about. Past presidents both Democrat and Republican alike have spoken in all kinds of flowery speeches, continuous pandering to their constituency and in the end very little of what they say has been accomplished based on their so called promises. Now we have President Trump who above all who has not only been around the underbelly of the beast but has succeeded beyond expectations. Does anyone here actually think that flowery speeches and non action by previous administrations to include political malfeasance is a better way for our country, our people and our families? What is so awful about protecting our boarders from all of the additional criminal behaviors and actions like we don't already have enough to last several generations? What is so awfully wrong about not wanting more people coming here that end up being wards of the state when again we have enough already here to last several generations without the additional burden? What is so awfully wrong to demand that other countries that we have treaties with to pay their fair share of the economic burden that was already negotiated by previous administrations for the various protections that we as Americans continuously provide? My thoughts on this is that we as Americans have been so used to being taking advantage of and all of the corruption not only in our government but in our corporate world here and abroad that, it is so damn uncomfortable to actually be shown what the hell has been taking place that we are more afraid of actually seeing it and just wanting the previous STATUS QUO that it actually has stunned and shocked our individual senses into perhaps just wanting things to go back to the way things were so we can feel comfortable in our own demise as a country and have things to complain about.
Semper Fi
Mike

https://youtu.be/wWenqCzzgKw

Whether you like him or not this Man has nothing b... (show quote)

Excellent and he told them flat out you aren't getting in so don't even come here.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

2bltap wrote:

Thank you both for responding. I'm surprised that the progressives have not responded. I was sure they would right away!
Semper Fi
Mike

They don't have a good rebuttal.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

dtucker300 wrote:

Someone has a great sense of history. Well said.

The lefties will be here at any moment.

Mike the h**e comes from mostly ignorance and an outsider upsetting their applecart. Well too bad. I was always taught this is government by the people, for the people. I know it slips all too often, but it makes its way back.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Blade_Runner wrote:

I'll see your case of beer and raise you an ocean of tequila. The stakes are that you are full of s**t. There is not a modicum of t***h in anything you've said.

On December 5, 1994 the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, Britain and the United States signed a memorandum to provide Ukraine with security assurances in connection with its accession to the NPT as a non-nuclear weapon state. France and China also provided Ukraine with assurances similar to the Budapest Memorandum, but with some provisions.

In February 2014, in direct violation of the agreement, Russia invaded Ukraine and neither the Obama administration, the UK government, or anyone else did a damned thing to honor that agreement. They did not lift a finger.

We are in the middle of a media feeding frenzy over a supposed intelligence community whistleblower complaint on Trump’s conversation last summer with the Ukrainian president.

We know almost nothing about the complaint or the conversation, but that has not stopped a full-blown “we’ve got him now!” type joyfulness throughout the mainstream media and Never-Trump-land.

Lack of actual facts has not stopped Democrat candidates and various pundits from declaring that this is further ground for impeachment.

The initial claim was that Trump threatened to withhold aid to Ukraine if it didn’t investigate the business dealings of Joe Biden’s son, H****r B***n, while Joe was Vice President. Then the story changed, and maybe there wasn’t a quid pro quo, and maybe the whistleblower never actually heard the conversation. And so on and so on, a classic case of how the media tries and convicts Trump based on anonymous, shifting, and usually misinformed leaks.

The foreign minister of Ukraine is now on record that there was no pressure put on the Ukrainian president in the conversation.

We’ve been here, done that, dozens of times. Is this time different? Will they “get” Trump on this? As with the Russia Collusion claims, I’ll take it seriously when there is actual evidence. Until then, it’s just politically driven mischief masquerading as news.

As an aside, there is a pernicious effect to leaking conversations a U.S. president has with the leaders of foreign countries, something that has plagued Trump since the start of his administration. But that’s a post for another time.

There is an important story here that may take down a candidate. That candidate isn’t Donald Trump, it’s Joe Biden.

The Ukraine reports of possible influence peddling, along with a similar report regarding the Bidens’ dealings in China, have been reported in the past. It’s not new, but it never took hold in any media narrative because it’s not helpful in bringing down Trump, which is the measure of news value in the mainstream media these days.

But it has potential value to the media because of the claim of Trump misconduct in seeking a Ukrainian investigation of H****r B***n’s business dealings. So it’s all out media coverage.

That is a problem for Joe Biden, because most of the country is hearing about this for the first time, and the narrative quickly shifted — over media protests — from Trump allegedly improperly demanding an investigation to Joe and H****r B***n allegedly engaging in conduct that should be investigated.

The narrative shift is almost entirely the result of Trump taking to Twitter to defend himself.

I'll see your case of beer and raise you an ocean ... (show quote)

You're right. I'd like to share in that bet. I'll settle for a six-pack of beer but we both know we will never see it. All this hoopla about another big fat goose egg will probably knock Joe out of the race. He has the most to lose. Next up is Warren at the top of the field of c*******ts, er, I mean, uh, Democrats running for president.

The only way we will ever see an end to all this is for a Democrat to become President because, after all, this is their end game. Republicans don't know how to fight against an unfair opponent because the Democrats use despicable tactics; the end justifies the means.