yes it treason (Page 3): That has already been debunked. The person doesn't exist. Neither Lonewolf nor you will admit it. Biden & his son are the criminals. Biden boasted about the...

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

JediKnight wrote:

Lonewolf: Yes, I agree it is treasonous. Trump beg... (show quote)

That has already been debunked. The person doesn't exist. Neither Lonewolf nor you will admit it. Biden & his son are the criminals. Biden boasted about the shakedown.

Lonewolf

proud republican wrote:

He did not threatened to stop military aide to Ukraine!!!!

https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2019/09/report-trump-pressed-ukraine-president-to-investigate-bidens-son-but-didnt-propose-quid-pro-quo/

Yes he did one week befor the phone call

Carol Kelly

Lonewolf wrote:

YES, it is treason for god's sake. SCROTUS threatened to stop military assistance to Ukraine which is FIGHTING RUSSIA so he is HELPING RUSSIA. Pardon the caps but goddamn can you people see this?

Not doing any such thing. You have a very twisted mind. Grow up.

JediKnight

crazylibertarian wrote:

That has already been debunked. The person doesn't exist. Neither Lonewolf nor you will admit it. Biden & his son are the criminals. Biden boasted about the shakedown.

Oh really? Hmmm.....

Trump Admits Asking Ukraine to Investigate Biden's Son

https://www.thedailybeast.com › trump-admits-asking-ukraine-to-investigat…

Trump admits withholding aid to Ukraine while asking ...

https://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Americas › US politics

Cherokee38 Loc: Atlanta

Am I getting smarter or is Democrats showing their true intelligence??

Lonewolf

Carol Kelly wrote:

Not doing any such thing. You have a very twisted mind. Grow up.

hare listen to trump admit it

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/24/donald-trump-ukraine-military-aid-1509070

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Lonewolf wrote:

YES, it is treason for god's sake. SCROTUS threatened to stop military assistance to Ukraine which is FIGHTING RUSSIA so he is HELPING RUSSIA. Pardon the caps but goddamn can you people see this?

I see what you wrote, but don't understand it. Caps aren't the problem, I do that a lot myself.It's becoming a bit clearer. Think back to 2016 Ukraine tried to help Hillary. I'd be pissed if I were Trump. Whether or not he's helping Russia (I think not) it's his option. Actually I think it would be smart to help them.

JediKnight

Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:

I see what you wrote, but don't understand it. Caps aren't the problem, I do that a lot myself.It's becoming a bit clearer. Think back to 2016 Ukraine tried to help Hillary. I'd be pissed if I were Trump. Whether or not he's helping Russia (I think not) it's his option. Actually I think it would be smart to help them.

As a former US Navy combat veteran - I must say I am very glad that you are retired. I would h**e to think that someone with your viewpoint is in charge of our sailors. sad. indeed.

America 1 Loc: South Miami

Lonewolf wrote:

No the US is like a rudderless ship no known sain leader just a free playing pretend leader but his bone Spurs keep him linked to Kim and putin because they promise a cure!

Stop, about to die from laughter.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

JediKnight wrote:

Oh really? Hmmm.....

Trump Admits Asking Ukraine to Investigate Biden's Son

https://www.thedailybeast.com › trump-admits-asking-ukraine-to-investigat…

Trump admits withholding aid to Ukraine while asking ...

https://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Americas › US politics

He made that decision a week before the call. It is completely proper for him to make sure the money wasn't going into Ukraine's notorious corrupt sewer.

Lonewolf

crazylibertarian wrote:

He made that decision a week before the call. It is completely proper for him to make sure the money wasn't going into Ukraine's notorious corrupt sewer.

Lol

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

JediKnight wrote:

As a former US Navy combat veteran - I must say I am very glad that you are retired. I would h**e to think that someone with your viewpoint is in charge of our sailors. sad. indeed.

"a former US Navy combat veteran"?? What enemy did you fight? G*****l crabs after spending a liberty in a Singapore brothel?? Was urination painful?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

JediKnight wrote:

Oh really? Hmmm.....

Trump Admits Asking Ukraine to Investigate Biden's Son

https://www.thedailybeast.com › trump-admits-asking-ukraine-to-investigat…

Trump admits withholding aid to Ukraine while asking ...

https://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Americas › US politics

On December 5, 1994 the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, Britain and the United States signed a memorandum to provide Ukraine with security assurances in connection with its accession to the NPT as a non-nuclear weapon state. France and China also provided Ukraine with assurances similar to the Budapest Memorandum, but with some provisions.

In February 2014, in direct violation of the agreement, Russia invaded Ukraine and neither the Obama administration, the UK government, or anyone else did a damned thing to honor that agreement. They did not lift a finger.

We are in the middle of a media feeding frenzy over a supposed intelligence community whistleblower complaint on Trump’s conversation last summer with the Ukrainian president.

We know almost nothing about the complaint or the conversation, but that has not stopped a full-blown “we’ve got him now!” type joyfulness throughout the mainstream media and Never-Trump-land.

Lack of actual facts has not stopped Democrat candidates and various pundits from declaring that this is further ground for impeachment.

The initial claim was that Trump threatened to withhold aid to Ukraine if it didn’t investigate the business dealings of Joe Biden’s son, H****r B***n, while Joe was Vice President. Then the story changed, and maybe there wasn’t a quid pro quo, and maybe the whistleblower never actually heard the conversation. And so on and so on, a classic case of how the media tries and convicts Trump based on anonymous, shifting, and usually misinformed leaks.

The foreign minister of Ukraine is now on record that there was no pressure put on the Ukrainian president in the conversation.

We’ve been here, done that, dozens of times. Is this time different? Will they “get” Trump on this? As with the Russia Collusion claims, I’ll take it seriously when there is actual evidence. Until then, it’s just politically driven mischief masquerading as news.

As an aside, there is a pernicious effect to leaking conversations a U.S. president has with the leaders of foreign countries, something that has plagued Trump since the start of his administration. But that’s a post for another time.

There is an important story here that may take down a candidate. That candidate isn’t Donald Trump, it’s Joe Biden.

The Ukraine reports of possible influence peddling, along with a similar report regarding the Bidens’ dealings in China, have been reported in the past. It’s not new, but it never took hold in any media narrative because it’s not helpful in bringing down Trump, which is the measure of news value in the mainstream media these days.

But it has potential value to the media because of the claim of Trump misconduct in seeking a Ukrainian investigation of H****r B***n’s business dealings. So it’s all out media coverage.

That is a problem for Joe Biden, because most of the country is hearing about this for the first time, and the narrative quickly shifted — over media protests — from Trump allegedly improperly demanding an investigation to Joe and H****r B***n allegedly engaging in conduct that should be investigated.

The narrative shift is almost entirely the result of Trump taking to Twitter to defend himself.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

Lonewolf wrote:

Lol

The t***h hurts!

Louis

Lonewolf wrote:

YES, it is treason for god's sake. SCROTUS threatened to stop military assistance to Ukraine which is FIGHTING RUSSIA so he is HELPING RUSSIA. Pardon the caps but goddamn can you people see this?

You don't even, as usual, have any idea what was said between the two leaders and here you go shooting off your mouth like you were standing right there in the room listening in on a speakerphone. Don't you ever get tired of just making stuff up? You are one of the top five liars on OPP.