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Sep 22, 2019 17:31:16   #
Squiddiddler Loc: Phoenix
 
Let's pray that he gets them.
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Trump Has Become the Democrats’ Great White Whale

By Victor David Hanson


One way of envisioning the Democratic obsessions with Donald Trump is as an addiction.
We have seen the initial impeachment efforts; the attempt to get him under the emoluments clause, the Logan Act and the 25th Amendment; the Russian collusion h**x; the Mueller investigation; the demand for his tax returns; and the psychodramas involving Michael Avenatti, Michael Cohen, and Stormy Daniels.
Relentless progressives have needed a new Get Trump fix about every two months.
More practically, their fixation also substitutes for a collective poverty of ideas. The Democratic Party has no plan to secure the borders other than to be against wh**ever Trump is for.
The liberal Left continue to push their radical agenda against American values. The good news is there is a solution.
It would not build a wall, deport illegal entrants, end sanctuary cities, fine employers, or do much of anything but allow almost anyone to enter the U.S.
The homeless crisis is reaching epidemic proportions in our cities, almost all of them run by progressive mayors and city councils. None have any workable plan to clean the sidewalks of needles and human excrement.
None know what to do with the hundreds of thousands who have camped out in public spaces, endangering their own health and everyone around them due to drug addiction and inadequate sanitation and waste removal.
On a******n, the new Democratic position seems to be that the unborn can be aborted at any time the mother chooses, up to and including the moment of birth.
The Green New Deal has been endorsed by most of the current Democratic primary candidates, even though they privately know its utopian fantasies would shut down the U.S. economy and destroy the present prosperity fueled by record energy production, deregulation, and tax reform and reduction.
Abroad, were Democrats for or against abrogating the Iran nuclear deal, moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and prodding China to follow reciprocal trade rules?
How do they propose to deal with North Korean nuclear-tipped missiles that seemed to suddenly appear as Barack Obama left office?
Have Democrats proposed canceling the new pipeline construction that Trump has fast-tracked? Would they scale way back on the natural gas and oil production that has made America energy-independent and on the cusp of becoming the world’s greatest energy exporter?
Democrats have occasionally talked of implementing r********ns for s***ery, a wealth tax and free college tuition, and of eliminating college debt, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the E*******l College.
Yet they have never spelled out exactly how they would enact such radical proposals that likely do not appeal to a majority of the population.
Would they reverse Trump tax cuts, stop hectoring NATO members to pay their promised defense contributions, restore NAFTA, or revive the T***s-Pacific Partnership trade agreement?
For now, no one has much of an idea what Democratic candidates would actually do, much less how they would do it.
Instead, the fallback position is always that “Trump stole the 2016 e******n,” “the Mueller report did not really exonerate Trump of collusion and obstruction,” and “Trump must be impeached or somehow stopped from finishing his first term.”
When the Mueller report found no collusion and no indictable grounds for obstruction of the non-crime of collusion, for a moment progressives suffered an identity crisis.
The temporary paralysis was prompted by the terror that without a crusade to remove Trump, they might have to offer an alternative vision and agenda that would better appeal to 2020 v**ers.
The Democratic establishment has become something like novelist Herman Melville’s phobic Captain Ahab, who became fatally absorbed with chasing his nemesis, the albino whale Moby Dick.
The great white whale once ate part of Ahab’s leg, and he demands revenge—even if such a never-ending neurosis leads to the destruction of his ship and crew.
Democrats can never forgive Trump for unexpectedly defeating supposed sure winner Hillary Clinton in 2016 and then systematically—and loudly—undoing the eight-year agenda of Obama.
So far, Trump seems to have escaped all of their efforts to spear and remove him before the 2020 e******n. Trump, like Moby Dick, seems a weird force of nature whose wounds from constant attacks only seem to make him more indestructible and his attackers even more obsessed with their prey.
Even if the quest to destroy Trump eclipses every other consideration and entails the destruction of the modern Democratic Party, it seems not to matter to these modern Ahabs.
Getting Trump is all they live for—and all they have left.
(C) 2019 TRIBUNE CONTENT AGENCY, LLC.

America’s trust in the mainstream media is at a historic low—and rightfully so, given the behavior of many journalists in Washington, D.C. and across the country.
Ever since Donald Trump was elected president, it’s been painfully clear that the mainstream media covers liberals glowingly and conservatives critically.
Why? Because they are determined more than ever to give the government more control over your lives. Restoring your liberty and embracing freedom is the best thing for you and the country.

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Sep 22, 2019 18:21:39   #
ImLogicallyRight
 
That was a great summation of a lot of what is happening in America today. And so true.

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Sep 22, 2019 18:25:56   #
Carol Kelly
 
Squiddiddler wrote:
Let's pray that he gets them.
---------------------------------------------


Trump Has Become the Democrats’ Great White Whale

By Victor David Hanson


One way of envisioning the Democratic obsessions with Donald Trump is as an addiction.
We have seen the initial impeachment efforts; the attempt to get him under the emoluments clause, the Logan Act and the 25th Amendment; the Russian collusion h**x; the Mueller investigation; the demand for his tax returns; and the psychodramas involving Michael Avenatti, Michael Cohen, and Stormy Daniels.
Relentless progressives have needed a new Get Trump fix about every two months.
More practically, their fixation also substitutes for a collective poverty of ideas. The Democratic Party has no plan to secure the borders other than to be against wh**ever Trump is for.
The liberal Left continue to push their radical agenda against American values. The good news is there is a solution.
It would not build a wall, deport illegal entrants, end sanctuary cities, fine employers, or do much of anything but allow almost anyone to enter the U.S.
The homeless crisis is reaching epidemic proportions in our cities, almost all of them run by progressive mayors and city councils. None have any workable plan to clean the sidewalks of needles and human excrement.
None know what to do with the hundreds of thousands who have camped out in public spaces, endangering their own health and everyone around them due to drug addiction and inadequate sanitation and waste removal.
On a******n, the new Democratic position seems to be that the unborn can be aborted at any time the mother chooses, up to and including the moment of birth.
The Green New Deal has been endorsed by most of the current Democratic primary candidates, even though they privately know its utopian fantasies would shut down the U.S. economy and destroy the present prosperity fueled by record energy production, deregulation, and tax reform and reduction.
Abroad, were Democrats for or against abrogating the Iran nuclear deal, moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and prodding China to follow reciprocal trade rules?
How do they propose to deal with North Korean nuclear-tipped missiles that seemed to suddenly appear as Barack Obama left office?
Have Democrats proposed canceling the new pipeline construction that Trump has fast-tracked? Would they scale way back on the natural gas and oil production that has made America energy-independent and on the cusp of becoming the world’s greatest energy exporter?
Democrats have occasionally talked of implementing r********ns for s***ery, a wealth tax and free college tuition, and of eliminating college debt, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the E*******l College.
Yet they have never spelled out exactly how they would enact such radical proposals that likely do not appeal to a majority of the population.
Would they reverse Trump tax cuts, stop hectoring NATO members to pay their promised defense contributions, restore NAFTA, or revive the T***s-Pacific Partnership trade agreement?
For now, no one has much of an idea what Democratic candidates would actually do, much less how they would do it.
Instead, the fallback position is always that “Trump stole the 2016 e******n,” “the Mueller report did not really exonerate Trump of collusion and obstruction,” and “Trump must be impeached or somehow stopped from finishing his first term.”
When the Mueller report found no collusion and no indictable grounds for obstruction of the non-crime of collusion, for a moment progressives suffered an identity crisis.
The temporary paralysis was prompted by the terror that without a crusade to remove Trump, they might have to offer an alternative vision and agenda that would better appeal to 2020 v**ers.
The Democratic establishment has become something like novelist Herman Melville’s phobic Captain Ahab, who became fatally absorbed with chasing his nemesis, the albino whale Moby Dick.
The great white whale once ate part of Ahab’s leg, and he demands revenge—even if such a never-ending neurosis leads to the destruction of his ship and crew.
Democrats can never forgive Trump for unexpectedly defeating supposed sure winner Hillary Clinton in 2016 and then systematically—and loudly—undoing the eight-year agenda of Obama.
So far, Trump seems to have escaped all of their efforts to spear and remove him before the 2020 e******n. Trump, like Moby Dick, seems a weird force of nature whose wounds from constant attacks only seem to make him more indestructible and his attackers even more obsessed with their prey.
Even if the quest to destroy Trump eclipses every other consideration and entails the destruction of the modern Democratic Party, it seems not to matter to these modern Ahabs.
Getting Trump is all they live for—and all they have left.
(C) 2019 TRIBUNE CONTENT AGENCY, LLC.

America’s trust in the mainstream media is at a historic low—and rightfully so, given the behavior of many journalists in Washington, D.C. and across the country.
Ever since Donald Trump was elected president, it’s been painfully clear that the mainstream media covers liberals glowingly and conservatives critically.
Why? Because they are determined more than ever to give the government more control over your lives. Restoring your liberty and embracing freedom is the best thing for you and the country.
Let's pray that he gets them. br -----------------... (show quote)



We would not have won WWII if we’d had MSNBC and the rest of the alphabet media.
We had Ernie Pyle and to end it all, we had Harry S Truman, the only good Democrat.
Fight for our freedoms however it’s necessary. Great piece. Remember the Alamo.

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Sep 22, 2019 18:43:09   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Squiddiddler wrote:
Let's pray that he gets them.
---------------------------------------------


Trump Has Become the Democrats’ Great White Whale

By Victor David Hanson


One way of envisioning the Democratic obsessions with Donald Trump is as an addiction.
We have seen the initial impeachment efforts; the attempt to get him under the emoluments clause, the Logan Act and the 25th Amendment; the Russian collusion h**x; the Mueller investigation; the demand for his tax returns; and the psychodramas involving Michael Avenatti, Michael Cohen, and Stormy Daniels.
Relentless progressives have needed a new Get Trump fix about every two months.
More practically, their fixation also substitutes for a collective poverty of ideas. The Democratic Party has no plan to secure the borders other than to be against wh**ever Trump is for.
The liberal Left continue to push their radical agenda against American values. The good news is there is a solution.
It would not build a wall, deport illegal entrants, end sanctuary cities, fine employers, or do much of anything but allow almost anyone to enter the U.S.
The homeless crisis is reaching epidemic proportions in our cities, almost all of them run by progressive mayors and city councils. None have any workable plan to clean the sidewalks of needles and human excrement.
None know what to do with the hundreds of thousands who have camped out in public spaces, endangering their own health and everyone around them due to drug addiction and inadequate sanitation and waste removal.
On a******n, the new Democratic position seems to be that the unborn can be aborted at any time the mother chooses, up to and including the moment of birth.
The Green New Deal has been endorsed by most of the current Democratic primary candidates, even though they privately know its utopian fantasies would shut down the U.S. economy and destroy the present prosperity fueled by record energy production, deregulation, and tax reform and reduction.
Abroad, were Democrats for or against abrogating the Iran nuclear deal, moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and prodding China to follow reciprocal trade rules?
How do they propose to deal with North Korean nuclear-tipped missiles that seemed to suddenly appear as Barack Obama left office?
Have Democrats proposed canceling the new pipeline construction that Trump has fast-tracked? Would they scale way back on the natural gas and oil production that has made America energy-independent and on the cusp of becoming the world’s greatest energy exporter?
Democrats have occasionally talked of implementing r********ns for s***ery, a wealth tax and free college tuition, and of eliminating college debt, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the E*******l College.
Yet they have never spelled out exactly how they would enact such radical proposals that likely do not appeal to a majority of the population.
Would they reverse Trump tax cuts, stop hectoring NATO members to pay their promised defense contributions, restore NAFTA, or revive the T***s-Pacific Partnership trade agreement?
For now, no one has much of an idea what Democratic candidates would actually do, much less how they would do it.
Instead, the fallback position is always that “Trump stole the 2016 e******n,” “the Mueller report did not really exonerate Trump of collusion and obstruction,” and “Trump must be impeached or somehow stopped from finishing his first term.”
When the Mueller report found no collusion and no indictable grounds for obstruction of the non-crime of collusion, for a moment progressives suffered an identity crisis.
The temporary paralysis was prompted by the terror that without a crusade to remove Trump, they might have to offer an alternative vision and agenda that would better appeal to 2020 v**ers.
The Democratic establishment has become something like novelist Herman Melville’s phobic Captain Ahab, who became fatally absorbed with chasing his nemesis, the albino whale Moby Dick.
The great white whale once ate part of Ahab’s leg, and he demands revenge—even if such a never-ending neurosis leads to the destruction of his ship and crew.
Democrats can never forgive Trump for unexpectedly defeating supposed sure winner Hillary Clinton in 2016 and then systematically—and loudly—undoing the eight-year agenda of Obama.
So far, Trump seems to have escaped all of their efforts to spear and remove him before the 2020 e******n. Trump, like Moby Dick, seems a weird force of nature whose wounds from constant attacks only seem to make him more indestructible and his attackers even more obsessed with their prey.
Even if the quest to destroy Trump eclipses every other consideration and entails the destruction of the modern Democratic Party, it seems not to matter to these modern Ahabs.
Getting Trump is all they live for—and all they have left.
(C) 2019 TRIBUNE CONTENT AGENCY, LLC.

America’s trust in the mainstream media is at a historic low—and rightfully so, given the behavior of many journalists in Washington, D.C. and across the country.
Ever since Donald Trump was elected president, it’s been painfully clear that the mainstream media covers liberals glowingly and conservatives critically.
Why? Because they are determined more than ever to give the government more control over your lives. Restoring your liberty and embracing freedom is the best thing for you and the country.
Let's pray that he gets them. br -----------------... (show quote)


Are you saying Moby Dick wasn't a nutter or Trump is a nutter ? I'm confused.

Certainly the Topic for discussion indicates that the Great White Whale is actually the Great Red Herring of C*******m which is now a spent force dead love letter, interestingly enough though, a real red herring is a dead fish turned red by the smoke used to dry it.

Ones real ones not.

Trump is going after the Reds making the same mistake as the W****s, this is true story, the W****s lost the Civil War because they wanted to give the land back to the Feudal Lords, the land reform of 1861 made Surfdom illegal there was enormous push back the W****s supported that push back which turned out to be Religious smoke and mirrors, which is why the Peasants supported the Bolsheviks and Religion became the opium of the people.

I'm not sure if this is what your Great White Whale analogue was referring too because there was no leader of the White armies and the only thing they could agree on was that the Lords should rest and the Peasants work.

Trump is the leader and is not saying Lords rest while Peasants work, but Bernie Sanders is not saying it better.

Furthermore I think the Democrats are coming on board with Bernie because they seem to be shafting Biden with the Ukraune story, good job, Biden and H****r are totally corrupt.


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Sep 22, 2019 19:15:27   #
son of witless
 
RT friend wrote:
Are you saying Moby Dick wasn't a nutter or Trump is a nutter ? I'm confused.

Certainly the Topic for discussion indicates that the Great White Whale is actually the Great Red Herring of C*******m which is now a spent force dead love letter, interestingly enough though, a real red herring is a dead fish turned red by the smoke used to dry it.

Ones real ones not.

Trump is going after the Reds making the same mistake as the W****s, this is true story, the W****s lost the Civil War because they wanted to give the land back to the Feudal Lords, the land reform of 1861 made Surfdom illegal there was enormous push back the W****s supported that push back which turned out to be Religious smoke and mirrors, which is why the Peasants supported the Bolsheviks and Religion became the opium of the people.

I'm not sure if this is what your Great White Whale analogue was referring too because there was no leader of the White armies and the only thing they could agree on was that the Lords should rest and the Peasants work.

Trump is the leader and is not saying Lords rest while Peasants work, but Bernie Sanders is not saying it better.

Furthermore I think the Democrats are coming on board with Bernie because they seem to be shafting Biden with the Ukraune story, good job, Biden and H****r are totally corrupt.

Are you saying Moby Dick wasn't a nutter or Trump ... (show quote)


I do not know, but I am guessing that you never bothered to read Moby Dick. Victor David Hanson's analogy of Captain Ahab's obsession with Moby Dick and the Democrat Establishment's obsession with President Trump is spot on.

Medical science in the 19th century was not all that advanced. I am going from memory, but as I remember the book, after Moby Dick bit off Ahab's leg, he spent months suffering in the bowels of a rolling stinking wooden sailing ship, fighting for his life. That pain and suffering left insanity, and an overwhelming need to avenge himself at any cost on the White Whale. It later cost the lives of every man on his ship, save one, and it cost the ship.

When Hillary lost the 2016 e******n, Liberals spent months in deep suffering. Add in the 2 year Mueller investigation farce and I would imagine the pain and suffering left plenty of insanity. Like Captain Ahab, they will pay any price to destroy the object of their h**e.

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Sep 22, 2019 19:21:36   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Squiddiddler wrote:
Let's pray that he gets them.
---------------------------------------------


Trump Has Become the Democrats’ Great White Whale

By Victor David Hanson


One way of envisioning the Democratic obsessions with Donald Trump is as an addiction.
We have seen the initial impeachment efforts; the attempt to get him under the emoluments clause, the Logan Act and the 25th Amendment; the Russian collusion h**x; the Mueller investigation; the demand for his tax returns; and the psychodramas involving Michael Avenatti, Michael Cohen, and Stormy Daniels.
Relentless progressives have needed a new Get Trump fix about every two months.
More practically, their fixation also substitutes for a collective poverty of ideas. The Democratic Party has no plan to secure the borders other than to be against wh**ever Trump is for.
The liberal Left continue to push their radical agenda against American values. The good news is there is a solution.
It would not build a wall, deport illegal entrants, end sanctuary cities, fine employers, or do much of anything but allow almost anyone to enter the U.S.
The homeless crisis is reaching epidemic proportions in our cities, almost all of them run by progressive mayors and city councils. None have any workable plan to clean the sidewalks of needles and human excrement.
None know what to do with the hundreds of thousands who have camped out in public spaces, endangering their own health and everyone around them due to drug addiction and inadequate sanitation and waste removal.
On a******n, the new Democratic position seems to be that the unborn can be aborted at any time the mother chooses, up to and including the moment of birth.
The Green New Deal has been endorsed by most of the current Democratic primary candidates, even though they privately know its utopian fantasies would shut down the U.S. economy and destroy the present prosperity fueled by record energy production, deregulation, and tax reform and reduction.
Abroad, were Democrats for or against abrogating the Iran nuclear deal, moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and prodding China to follow reciprocal trade rules?
How do they propose to deal with North Korean nuclear-tipped missiles that seemed to suddenly appear as Barack Obama left office?
Have Democrats proposed canceling the new pipeline construction that Trump has fast-tracked? Would they scale way back on the natural gas and oil production that has made America energy-independent and on the cusp of becoming the world’s greatest energy exporter?
Democrats have occasionally talked of implementing r********ns for s***ery, a wealth tax and free college tuition, and of eliminating college debt, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the E*******l College.
Yet they have never spelled out exactly how they would enact such radical proposals that likely do not appeal to a majority of the population.
Would they reverse Trump tax cuts, stop hectoring NATO members to pay their promised defense contributions, restore NAFTA, or revive the T***s-Pacific Partnership trade agreement?
For now, no one has much of an idea what Democratic candidates would actually do, much less how they would do it.
Instead, the fallback position is always that “Trump stole the 2016 e******n,” “the Mueller report did not really exonerate Trump of collusion and obstruction,” and “Trump must be impeached or somehow stopped from finishing his first term.”
When the Mueller report found no collusion and no indictable grounds for obstruction of the non-crime of collusion, for a moment progressives suffered an identity crisis.
The temporary paralysis was prompted by the terror that without a crusade to remove Trump, they might have to offer an alternative vision and agenda that would better appeal to 2020 v**ers.
The Democratic establishment has become something like novelist Herman Melville’s phobic Captain Ahab, who became fatally absorbed with chasing his nemesis, the albino whale Moby Dick.
The great white whale once ate part of Ahab’s leg, and he demands revenge—even if such a never-ending neurosis leads to the destruction of his ship and crew.
Democrats can never forgive Trump for unexpectedly defeating supposed sure winner Hillary Clinton in 2016 and then systematically—and loudly—undoing the eight-year agenda of Obama.
So far, Trump seems to have escaped all of their efforts to spear and remove him before the 2020 e******n. Trump, like Moby Dick, seems a weird force of nature whose wounds from constant attacks only seem to make him more indestructible and his attackers even more obsessed with their prey.
Even if the quest to destroy Trump eclipses every other consideration and entails the destruction of the modern Democratic Party, it seems not to matter to these modern Ahabs.
Getting Trump is all they live for—and all they have left.
(C) 2019 TRIBUNE CONTENT AGENCY, LLC.

America’s trust in the mainstream media is at a historic low—and rightfully so, given the behavior of many journalists in Washington, D.C. and across the country.
Ever since Donald Trump was elected president, it’s been painfully clear that the mainstream media covers liberals glowingly and conservatives critically.
Why? Because they are determined more than ever to give the government more control over your lives. Restoring your liberty and embracing freedom is the best thing for you and the country.
Let's pray that he gets them. br -----------------... (show quote)


All they have to do is let Trump be Trump and he'll set his own self on fire.

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Sep 22, 2019 19:45:12   #
Carol Kelly
 
lpnmajor wrote:
All they have to do is let Trump be Trump and he'll set his own self on fire.


You quite often shock me.

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Sep 22, 2019 23:17:37   #
debeda
 
RT friend wrote:
Are you saying Moby Dick wasn't a nutter or Trump is a nutter ? I'm confused.

Certainly the Topic for discussion indicates that the Great White Whale is actually the Great Red Herring of C*******m which is now a spent force dead love letter, interestingly enough though, a real red herring is a dead fish turned red by the smoke used to dry it.

Ones real ones not.

Trump is going after the Reds making the same mistake as the W****s, this is true story, the W****s lost the Civil War because they wanted to give the land back to the Feudal Lords, the land reform of 1861 made Surfdom illegal there was enormous push back the W****s supported that push back which turned out to be Religious smoke and mirrors, which is why the Peasants supported the Bolsheviks and Religion became the opium of the people.

I'm not sure if this is what your Great White Whale analogue was referring too because there was no leader of the White armies and the only thing they could agree on was that the Lords should rest and the Peasants work.

Trump is the leader and is not saying Lords rest while Peasants work, but Bernie Sanders is not saying it better.

Furthermore I think the Democrats are coming on board with Bernie because they seem to be shafting Biden with the Ukraune story, good job, Biden and H****r are totally corrupt.

Are you saying Moby Dick wasn't a nutter or Trump ... (show quote)


Captain Ahab lost his ship, his crew and his life in his obsession to bag Moby Dick. Maybe you skipped the book???

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Sep 23, 2019 00:47:34   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
son of witless wrote:
I do not know, but I am guessing that you never bothered to read Moby Dick. Victor David Hanson's analogy of Captain Ahab's obsession with Moby Dick and the Democrat Establishment's obsession with President Trump is spot on.

Medical science in the 19th century was not all that advanced. I am going from memory, but as I remember the book, after Moby Dick bit off Ahab's leg, he spent months suffering in the bowels of a rolling stinking wooden sailing ship, fighting for his life. That pain and suffering left insanity, and an overwhelming need to avenge himself at any cost on the White Whale. It later cost the lives of every man on his ship, save one, and it cost the ship.

When Hillary lost the 2016 e******n, Liberals spent months in deep suffering. Add in the 2 year Mueller investigation farce and I would imagine the pain and suffering left plenty of insanity. Like Captain Ahab, they will pay any price to destroy the object of their h**e.
I do not know, but I am guessing that you never bo... (show quote)


A lot of assumptions taken for granted in that analogy, I was familiar with the story of Moby Dick when I read your topic and I sort of knew that the politics behind Hanson's Moby Dick analogy would be a black and white presentation.

I didn't figure it worth reading, and just wanted to watch who jumped on and why, but since I got a reply I read it in the "National Review" and it is what I expected.

Technically the motivation of the Democrats can't be simply a vendetta because of the bipartisan nature of Trumps policies and also Democrats have won 7 times since FDR and Republicans have also won 7, so it's Democrats turn 2020, although extra weeping is showing itself as unbalanced perhaps a smidgen under psycho perhaps not.

Trump went one better and offered an alternative based on other than race or sex which the Democrats willingly brokered in Hillary and Obama.

But t don't think that made much difference, the Democrats are split between old establishment and Anarchist type Libertarians causing paranoia.

Foreign Policy has alarmed the Democrat camp, the Democrats caused the Vietnam War and the Republicans caused Iraq and Afghanistan Wars, so that's about even too but I think Democrat compulsive behaviours are genuine concerns, their wounded but the War causing the wounds hasn't yet started.

I think Trump is using ideas that Democrats care about in a way that brashness hurts and decisiveness doesn't.

Democrats just sense failure and have panic attacks based on a lack of trust in Trump, or did I just make that one up ?.

Only us historical purists are worried about the The Great White Whale becoming a Red Herring in real time after leaving "once upon a time " Democrats are philistine.

Dems are more wrong headedness rather than vengence, although Trump could be a hero at home get made up into a few statutes all because of unintended consequences.
thanks for the reply it was tough going but I think I got there.

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Sep 23, 2019 11:01:28   #
bahmer
 
Squiddiddler wrote:
Let's pray that he gets them.
---------------------------------------------


Trump Has Become the Democrats’ Great White Whale

By Victor David Hanson


One way of envisioning the Democratic obsessions with Donald Trump is as an addiction.
We have seen the initial impeachment efforts; the attempt to get him under the emoluments clause, the Logan Act and the 25th Amendment; the Russian collusion h**x; the Mueller investigation; the demand for his tax returns; and the psychodramas involving Michael Avenatti, Michael Cohen, and Stormy Daniels.
Relentless progressives have needed a new Get Trump fix about every two months.
More practically, their fixation also substitutes for a collective poverty of ideas. The Democratic Party has no plan to secure the borders other than to be against wh**ever Trump is for.
The liberal Left continue to push their radical agenda against American values. The good news is there is a solution.
It would not build a wall, deport illegal entrants, end sanctuary cities, fine employers, or do much of anything but allow almost anyone to enter the U.S.
The homeless crisis is reaching epidemic proportions in our cities, almost all of them run by progressive mayors and city councils. None have any workable plan to clean the sidewalks of needles and human excrement.
None know what to do with the hundreds of thousands who have camped out in public spaces, endangering their own health and everyone around them due to drug addiction and inadequate sanitation and waste removal.
On a******n, the new Democratic position seems to be that the unborn can be aborted at any time the mother chooses, up to and including the moment of birth.
The Green New Deal has been endorsed by most of the current Democratic primary candidates, even though they privately know its utopian fantasies would shut down the U.S. economy and destroy the present prosperity fueled by record energy production, deregulation, and tax reform and reduction.
Abroad, were Democrats for or against abrogating the Iran nuclear deal, moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and prodding China to follow reciprocal trade rules?
How do they propose to deal with North Korean nuclear-tipped missiles that seemed to suddenly appear as Barack Obama left office?
Have Democrats proposed canceling the new pipeline construction that Trump has fast-tracked? Would they scale way back on the natural gas and oil production that has made America energy-independent and on the cusp of becoming the world’s greatest energy exporter?
Democrats have occasionally talked of implementing r********ns for s***ery, a wealth tax and free college tuition, and of eliminating college debt, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the E*******l College.
Yet they have never spelled out exactly how they would enact such radical proposals that likely do not appeal to a majority of the population.
Would they reverse Trump tax cuts, stop hectoring NATO members to pay their promised defense contributions, restore NAFTA, or revive the T***s-Pacific Partnership trade agreement?
For now, no one has much of an idea what Democratic candidates would actually do, much less how they would do it.
Instead, the fallback position is always that “Trump stole the 2016 e******n,” “the Mueller report did not really exonerate Trump of collusion and obstruction,” and “Trump must be impeached or somehow stopped from finishing his first term.”
When the Mueller report found no collusion and no indictable grounds for obstruction of the non-crime of collusion, for a moment progressives suffered an identity crisis.
The temporary paralysis was prompted by the terror that without a crusade to remove Trump, they might have to offer an alternative vision and agenda that would better appeal to 2020 v**ers.
The Democratic establishment has become something like novelist Herman Melville’s phobic Captain Ahab, who became fatally absorbed with chasing his nemesis, the albino whale Moby Dick.
The great white whale once ate part of Ahab’s leg, and he demands revenge—even if such a never-ending neurosis leads to the destruction of his ship and crew.
Democrats can never forgive Trump for unexpectedly defeating supposed sure winner Hillary Clinton in 2016 and then systematically—and loudly—undoing the eight-year agenda of Obama.
So far, Trump seems to have escaped all of their efforts to spear and remove him before the 2020 e******n. Trump, like Moby Dick, seems a weird force of nature whose wounds from constant attacks only seem to make him more indestructible and his attackers even more obsessed with their prey.
Even if the quest to destroy Trump eclipses every other consideration and entails the destruction of the modern Democratic Party, it seems not to matter to these modern Ahabs.
Getting Trump is all they live for—and all they have left.
(C) 2019 TRIBUNE CONTENT AGENCY, LLC.

America’s trust in the mainstream media is at a historic low—and rightfully so, given the behavior of many journalists in Washington, D.C. and across the country.
Ever since Donald Trump was elected president, it’s been painfully clear that the mainstream media covers liberals glowingly and conservatives critically.
Why? Because they are determined more than ever to give the government more control over your lives. Restoring your liberty and embracing freedom is the best thing for you and the country.
Let's pray that he gets them. br -----------------... (show quote)


Very good summation of the democrat party of today and they have nothing to offer the people of the USA and they know it but yet they persist to their destruction.

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Sep 23, 2019 16:54:23   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
Squiddiddler wrote:
Let's pray that he gets them.
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Trump Has Become the Democrats’ Great White Whale

By Victor David Hanson


One way of envisioning the Democratic obsessions with Donald Trump is as an addiction.
We have seen the initial impeachment efforts; the attempt to get him under the emoluments clause, the Logan Act and the 25th Amendment; the Russian collusion h**x; the Mueller investigation; the demand for his tax returns; and the psychodramas involving Michael Avenatti, Michael Cohen, and Stormy Daniels.
Relentless progressives have needed a new Get Trump fix about every two months.
More practically, their fixation also substitutes for a collective poverty of ideas. The Democratic Party has no plan to secure the borders other than to be against wh**ever Trump is for.
The liberal Left continue to push their radical agenda against American values. The good news is there is a solution.
It would not build a wall, deport illegal entrants, end sanctuary cities, fine employers, or do much of anything but allow almost anyone to enter the U.S.
The homeless crisis is reaching epidemic proportions in our cities, almost all of them run by progressive mayors and city councils. None have any workable plan to clean the sidewalks of needles and human excrement.
None know what to do with the hundreds of thousands who have camped out in public spaces, endangering their own health and everyone around them due to drug addiction and inadequate sanitation and waste removal.
On a******n, the new Democratic position seems to be that the unborn can be aborted at any time the mother chooses, up to and including the moment of birth.
The Green New Deal has been endorsed by most of the current Democratic primary candidates, even though they privately know its utopian fantasies would shut down the U.S. economy and destroy the present prosperity fueled by record energy production, deregulation, and tax reform and reduction.
Abroad, were Democrats for or against abrogating the Iran nuclear deal, moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and prodding China to follow reciprocal trade rules?
How do they propose to deal with North Korean nuclear-tipped missiles that seemed to suddenly appear as Barack Obama left office?
Have Democrats proposed canceling the new pipeline construction that Trump has fast-tracked? Would they scale way back on the natural gas and oil production that has made America energy-independent and on the cusp of becoming the world’s greatest energy exporter?
Democrats have occasionally talked of implementing r********ns for s***ery, a wealth tax and free college tuition, and of eliminating college debt, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the E*******l College.
Yet they have never spelled out exactly how they would enact such radical proposals that likely do not appeal to a majority of the population.
Would they reverse Trump tax cuts, stop hectoring NATO members to pay their promised defense contributions, restore NAFTA, or revive the T***s-Pacific Partnership trade agreement?
For now, no one has much of an idea what Democratic candidates would actually do, much less how they would do it.
Instead, the fallback position is always that “Trump stole the 2016 e******n,” “the Mueller report did not really exonerate Trump of collusion and obstruction,” and “Trump must be impeached or somehow stopped from finishing his first term.”
When the Mueller report found no collusion and no indictable grounds for obstruction of the non-crime of collusion, for a moment progressives suffered an identity crisis.
The temporary paralysis was prompted by the terror that without a crusade to remove Trump, they might have to offer an alternative vision and agenda that would better appeal to 2020 v**ers.
The Democratic establishment has become something like novelist Herman Melville’s phobic Captain Ahab, who became fatally absorbed with chasing his nemesis, the albino whale Moby Dick.
The great white whale once ate part of Ahab’s leg, and he demands revenge—even if such a never-ending neurosis leads to the destruction of his ship and crew.
Democrats can never forgive Trump for unexpectedly defeating supposed sure winner Hillary Clinton in 2016 and then systematically—and loudly—undoing the eight-year agenda of Obama.
So far, Trump seems to have escaped all of their efforts to spear and remove him before the 2020 e******n. Trump, like Moby Dick, seems a weird force of nature whose wounds from constant attacks only seem to make him more indestructible and his attackers even more obsessed with their prey.
Even if the quest to destroy Trump eclipses every other consideration and entails the destruction of the modern Democratic Party, it seems not to matter to these modern Ahabs.
Getting Trump is all they live for—and all they have left.
(C) 2019 TRIBUNE CONTENT AGENCY, LLC.

America’s trust in the mainstream media is at a historic low—and rightfully so, given the behavior of many journalists in Washington, D.C. and across the country.
Ever since Donald Trump was elected president, it’s been painfully clear that the mainstream media covers liberals glowingly and conservatives critically.
Why? Because they are determined more than ever to give the government more control over your lives. Restoring your liberty and embracing freedom is the best thing for you and the country.
Let's pray that he gets them. br -----------------... (show quote)


Herman Mellville's classic was still a better read than the Democrats never-ending tall tales of Russia collusion and obstruction is more laughable then something out of Mad Magazine. Oh the fairy tales they weave. Who knew their childhood stories would come true off the of their heads lol.

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Sep 23, 2019 20:00:04   #
son of witless
 
RT friend wrote:
A lot of assumptions taken for granted in that analogy, I was familiar with the story of Moby Dick when I read your topic and I sort of knew that the politics behind Hanson's Moby Dick analogy would be a black and white presentation.

I didn't figure it worth reading, and just wanted to watch who jumped on and why, but since I got a reply I read it in the "National Review" and it is what I expected.

Technically the motivation of the Democrats can't be simply a vendetta because of the bipartisan nature of Trumps policies and also Democrats have won 7 times since FDR and Republicans have also won 7, so it's Democrats turn 2020, although extra weeping is showing itself as unbalanced perhaps a smidgen under psycho perhaps not.

Trump went one better and offered an alternative based on other than race or sex which the Democrats willingly brokered in Hillary and Obama.

But t don't think that made much difference, the Democrats are split between old establishment and Anarchist type Libertarians causing paranoia.

Foreign Policy has alarmed the Democrat camp, the Democrats caused the Vietnam War and the Republicans caused Iraq and Afghanistan Wars, so that's about even too but I think Democrat compulsive behaviours are genuine concerns, their wounded but the War causing the wounds hasn't yet started.

I think Trump is using ideas that Democrats care about in a way that brashness hurts and decisiveness doesn't.

Democrats just sense failure and have panic attacks based on a lack of trust in Trump, or did I just make that one up ?.

Only us historical purists are worried about the The Great White Whale becoming a Red Herring in real time after leaving "once upon a time " Democrats are philistine.

Dems are more wrong headedness rather than vengence, although Trump could be a hero at home get made up into a few statutes all because of unintended consequences.
thanks for the reply it was tough going but I think I got there.
A lot of assumptions taken for granted in that ana... (show quote)


As much as I disagree with you, it is good to meet a fellow Pseudo-Intellectual. I say Pseudo because since I constantly make fun of Over Educated Liberal Eggheads I would rather not claim the title of intellectual.

I am somewhat of a book reader snob. My older daughter is a big reader, she likes different books than me, and we argue over who has read the more difficult books, and the greater quantity of them. Since she could not get through War and Peace and I did, I claim victory.

Sorry for getting off topic. " Technically the motivation of the Democrats can't be simply a vendetta because of the bipartisan nature of Trumps policies "

I believe you must differentiate the various groups within the Democratic Party Coalition. All political parties are coalitions of interest groups. The leaders and intellectuals in the party are motivated by the desire to get power back, which is always the most important part. They have so ginned up the emotion of the foot soldiers, that yes, to the lower level Democrats, Trump really is the Great White Whale who at all costs must be harpooned.

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Sep 23, 2019 20:25:15   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
son of witless wrote:
As much as I disagree with you, it is good to meet a fellow Pseudo-Intellectual. I say Pseudo because since I constantly make fun of Over Educated Liberal Eggheads I would rather not claim the title of intellectual.

I am somewhat of a book reader snob. My older daughter is a big reader, she likes different books than me, and we argue over who has read the more difficult books, and the greater quantity of them. Since she could not get through War and Peace and I did, I claim victory.

Sorry for getting off topic. " Technically the motivation of the Democrats can't be simply a vendetta because of the bipartisan nature of Trumps policies "

I believe you must differentiate the various groups within the Democratic Party Coalition. All political parties are coalitions of interest groups. The leaders and intellectuals in the party are motivated by the desire to get power back, which is always the most important part. They have so ginned up the emotion of the foot soldiers, that yes, to the lower level Democrats, Trump really is the Great White Whale who at all costs must be harpooned.
As much as I disagree with you, it is good to meet... (show quote)


I was thinking Trump was Moby Dick losing a leg made Moby snap what was it with Trump maybe there's a clue in "War and Peace" how about the doctor who got captured by the anarchists and they said to the doctor you got to come with us to save our wounded comrades, the doctor replied, but I can't go with you, I've got my wife to think about in fact I've got 2, now we don't know what Trump's got on the side but the anarchists are close to having him join their "completely".

Maybe it's all for the better US politics is extremely tight cast, the news isn't reported except as benchmark propositions with inferences of prover atrioventricular disorder which is caused by an injury, loss of a leg will do it every time or a GF, or maybe this could be a manifestation of neuromuscular disease but all news commentators can't be suffering from the same diabolical complex, it sure is contagious but can't coming from just Trump, surely there must be something more of a fiendish ground swell of slinky silliness manifesting itself besides what Trump can provide.


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Sep 23, 2019 20:42:20   #
son of witless
 
RT friend wrote:
I was thinking Trump was Moby Dick losing a leg made Moby snap what was it with Trump maybe there's a clue in "War and Peace" how about the doctor who got captured by the the anarchists and they said to the doctor to got to come with us to save our wonder comrades, the doctor replied but I can't go with you I've got my wife to think about in fact I've got 2, now we don't know what Trump's got on the side but the anarchists are close to having him join their team.

But maybe it's all for the better US politics is extremely tight cast, the news isn't reported except as benchmark propositions with inferences of prover atrioventricular disorder which is caused by an injury or maybe could be a manifestation of neuromuscular disease but all news commentators can't be suffering from the same diabolical complex, it sure is contagious but not coming just fromTrump, surely there must be something more of a fiendish ground swell of slinky sillyness manifesting itself besides what Trump can provide.

I was thinking Trump was Moby Dick losing a leg ma... (show quote)


Wow you sure know a lot of them big words, doncha ? But you have embarrassed me. I bragged about reading War and Peace, but I must admit my memory isn't good on the part you reference about Anarchists and the Doctor.

I read the book because I had read an obscure reference to General Kutuzov, who was the real hero in the defeat of Napoleon, and I had shamefully never heard of him. Him I remember a little about.

His great quote was “The strongest of all warriors are these two — Time and Patience.”

Everyone thought he was wrong. Everyone thought he was a washed up old man. Everyone was wrong.

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Sep 23, 2019 22:11:55   #
debeda
 
RT friend wrote:
I was thinking Trump was Moby Dick losing a leg made Moby snap what was it with Trump maybe there's a clue in "War and Peace" how about the doctor who got captured by the anarchists and they said to the doctor you got to come with us to save our wounded comrades, the doctor replied, but I can't go with you, I've got my wife to think about in fact I've got 2, now we don't know what Trump's got on the side but the anarchists are close to having him join their "completely".

Maybe it's all for the better US politics is extremely tight cast, the news isn't reported except as benchmark propositions with inferences of prover atrioventricular disorder which is caused by an injury, loss of a leg will do it every time or a GF, or maybe this could be a manifestation of neuromuscular disease but all news commentators can't be suffering from the same diabolical complex, it sure is contagious but can't coming from just Trump, surely there must be something more of a fiendish ground swell of slinky silliness manifesting itself besides what Trump can provide.

I was thinking Trump was Moby Dick losing a leg ma... (show quote)


Moby Dick was the WHALE. He ATE Captain Ahab's leg. Captain Ahab was the loonie toon.

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