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Sep 18, 2019 14:39:40   #
Cuda2020
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
This so-called investigation is a joke and the head clown, Jerry "Fats" Nadler keeps trying to make something out of nothing. It sure is raising the hackles of the Democrats.


Real "patriots" want what's best for the country, not the party, and if something is corrupt, cut it out. That is done bt the t***h backed up by facts, not silence and gag orders.

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Sep 18, 2019 14:42:42   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Whaddya talkin' about?!! After 2.5 years of a complete, thorough, unimpeded, investigation by the Democrats, by a rabid bunch of partisan Democrat 'investigators', which turned up not a scintilla of evidence, the Dems simply decided to rename the object of the investigation from 'Russian collusion', to 'obstruction' under the guise not of the Mueller investigation, but under the Jerry Nadler, 'preimpeachment investigation. But the object is exactly the same. Cripple Trump. But even if Nadler were 100% successful in getting impeachment passed through his committee, which is doubtful, it has zero chance of getting passed in the senate. As in zip, nil, nada!
So for once the WH finally said 'enough!' And invoked executive privilege.
Executive privilege extends to ALL private conversations with the president. Regardless of who that person is. And the president invoked it regarding conversations with Lewandowski. BFD! He has every right to do so.
You dems have a losing agenda for 2020. Resist, obstruct, Trump bad.
Move on, and address issues people really care about, or prepare to suffer massive defeats at the polls in 2020.
MAGA! KAG! 2020!
Whaddya talkin' about?!! After 2.5 years of a comp... (show quote)



Don't you get tired of dealing with inane comments like we have seen in this thread.

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Sep 18, 2019 14:45:40   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Ah more ol Obama deflection, let's stick to the topic and current events.


Aw come on fish boi, the halfrican did more in a week with his muslim ass kissing to destroy our wonderful country than Carter, LBJ and Slick Willie did combined. You libtoids own obama, deal with it~

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Sep 18, 2019 15:10:31   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
I know, the new right has no moral compass.
You don't know dick s**t, baby.

Donald Trump is an American citizen and like all American citizens he has the constitutional and legal right to defend himself against any and all accusations and allegations by wh**ever legal means necessary.

Congressional Subpoena Power and Executive Privilege: The Coming Showdown Between the Branches

The following is an overview of congressional requests for executive branch information and executive privilege assertions in response; it does not cover, for example, requests by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the law and dynamics of which are quite different. Lawfare has published a number of articles that address the issue of executive privilege generally. In June of 2017, John Bies offered a primer on the subject. David Kris has written about disclosures to Congress in the context of the special counsel investigation. My colleague Susan Hennessey discussed the nature of congressional investigative authority as well as investigative tools and their enforcement. In addition, the National Constitution Center offers a concise history of presidents’ use of executive privilege. Finally, Mark Rozell’s book entitled, “Executive Privilege” offers a deep dive that is nonetheless easy to read.

If history is any guide, the question of what executive branch documents and testimony the 116th Congress will receive access to will likely not be decided by a court. Disputes between Congress and the president over the scope of executive privilege are better understood as political battles with legal underpinnings—not as matters of pure law. As such, debates over the scope of executive privilege are likely to play out in the context of negotiations between House Democrats and the Trump administration, with each side making political calculations about what fights are worth having, when it makes sense to fight and when it makes sense to cooperate.

In the long run, that’s probably a good thing—shifting resolution of interbranch privilege disputes to the courts undermines Congress’s ability to maintain its place as a coequal branch in the constitutional scheme. In the short term, however, the reality is that those eager for House Democrats to obtain information relevant to their oversight efforts in an orderly, timely and clear-cut way are likely to feel some frustration over the next two years. The White House holds a lot of cards in this game.

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Sep 18, 2019 15:18:05   #
Rose42
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Ah more ol Obama deflection, let's stick to the topic and current events.


In other words, democrat corruption was just fine and only republican corruption is bad. The usual double standards.

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Sep 18, 2019 15:18:25   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Aw come on fish boi, the halfrican did more in a week with his muslim ass kissing to destroy our wonderful country than Carter, LBJ and Slick Willie did combined. You libtoids own obama, deal with it~



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Sep 18, 2019 15:22:33   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Real "patriots" want what's best for the country, not the party, and if something is corrupt, cut it out. That is done bt the t***h backed up by facts, not silence and gag orders.


Dumbocrats ALWAYS put party over country.

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Sep 18, 2019 18:25:59   #
Cuda2020
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Aw come on fish boi, the halfrican did more in a week with his muslim ass kissing to destroy our wonderful country than Carter, LBJ and Slick Willie did combined. You libtoids own obama, deal with it~


Specifics, based on facts, not opinionated right-wing editorials.

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Sep 18, 2019 18:29:15   #
Cuda2020
 
Rose42 wrote:
In other words, democrat corruption was just fine and only republican corruption is bad. The usual double standards.


Just avoiding the typical right-wing diversion away from the topic. That's your assumption ad words, not mine. You do that a lot.

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Sep 18, 2019 18:32:10   #
Cuda2020
 
amadjuster wrote:
Dumbocrats ALWAYS put party over country.


yeah, wh**ever...

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Sep 18, 2019 20:54:00   #
woodguru
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
The left does not wan t***h. They just want a way to get Trump and were made to look like the partisan, h**e filled, abusers of power they are.


How can you say something this ignorant?
The left does want the t***h, they are asking for documents and hearings under oath to talk with people who have first hand knowledge of events. It is not the left refusing to cooperate with hearings or seeing the t***h. If the t***h clears Trump he and the DOJ should be fully cooperating, the stupidity of the idea that Trump and the DOJ are obstructing anything but clear evidence that proves wrong doing is mind numbing. Refusing to fully disclose anything congress wants is obstruction, refusing to disclose things that are about Trump is criminal and impeachable. Failing to impeach for proven crimes would be failing to fulfill the senate's oath to protect the constitution.

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Sep 18, 2019 20:56:14   #
woodguru
 
Rose42 wrote:
In other words, democrat corruption was just fine and only republican corruption is bad. The usual double standards.


The GOP took a continuous whack at Obama's administration and came up empty after full cooperation...

this admin refuses to cooperate because of what the documents and evidence proves, big difference.

This new whistle blower obstruction is a huge obstruction, the complaint goes right from the IG to congress.

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Sep 19, 2019 00:15:40   #
Cuda2020
 
Rose42 wrote:
In other words, democrat corruption was just fine and only republican corruption is bad. The usual double standards.


No double standard at all, I know what you meant, you say the same thing every day, like I said stick to present-day issues/topic, if you can. Look to yourself for your own double standard rather than pointing fingers all the time. i could see it if you were neutral, but you are not but this fact may escape you.

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Sep 19, 2019 00:22:41   #
Cuda2020
 
woodguru wrote:
The GOP took a continuous whack at Obama's administration and came up empty after full cooperation...

this admin refuses to cooperate because of what the documents and evidence proves, big difference.

This new whistle blower obstruction is a huge obstruction, the complaint goes right from the IG to congress.



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Sep 19, 2019 00:31:53   #
Cuda2020
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You don't know dick s**t, baby.

Donald Trump is an American citizen and like all American citizens he has the constitutional and legal right to defend himself against any and all accusations and allegations by wh**ever legal means necessary.

Congressional Subpoena Power and Executive Privilege: The Coming Showdown Between the Branches

The following is an overview of congressional requests for executive branch information and executive privilege assertions in response; it does not cover, for example, requests by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the law and dynamics of which are quite different. Lawfare has published a number of articles that address the issue of executive privilege generally. In June of 2017, John Bies offered a primer on the subject. David Kris has written about disclosures to Congress in the context of the special counsel investigation. My colleague Susan Hennessey discussed the nature of congressional investigative authority as well as investigative tools and their enforcement. In addition, the National Constitution Center offers a concise history of presidents’ use of executive privilege. Finally, Mark Rozell’s book entitled, “Executive Privilege” offers a deep dive that is nonetheless easy to read.

If history is any guide, the question of what executive branch documents and testimony the 116th Congress will receive access to will likely not be decided by a court. Disputes between Congress and the president over the scope of executive privilege are better understood as political battles with legal underpinnings—not as matters of pure law. As such, debates over the scope of executive privilege are likely to play out in the context of negotiations between House Democrats and the Trump administration, with each side making political calculations about what fights are worth having, when it makes sense to fight and when it makes sense to cooperate.

In the long run, that’s probably a good thing—shifting resolution of interbranch privilege disputes to the courts undermines Congress’s ability to maintain its place as a coequal branch in the constitutional scheme. In the short term, however, the reality is that those eager for House Democrats to obtain information relevant to their oversight efforts in an orderly, timely and clear-cut way are likely to feel some frustration over the next two years. The White House holds a lot of cards in this game.
You don't know dick s**t, baby. br br Donald Tru... (show quote)


Oo, got you panties in a bunch here eh. It's not what I'm saying, seeing this I think your not pissed at me, it's more about what Trump does and you getting tired of defending his inappropriate to criminal actions.

You put up all that jargin but what it still comes down to is Trump covering up his illicit actions, he's the Teflonman superhero of the right. Your content with people shutting up and not knowing the t***h.

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