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Sep 13, 2019 14:41:06   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
It is clear that we have to stop allowing anymore republicans of this horrible nature..

Be very sure to v**e come Nov 2020...

This is from a Minister of unknown faith and an instructor at an undisclosed college.

Nothing more I can tell you..

In response to a subject a mutual friend referred to him..




On a scale from 1–10

Reagan: 4. Sure he destroyed the middle class, and there was the whole Iran-Contra ordeal that would have been worthy of impeachment if Oliver North hadn’t lied to protect him. But at least he knew Russia was not trustworthy. He wasn’t a great President, but he played one on TV.

Bush Sr.: 5. Yes, the failing economy was the key reason he lost re-e******n, but mostly that was Reagan’s fault. He may not have accomplished much, but at least he stayed out of the way. He should have gone ahead and removed Hussein following Desert Storm when he would have had the support of Iraqis and their neighbors. Failing to do so cemented his reputation as a wimp.

Bush Jr.: 2. Yes he allowed the worst ever terrorist attack on American soil, and yes he responded by attacking the wrong country—twice. Yes, his economic policies almost led to a Depression. He spent a third of his term on vacation, came to power by opposing counting v**es, lied to congress, instated torture, curbed the Bill of Rights. He probably should have been charged with war crimes. And he should have scored a 1, except there would have been no place to go down. And sadly, we have to go down.

Trump: 1. Only because I said 1–10. If negative numbers were allowed we’d be digging a hole with no bottom. He conspired with a hostile foreign power to attack our e******n. He spent his entire campaign making r****t and misogynistic attacks, and offered to pay legal fees if his supporters would assault protestors. Since taking office he has backed out of agreements that protect our air and water, reneged on treaties with other countries, allowed North Korea and Iran to expand their nuclear programs unchecked, has cowed to Russia and has restarted the US-Soviet arms race, has flatlined a healthy economy, has spent almost 300 years worth of P**********l salary on more than 200 golfing trips—much of which went back into his own pockets, wasted money on an i***tic parade, is diverting money from military families and national defense to build a wall that will never be completed, obstructed the investigation into his corrupt dealings with Russia, has profiteered off of the Presidency, has boasted that he would accept illegal help from hostile governments again to get re-elected if given the opportunity, has told over 12,000 verifiable public lies, has suggested he should do away with e******ns and stay in office for life. And he is setting records for lowest approval ratings, highest disapproval ratings, most turnover in an administration, and most indictments in an administration. Sadly, I know I’m leaving things out.

On a side note, I can’t imagine with the state of the Republican Party now that we’ll ever see a Republican President score above a 5 again. I’m hoping that the next one will at least be better than the last two, but I’m not optimistic they’ll be as good as even Reagan or Bush. My optimism ends at hoping somewhere out there they have a future candidate who can score a respectable 3.

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Sep 13, 2019 14:46:23   #
Liberty Tree
 
permafrost wrote:
It is clear that we have to stop allowing anymore republicans of this horrible nature..

Be very sure to v**e come Nov 2020...

This is from a Minister of unknown faith and an instructor at an undisclosed college.

Nothing more I can tell you..

In response to a subject a mutual friend referred to him..




On a scale from 1–10

Reagan: 4. Sure he destroyed the middle class, and there was the whole Iran-Contra ordeal that would have been worthy of impeachment if Oliver North hadn’t lied to protect him. But at least he knew Russia was not trustworthy. He wasn’t a great President, but he played one on TV.

Bush Sr.: 5. Yes, the failing economy was the key reason he lost re-e******n, but mostly that was Reagan’s fault. He may not have accomplished much, but at least he stayed out of the way. He should have gone ahead and removed Hussein following Desert Storm when he would have had the support of Iraqis and their neighbors. Failing to do so cemented his reputation as a wimp.

Bush Jr.: 2. Yes he allowed the worst ever terrorist attack on American soil, and yes he responded by attacking the wrong country—twice. Yes, his economic policies almost led to a Depression. He spent a third of his term on vacation, came to power by opposing counting v**es, lied to congress, instated torture, curbed the Bill of Rights. He probably should have been charged with war crimes. And he should have scored a 1, except there would have been no place to go down. And sadly, we have to go down.

Trump: 1. Only because I said 1–10. If negative numbers were allowed we’d be digging a hole with no bottom. He conspired with a hostile foreign power to attack our e******n. He spent his entire campaign making r****t and misogynistic attacks, and offered to pay legal fees if his supporters would assault protestors. Since taking office he has backed out of agreements that protect our air and water, reneged on treaties with other countries, allowed North Korea and Iran to expand their nuclear programs unchecked, has cowed to Russia and has restarted the US-Soviet arms race, has flatlined a healthy economy, has spent almost 300 years worth of P**********l salary on more than 200 golfing trips—much of which went back into his own pockets, wasted money on an i***tic parade, is diverting money from military families and national defense to build a wall that will never be completed, obstructed the investigation into his corrupt dealings with Russia, has profiteered off of the Presidency, has boasted that he would accept illegal help from hostile governments again to get re-elected if given the opportunity, has told over 12,000 verifiable public lies, has suggested he should do away with e******ns and stay in office for life. And he is setting records for lowest approval ratings, highest disapproval ratings, most turnover in an administration, and most indictments in an administration. Sadly, I know I’m leaving things out.

On a side note, I can’t imagine with the state of the Republican Party now that we’ll ever see a Republican President score above a 5 again. I’m hoping that the next one will at least be better than the last two, but I’m not optimistic they’ll be as good as even Reagan or Bush. My optimism ends at hoping somewhere out there they have a future candidate who can score a respectable 3.
It is clear that we have to stop allowing anymore ... (show quote)


Let us rate the posters on OPP. You would be under the hole with no bottom.

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Sep 13, 2019 14:55:05   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Let us rate the posters on OPP. You would be under the hole with no bottom.




Can not abide the t***h can you...

an indicator of orange job skills
an indicator of orange job skills...

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Sep 13, 2019 15:22:19   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
permafrost wrote:
Can not abide the t***h can you...


Still wonder why you keep falling in?

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Sep 13, 2019 15:25:18   #
Liberty Tree
 
permafrost wrote:
Can not abide the t***h can you...


You have no t***h, just blind mind numbing h**e.

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Sep 13, 2019 15:46:00   #
ImLogicallyRight
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Let us rate the posters on OPP. You would be under the hole with no bottom.


He would have so much company, Kev, AFi, woody lonesome one, etc.

Imagine how low the lat four democrats are.

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Sep 13, 2019 15:51:09   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
NYT: The Reagan Boom - Greatest Ever

Almost everyone knows that the greatest depression the U.S. ever had was in the 1930's. It was known as the Great Depression, and its infamy merits a separate section in economics textbooks. But what was its counterpart? When did our greatest economic expansion occur?

We just had it. And it is still expanding, setting new records with each passing month.

We don't know whether historians will call it the Great Expansion of the 1980's or Reagan's Great Expansion, but we do know from official economic statistics that the seven year period from 1982 to 1989 was the greatest, consistent burst of economic activity ever seen in the U.S. In fact, it was the greatest economic expansion the world has ever seen - in any country, at any time.

The two key measures that mark a depression or expansion are jobs and production. Let's look at the records that were set. Creation of jobs. From November 1982, when President Ronald Reagan's new economic program was beginning to take effect, to November 1989, 18.7 million new jobs were created. It was a world record: Never before had so many jobs been created during a comparable time period. The new jobs covered the entire spectrum of work, and more than half of them paid more than $20,000 a year. As total employment grew to 119.5 million, the rate of unemployment fell to slightly over 5 percent, the lowest level in 15 years. Creation of wealth.

The amount of wealth produced during this seven year period was stupendous - some $30 trillion worth of goods and services. Again, it was a world record. Never before had so much wealth been produced during a comparable period. According to a recent study, net asset values - including stocks, bonds and real estate - went up by more than $5 trillion between 1982 and 1989, an increase of roughly 50 percent.

There are other important measures. Steady economic growth. As we begin the decade of the 1990's, we are in our 86th straight month of economic growth - a new record for peacetime, five months longer than the wartime growth of World War II and only 23 months short of the wartime record set during the Vietnam War in the 1960's. Most experts now predict that it will last right through 1990, and perhaps beyond.

Income tax rates, interest rates and inflation.

Under President Reagan, top personal income tax rates were lowered dramatically, from 70 percent to 28 percent. This policy change was the prime force behind the record breaking economic expansion. Interest rates and inflation also fell sharply and, so far, have stayed comfortably low - a further indication of the power and pervasiveness of Mr. Reagan's economic policies. The stock market. Perhaps the key indicator of an economy's booms and busts is the stock market, the bottom line economic report card. And here the record has been striking. During the period from 1970 to 1982, the stock market barely moved. The Standard & Poor's index of 500 stocks inched up about 35 percent during that entire period. But starting in late 1982, just as Reaganomics began to work, the stock market took off like a giant skyrocket. Since then, the Standard & Poor's index has soared, reaching a record high of 360, almost triple what it was in 1982.

There were other consequences of the expansion. Annual Federal spending on public housing and welfare, and on Social Security, Medicare and health all increased by billions of dollars. The poverty rate has fallen steadily since 1983.

When you add up the record of the Reagan years, and the first year of President Bush - during which he has faithfully continued Mr. Reagan's economic policies - the conclusion is clear, inescapable and stunning. We have just witnessed America's Great Expansion.

The Reagan economic expansion was not perfect and we will never have one that is. The Federal budget deficits were too high and still are, too many Federal regulations lay unreformed and the trade deficit is worrisome.

In fact, the Reagan expansion may not have been the best economic expansion in history, for every economic expansion must be judged by many criteria. But if we look at the sheer size and immensity of it, at its scope and power, then it cannot be denied that it was the greatest.

The full impact of the powerful economic recovery that President Reagan launched during the 1980s is still unfolding.

Mr. Reagan's expansion provided the financial resources to allow the U.S. to build up the combat capability of its defense forces and to begin blazing the new trail for a protective missile system. This, in turn, convinced the Soviet rulers they could never defeat the U.S., and today the Soviet Union and the U.S. are busily engaged in nuclear disarmament as peace breaks out in country after country throughout the world.

Equally important, it proved beyond doubt to all (except perhaps for a handful of left-wing faculty members in our best universities) that capitalism is superior to Socialism and C*******m. Our economy is the guiding beacon for all those countries that are ripping apart the ruthless collectivist regimes that ruined the lives of their people for so long.

One thing the Marxists got right: Economics is a powerful determining factor of history. But Marxists never dreamed it would be the economics of Ronald Reagan and all those capitalists that would prevail in the end.

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Sep 13, 2019 15:58:05   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
You have no t***h, just blind mind numbing h**e.


Only my left foot is numb....

H**e is owned by the orange cult..

relax, soon you can shoot these guys...
relax, soon you can shoot these guys......

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Sep 13, 2019 16:03:51   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
NYT: The Reagan Boom - Greatest Ever

Almost everyone knows that the greatest depression the U.S. ever had was in the 1930's. It was known as the Great Depression, and its infamy merits a separate section in economics textbooks. But what was its counterpart? When did our greatest economic expansion occur?

We just had it. And it is still expanding, setting new records with each passing month.

We don't know whether historians will call it the Great Expansion of the 1980's or Reagan's Great Expansion, but we do know from official economic statistics that the seven year period from 1982 to 1989 was the greatest, consistent burst of economic activity ever seen in the U.S. In fact, it was the greatest economic expansion the world has ever seen - in any country, at any time.

The two key measures that mark a depression or expansion are jobs and production. Let's look at the records that were set. Creation of jobs. From November 1982, when President Ronald Reagan's new economic program was beginning to take effect, to November 1989, 18.7 million new jobs were created. It was a world record: Never before had so many jobs been created during a comparable time period. The new jobs covered the entire spectrum of work, and more than half of them paid more than $20,000 a year. As total employment grew to 119.5 million, the rate of unemployment fell to slightly over 5 percent, the lowest level in 15 years. Creation of wealth.

The amount of wealth produced during this seven year period was stupendous - some $30 trillion worth of goods and services. Again, it was a world record. Never before had so much wealth been produced during a comparable period. According to a recent study, net asset values - including stocks, bonds and real estate - went up by more than $5 trillion between 1982 and 1989, an increase of roughly 50 percent.

There are other important measures. Steady economic growth. As we begin the decade of the 1990's, we are in our 86th straight month of economic growth - a new record for peacetime, five months longer than the wartime growth of World War II and only 23 months short of the wartime record set during the Vietnam War in the 1960's. Most experts now predict that it will last right through 1990, and perhaps beyond.

Income tax rates, interest rates and inflation.

Under President Reagan, top personal income tax rates were lowered dramatically, from 70 percent to 28 percent. This policy change was the prime force behind the record breaking economic expansion. Interest rates and inflation also fell sharply and, so far, have stayed comfortably low - a further indication of the power and pervasiveness of Mr. Reagan's economic policies. The stock market. Perhaps the key indicator of an economy's booms and busts is the stock market, the bottom line economic report card. And here the record has been striking. During the period from 1970 to 1982, the stock market barely moved. The Standard & Poor's index of 500 stocks inched up about 35 percent during that entire period. But starting in late 1982, just as Reaganomics began to work, the stock market took off like a giant skyrocket. Since then, the Standard & Poor's index has soared, reaching a record high of 360, almost triple what it was in 1982.

There were other consequences of the expansion. Annual Federal spending on public housing and welfare, and on Social Security, Medicare and health all increased by billions of dollars. The poverty rate has fallen steadily since 1983.

When you add up the record of the Reagan years, and the first year of President Bush - during which he has faithfully continued Mr. Reagan's economic policies - the conclusion is clear, inescapable and stunning. We have just witnessed America's Great Expansion.

The Reagan economic expansion was not perfect and we will never have one that is. The Federal budget deficits were too high and still are, too many Federal regulations lay unreformed and the trade deficit is worrisome.

In fact, the Reagan expansion may not have been the best economic expansion in history, for every economic expansion must be judged by many criteria. But if we look at the sheer size and immensity of it, at its scope and power, then it cannot be denied that it was the greatest.

The full impact of the powerful economic recovery that President Reagan launched during the 1980s is still unfolding.

Mr. Reagan's expansion provided the financial resources to allow the U.S. to build up the combat capability of its defense forces and to begin blazing the new trail for a protective missile system. This, in turn, convinced the Soviet rulers they could never defeat the U.S., and today the Soviet Union and the U.S. are busily engaged in nuclear disarmament as peace breaks out in country after country throughout the world.

Equally important, it proved beyond doubt to all (except perhaps for a handful of left-wing faculty members in our best universities) that capitalism is superior to Socialism and C*******m. Our economy is the guiding beacon for all those countries that are ripping apart the ruthless collectivist regimes that ruined the lives of their people for so long.

One thing the Marxists got right: Economics is a powerful determining factor of history. But Marxists never dreamed it would be the economics of Ronald Reagan and all those capitalists that would prevail in the end.
b NYT: The Reagan Boom - Greatest Ever /b br br... (show quote)



a hooray article we all have seen or heard..

But a posting from the 90s which is no longer apt is hardly a timely note on our present problems..

we can go back and forth for a week or two but why bother..

We need a return to ethics and leadership at a minimum..

How to get that is only a guess..

But it seems sure that no Republican will be the cavalry..

And as nothing good has come from the orange infestation, we will onl y look elsewhere..



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Sep 13, 2019 16:10:13   #
Liberty Tree
 
permafrost wrote:
Only my left foot is numb....

H**e is owned by the orange cult..


The h**e the left has for Trump is unparralled in American history.

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Sep 13, 2019 17:08:22   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
The h**e the left has for Trump is unparralled in American history.



That is because we have never had such an inept corrupt POS staining our white house before..

The most foul head of state in the world..

self serving, American hating, stealing, lying, cowardly, gutter slug to ever humiliate our nation.. or any other nation for that matter..



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Sep 13, 2019 17:09:41   #
Liberty Tree
 
permafrost wrote:
That is because we have never had such an inept corrupt POS staining our white house before..

The most foul head of state in the world..

self serving, American hating, stealing, lying, cowardly, gutter slug to ever humiliate our nation.. or any other nation for that matter..


You just proved my point. No reason, just blind h**e.

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Sep 13, 2019 17:23:10   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
You just proved my point. No reason, just blind h**e.


You have no point, only wishful thinking and night dreams..

after the unending insulting of President Obama, noting noted about the true failure of the orange thing called trump can ever approach the shameful republican actions for those 8 years plus..

And you have the stupidity to claim no hate.. what a fool..
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Sep 13, 2019 17:33:24   #
Liberty Tree
 
permafrost wrote:
You have no point, only wishful thinking and night dreams..

after the unending insulting of President Obama, noting noted about the true failure of the orange thing called trump can ever approach the shameful republican actions for those 8 years plus..


I did not state no h**e, I just said you have taken it to sleep knew level. As far as being a fool you have made it an art form in your life.

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Sep 13, 2019 17:57:25   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
I did not state no h**e, I just said you have taken it to sleep knew level. As far as being a fool you have made it an art form in your life.


That may be in the eye of the beholder..

I feel quite fine about my life and am comfortable and b***hing about things that are minor except for the direction of politics in our country..

But what the heck... think as you will.

No cure for you.. you are what you are..

live on, work hard, do well..

Have a good day..

Proof we could all get along..
Proof we could all get along.....

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