mseps699

I don't design or build anything for military anymore. But I do somewhat stay in contact with a few people. I'm just curious if anyone else is fearing WW3 or a missile crisis. And what your thoughts are.

We currently are messing with Russia. Holding drills with S.Korea. Vietnam is now in news again. Syria is a mess. N.Korea working on nukes, Iran still developing theirs.Russia is done with US dollar. Half our fleet is in Pacific.

I don't get the true news like I use to. Russia and China are joined at hip. This is messed up. Something big is brewing. I read many, If not all, posts on here. North Korea and Russia personally scare me.

I do know we are on high alert. But that's all I know. I don't believe anything in the news right now. We are in a smoke screen. A big one. One like I have never seen. I dealt with all branches of the military for 25 years. And right now, I'm not hearing a word. First time in 25 years!

It's not about oil anymore. It's about food and our energy grid due to population.

Any comments?

Patty

Yes I think Obama was quite clear at West Point when he said that he would do anything to stop any country that's actions were outside the US interests.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/grand-geopolitical-project-russias-gazprom-signs-agreement-to-abandon-the-dollar/5386045

http://thebricspost.com/russia-china-to-jointly-tackle-threats/#.U5Rl1LlOXIU

Bruce Kennedy Loc: Kansas

I just have one question. Is Conspiracy Paranoia contagious? Can it be spread from one infected mind to, say, a stable rational mind, or is it genetic?

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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What's the matter? Are you one of those people who can see a cat, feel the cat, hear the cat meow, and wonder why that donkey doesn't bray? That is because you cannot fathom logical and critical thinking. Many people on earth would instantly deduce that animal I mentioned was a cat. You, OTOH, would think it was a donkey. You would call the people who called it a cat "conspiricists" because you cannot understand that it is a cat.

It is the fools who will suffer the most when disaster does hit, and it will hit - we simply don't know when, and we don't know if our President will cause the disaster or if a foreign country will cause the disaster, but disaster is definitely where we are headed.

Bruce Kennedy Loc: Kansas

I think you have the analogy wrong. It is you and the "Conspiracy theorists" that would think there was a donkey lurking, in the shadows. Conspiracy paranoia is an insidious disease, like many other mental disorders, the victim can not tell he suffers from it.

Patty

Because everyone know Cass Sunstein has our best interests at heart he has decided that these are the 5 steps that need to be taken immediately.
Government might ban conspiracy theorizing.
2.Government might impose some kind of tax, financial or otherwise, on those who disseminate such theories.
3.Government might itself engage in counter-speech, marshaling arguments to discredit conspiracy theories.
4.Government might formally hire credible private parties to engage in counter-speech.
5.Government might engage in informal communication with such parties, encouraging
Isnt he the greatest watching out for us like that?
With regard to conspiracy theories, there is a long history of dangerous thought entering the minds of deluded citizens. There were people who long doubted the official version of the Gulf of Tonkin incident, or those who believed that the government's minions were capable of thinking up other 'false f**g' activities such as 'Operation Northwoods', or the poor confused souls who argued that Iraq's 'weapons of mass destruction' were a trumped-up pretext for war based on thoroughly politicized intelligence, or the mean-spirited t*****rs who charged that the US military k**led a Reuter journalist and his helpers in Iraq and then covered it up, or the completely delusional paranoiacs who asserted for many years that the NSA was literally recording everything. Next they're going to say that the official version of the WTC attack lacks credibility, in spite of its enshrinement as unassailable t***h following the government's decision to investigate itself!

We incidentally even know of certain people who routinely assert that the scientific and utterly wertfrei monetary policy enacted by well-meaning central banks is harmful and favors certain groups in society over others! Surely such highly dangerous attempts to foment popular dissent need to be properly suppressed before they irreparably disturb the social harmony of the Collective.

Also, consider for a moment the honest and well-intentioned politicians and bureaucrats who advanced the schemes listed above in the national interest. It was only their self-less concern for our well-being that drove them to make a tiny mistake here or there. By accusing them of nefarious motives, the conspiracy theorists have undoubtedly deeply hurt their feelings. It is an outrage crying out for rectification.
So Bruce are one of these counter speech Marshals or are you just gullible?

NanaSue57 Loc: Georgia

I totally agree something is brewing. Can't prove something that you feel in your gut, but something is coming, and fast. Obama has left us at the weakest in our history. He's left us wide open for anything.... It concerns me that you haven't heard anything lately, after 25 years of always getting info.
Yup. I believe you are right. God helps us.

straightUp Loc: California

I suspect the motives that drove wars like WW1 and WW2 don't exist as national interests anymore... I think globalization has taken these interests out of the national concern and put them into the global market which is so far the most advanced example of a one world government that we can actually see. In other words, there is nothing the Russians or anyone else could possibly get from us through a war, that isn't already for sale on the "free" global market.

When Bush said that we should spread democracy because democratic countries don't fight, he wasn't kidding. He was using sugary words like "democracy" to make it more appealing to moralists, but what he was really referring to is the GATT-driven global market, where countries comply (not always enthusiastically) with free-market terms that prevent them from protecting their own industries and resources ...and their own people for that matter.

The winners in this arrangement are of course the global "high rollers" with enough money to ante up and play the game and enough control over the national governments to insure that no government does anything to upset the game table. I think we *will* see increased violence stemming from resource-starved regions as people get more desperate for food and water, but these uprisings will either fester in economically unattractive regions, OR in regions of economic interest, the compliant governments will subdue the uprisings by wh**ever means it takes.

In rare cases where democracy actually carries the voice of the people, there may be a resurgence of national interest at the sovereign level and this is where foreign agencies like the CIA will step in to create situations that will lead to government instability, and the eventual "nation building" that's required to bring the country back to the one-world market.

So, we aren't going to see armed conflict between countries like China, Russia and the United States, because the oligarchs that own all three of these countries have an interest in maintaining the global "free" market as it is and each of these countries will be expected to quell the uprisings in their respective domains, while the other countries pretend to be concerned.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

One of the Major ways to keep people in control is around National Security. The public has to be sold on the idea that we need to come together to guard our Nation against an enemy that would seek our down fall.

The situation is in full force now around the World.

Various Countries are gearing up now to sell their people & put a threat in to other countries about there could be a war.
As time is passing & with the inter-net spreading information the general public is much more aware of the games being played by its leaders.

But do take to heart that Major Corporations & Banking Interest are starting to feel that it would be far better to have a stable world economy than to rely on the profits that would come from having Wars.

The thing for each of us to decide is how we need to adjust our self to the changes that will take place.

In many ways our lives will be better, but we need to find a way to limit things that would not be good for us as individuals.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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But his enemies can?

Kevyn

China will keep a lid on North Korea because it is in their interest to, if North Korea go's off the rails China will face an enormous and destabilizing refugee crisis that they want to avoid like the plague. Putin is stirring up nationalism for the sole purpose of taking eyes and media attention off the widespread and deep corruption of his government and to give him a popular excuse for cracking down on the press. His right wing propagandists tell the people that they can't believe the main stream media and then his supporters cheer when he go's after his detractors. The Russians and Chinease are mutualy distrustfull and have a marriage of convienance, on the currency thing the proportion of trade in non dollar instruments is a small small portion of trade and can be seen as nothing more than portfolio balancing by both nations. It as a marketing ploy however serves Gold venders well as a good way to boost profits through fear mongering.

straightUp Loc: California

After 25 years of getting information we aren't getting any now? I don't see that at all. Maybe we aren't getting the same level of fantasy that we've been fed for 25 years but that's because it's getting harder to hide the brutal t***h about our debts and our dwindling resources. Try searching for other news sources. The information is out there. Trust me.

I *do* agree that as a nation, we are weaker now than ever, but that's been 30 years in the making. Obama just happens to be the guy who got the job right when everyone started to catch on, but if they're actually putting the blame on Obama then they haven't caught on to the whole thing yet. Just enough to know they want to blame someone for something they don't understand.

Patty

"small small trade."

Bawahahaaaa.
The BRICS countries hold 40% of the world's population and make up 25% of the world's land mass and that's just between each other.
http://time.com/82225/china-world-biggest-economy/
You don't travel much do you Kevvie?

Blacksheep

Yeah, looks like the hit's gonna fit the shan. I don't know about nuke war, tho. Making a shambles of the planet doesn't fit in with anyone's scenario, except maybe Iran's. Russia and China want global dominance through economics, trade, and military pressure is just a tool to help achieve it, imho. But we will see, won't we?

straightUp Loc: California

Agreed. "National Security" is something of a magic phrase.


Hasn't it always been?


Not sure I agree with that. There is probably more misinformation on the internet these days than information and people need to get better at choosing their sources.


This is an interesting point and it's pretty much what I was saying in my first response to the OP. Major corporations and banking interests DO have an interest in the maintaining the status quo which happens to be what they call a "free" global market, which is working out well for their stake holders despite the pain and suffering it creates for people all around the world. Yes, a major war could really screw that up.

However, small regional wars that won't upset the global market are great for business if you're a corporation plugged into the military-industrial complex. This type of business also benefits from increases in law-enforcement and imprisonment, which is why were are starting to hear the term "prison-industrial complex". In contrast to a major world war, these regional conflicts are encouraged by the so-called "free" market as people push back against it for the sake of survival and governments are expected to quell the uprisings. A lot of things start to make sense once you realize that most governments in the world, including our own are controlled by the same people that own and control the corporations and banks. Not much has been done by this government over the past 25 years that isn't actually planned out by corporate interests.


Absolutely!


That doesn't sound like anything the oligarchs that control the governments, banks and corporations around the world would have much interest in. So you better prepare for some grass-roots work. Be prepared to be persecuted as a terrorist by the government. Be prepared to be framed by media misinformation as "enemies" and therefore opposed and demonized by their followers even if they are you're own countrymen.