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Sep 12, 2019 13:40:05   #
woodguru
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Spin! Spin! Spin!


Do you really have this hard a time staying current with the facts pertaining to the state of affairs with challenges to gerrymandering and supreme court decisions and what they mean?

The N Carolina GOP has been in a fight over blatantly gerrymandered districts for years. It was settled as far as court and appeals was concerned before the mid terms, but delays and further appeal shenanigans resulted in the case being taken up by the supreme court, which declined to weigh in saying it was up to the state. This left it to the ruling that the districts would be to a more neutral standard.

Now keep in mind the state is effectively an evenly split 50/50 e*****rate, so the question begs to be answered how can there be 10 seats out of 13 help by republicans? When a judge asked that the smart ass smug response was that they couldn't figure a way to make it 11.

Redistricting will be done by the 2020 e******n.

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Sep 12, 2019 13:42:00   #
woodguru
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Spin! Spin! Spin!


You believe rather than think

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Sep 12, 2019 14:24:46   #
emarine
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Democrats are giving their usual spin about how close it was. The t***h is the e******n started out with the Democrat ahead by a wide margin at one point. This was based on two factors. First, many believed the MSM about Republicans having committed v***r f***d. Second, the Democrat ran away from the Democrat Party's core principles and tried to present himself as a moderate. As time went on the people learned there was no fraud and that the Republicans had just done what the Democrats did in California and other places. Secondly, they learned what Democrats are. Thirdly, Trump rallied the v**ers. The end result was a GOP victory larger than the one that was last held and was redone. In all of this no one has mentioned the special e******n that was held in the NC third Congressional district where the GOP candidate totally buried the Democrat. What do we learn from this? The more people learn what Democrats are the less likely they will v**e for them.
Democrats are giving their usual spin about how cl... (show quote)




NC E******ns are the most crooked in the nation … the republican legislators are the far majority and c***t like there's no tomorrow … they just got nailed v****g down a veto on an official no v**e day for 911... most democrats went to honor the fallen while republicans in charge called for a v**e... how low can get... once they repair district lines the republicans are done in NC...

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Sep 12, 2019 16:58:25   #
Bcon
 
working class stiff wrote:
That is a lot of misinformation for one post.
It was proven in court that v***r f***d was committed in the 9th district. That's why a special e******n was held.
Your second point is gratuitous....meaningless. NC Democrats do not hide who they are.
Trump did rally the v**ers...fair point.
The major point is that both districts were drawn specifically to elect Republicans. Both State and Federal courts have ruled them un-Constitutional. SCOTUS washed their hands of the matter and once again the State Supreme Court has ruled the district maps un-Constitutional. The districts are now being re-drawn as per court order. It's no surprise to any NCarolinian that Republicans won both races. Under the old maps they were safe.

N. Caroline is a purple state....Democrats have no need to hide, and with fairer districts in the next e******n Republicans will find that out.

Fact is that we have a Democratic governor and Supreme Court....state wide e******ns without districts. More folks v**ed for Democrats in the last e******n than Republicans. I've put up the numbers before, but it makes no difference. You'll believe what you want to believe. This v**e wasn't the repudiation of Democrats at all.
That is a lot of misinformation for one post. br I... (show quote)


The only reason N.Carolina is a purple state is from the fact that the e******n of republicans left them black and blue. Make all the predictions you want about the future, they will end up the same as I am sure you predicted a democrat win now. Complete bulls**t.

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Sep 12, 2019 17:05:19   #
woodguru
 
Bcon wrote:
The only reason N.Carolina is a purple state is from the fact that the e******n of republicans left them black and blue. Make all the predictions you want about the future, they will end up the same as I am sure you predicted a democrat win now. Complete bulls**t.


perhaps you could start getting a grasp on reality if you were aware that the supreme court said it was up to the state to handle it's redistricting challenge. The GOP lost their years long fight to maintain the districts that give them 10 of 13 when the state has an evenly divided registered v**er base. The state will have new districts by 2020.

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Sep 12, 2019 17:43:29   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
I already did with my original post.


So, couldn't refute what I wrote and went back to your original misinformation. Sad.

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Sep 12, 2019 17:55:56   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Bcon wrote:
The only reason N.Carolina is a purple state is from the fact that the e******n of republicans left them black and blue. Make all the predictions you want about the future, they will end up the same as I am sure you predicted a democrat win now. Complete bulls**t.


Yeah...if wishes were horses. Why would I predict a Dem victory in that district? It hasn't v**ed Dem. since 1963.

You have no idea what you're ranting about....just throw stuff on the wall and pray something sticks, right?

Or in baseball parlance....swing and a miss.

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Sep 12, 2019 18:00:21   #
Bcon
 
working class stiff wrote:
Yeah...if wishes were horses. Why would I predict a Dem victory in that district? It hasn't v**ed Dem. since 1963.

You have no idea what you're ranting about....just throw stuff on the wall and pray something sticks, right?

Or in baseball parlance....swing and a miss.


Denial seems to be your long suit. In a previous post you seem to have said it will turn democrat.

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Sep 12, 2019 18:09:50   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Bcon wrote:
Denial seems to be your long suit. In a previous post you seem to have said it will turn democrat.


Where did I ever predict a Democratic victory in the 9th district?

Steeerike two.

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Sep 13, 2019 12:47:59   #
Pariahjf
 
For a district that was +12 GOP support in 2016, it's now down to +2 GOP for this special e******n. Looks like suburban Charlotte will turn the tide in 2020.

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Sep 13, 2019 13:03:43   #
woodguru
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
The t***h is the Democrats greatest enemy.


Democrats aren't the ones refusing to release documents that make Trump look bad, they aren't the ones obstructing efforts to get to the t***h that by the way it is democrats who are trying to get to.

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Sep 13, 2019 17:37:59   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
So meanwhile, this special e******n was about the republican actually hiring someone to lose or actually change absentee v**es in favor of the republican, before you say or even think this is f**e news know that the people involved except for the republican candidate are being charged with e******n f***d crimes.

The dem should ask for a recount on the general principle that the North Carolina e******n board is about the crookedest and most poorly managed in the country. My guess is that this would be a state that doesn't have the ability to recount.

Up until a dem won the governor's race the governor had a huge influence in appointing e******n board members, the GOP stripped the governor of those powers as soon as he was elected, along with hundreds of other appointment powers.

Poor abused North Carolina... and follow up on the little number they did in the house sneaking a veto override through with an absent dem v**e.
So meanwhile, this special e******n was about the ... (show quote)
Blah blah blah blah blah the North Carolina e******n board is about the crookedest and most poorly managed in the country blah blah blah blah blah. Pssst, woodguru...Broward County, FL demands an immediate apology!

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Sep 13, 2019 18:09:19   #
Big Kahuna
 
working class stiff wrote:
That is a lot of misinformation for one post.
It was proven in court that v***r f***d was committed in the 9th district. That's why a special e******n was held.
Your second point is gratuitous....meaningless. NC Democrats do not hide who they are.
Trump did rally the v**ers...fair point.
The major point is that both districts were drawn specifically to elect Republicans. Both State and Federal courts have ruled them un-Constitutional. SCOTUS washed their hands of the matter and once again the State Supreme Court has ruled the district maps un-Constitutional. The districts are now being re-drawn as per court order. It's no surprise to any NCarolinian that Republicans won both races. Under the old maps they were safe.

N. Caroline is a purple state....Democrats have no need to hide, and with fairer districts in the next e******n Republicans will find that out.

Fact is that we have a Democratic governor and Supreme Court....state wide e******ns without districts. More folks v**ed for Democrats in the last e******n than Republicans. I've put up the numbers before, but it makes no difference. You'll believe what you want to believe. This v**e wasn't the repudiation of Democrats at all.
That is a lot of misinformation for one post. br I... (show quote)


You seem to be ignoring the fact that the district was re-districted to favor the dem candidate, too. The dems, always trying to c***t as usual, and still losing!!

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Sep 13, 2019 22:26:26   #
Navigator
 
woodguru wrote:
So meanwhile, this special e******n was about the republican actually hiring someone to lose or actually change absentee v**es in favor of the republican, before you say or even think this is f**e news know that the people involved except for the republican candidate are being charged with e******n f***d crimes.

The dem should ask for a recount on the general principle that the North Carolina e******n board is about the crookedest and most poorly managed in the country. My guess is that this would be a state that doesn't have the ability to recount.

Up until a dem won the governor's race the governor had a huge influence in appointing e******n board members, the GOP stripped the governor of those powers as soon as he was elected, along with hundreds of other appointment powers.

Poor abused North Carolina... and follow up on the little number they did in the house sneaking a veto override through with an absent dem v**e.
So meanwhile, this special e******n was about the ... (show quote)


"So meanwhile, this special e******n was about the republican actually hiring someone to lose or actually change absentee v**es in favor of the republican, before you say or even think this is f**e news know that the people involved except for the republican candidate are being charged with e******n f***d crimes."
So, you admit that losing or actually changing absentee v**es in favor of the Democrats is what they did in California, eh? What they did in NC is EXACTLY the same thing as was done in CA; the only difference is that this stupid thing (harvesting absentee b****ts) is legal in CA and was not in NC.

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